Who should be listed on the IMM 5406?

[Techylady44]

Good Morning.
Firstly, I want to say what a blessing this site has been! It may take some time, but I'm slowly getting the hang of the process.

I'm confused about IMM 5406.
I'm sponsoring my girlfriend to Canada, from the US, and I'm a little stumped on this form.
She's the only one coming. Both parents are deceased, and she's very estranged from her sibblings, so there's no way they'd be coming with. She's not even sure if some of them are married or where they're living. They haven't spoken since early childhood.

Does she fill out the form to include everyone?

I apologize if this has been asked before, but there are SO many posts to go through!

Thank you so much!
I'm certain this won't be the last question I ask!

 

[taffy7]

It is just her on the form , she will however have to fill in the additional family information form.I wrote my fathers name and wrote address unknown.I wrote a letter on a separate piece of paper explaining that i have had no contact with my father since i was a child and have no idea where he is or where he lives . Just fill the form in as best you can .

when asking for info write imm 5406 and the name of the form .This will get you an answer quicker for some of us who are still a little unsure of the number on the form but up on the name lol

 

[Techylady44]

Taffy7:
Thank you so much! I will have her fill out the form as best she can.

I swear, by the time I'm done all her paperwork, getting stuff from Revenue Canada, FBI/Medical checks, I'll be an expert!

 

[Gumper]

I was told this form is essentially just for listing immediate family members who might potentially be sponsored one day as well. Obviously in your case the long lost siblings etc. are of no concern and unlikely to ever need sponsoring to Canada.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

She's the only one coming. Both parents are deceased, and she's very estranged from her sibblings, so there's no way they'd be coming with. She's not even sure if some of them are married or where they're living. They haven't spoken since early childhood.

As taffy7 said, just list their names and explain the situation on an additional sheet. My partner had to do that for most of his family, as he grew up in the foster system. He didn't know birthdates, current names, addresses or if they were even still alive. It won't be an issue for the application.

I was told this form is essentially just for listing immediate family members who might potentially be sponsored one day as well. Obviously in your case the long lost siblings etc. are of no concern and unlikely to ever need sponsoring to Canada.

They must still be listed. CIC does not distinguish between those siblings that may be sponsored and those that won't be.

 

[Techylady44]

Thank you so much for the reply.

I'm starting to get very nervous. I'm reading so many stories of how Border Security can make it difficult to come into Canada.

She's been visiting me in Manitoba, since November, and we have applied (last month) for a visitor's extension.
She's heading to the US at the beginning of next month, for a few weeks to visit family and friends, and then wants to come back so we can continue paperwork, and I'm scared like nobody's business that she'll get turned away at the border. She lives in Ohio, but with her Uncle.
I've written a letter, stating I'll support her (I have a good paying job and my own home), she has medical insurance here through Manulife, I've paid the Extension fees, and I even paid for a ticket for her to go home (I can change the dates if Immigration tells her to go pound salt...thank goodness for ticket insurance!).

The more I read, the more nervous I get.

I've determined we'll apply Outland while she's in the US, and I'll cover the fees online.
The only thing we can't get done fast, is the FBI fingerprints. From what I've read, as long as we get a medical done when they say to, we'll be ok there.

Thank you all so much for reading, and whatever input you can offer.

All advice is welcome advice!!

 

[Ponga]

Thank you so much for the reply.

I'm starting to get very nervous. I'm reading so many stories of how Border Security can make it difficult to come into Canada.

She's been visiting me in Manitoba, since November, and we have applied (last month) for a visitor's extension.
She's heading to the US at the beginning of next month, for a few weeks to visit family and friends, and then wants to come back so we can continue paperwork, and I'm scared like nobody's business that she'll get turned away at the border. She lives in Ohio, but with her Uncle.
I've written a letter, stating I'll support her (I have a good paying job and my own home), she has medical insurance here through Manulife, I've paid the Extension fees, and I even paid for a ticket for her to go home (I can change the dates if Immigration tells her to go pound salt...thank goodness for ticket insurance!).

The more I read, the more nervous I get.

I've determined we'll apply Outland while she's in the US, and I'll cover the fees online.
The only thing we can't get done fast, is the FBI fingerprints. From what I've read, as long as we get a medical done when they say to, we'll be ok there.

Thank you all so much for reading, and whatever input you can offer.

All advice is welcome advice!!

Are you applying under the Common-Law category (since you reference her as your girlfriend)? If so...how long have the two of you been living together, under the same roof, uninterrupted?

If she is going back the the US next month, to her `home', that she shares with her uncle...how can she also be living with you?

 

[Techylady44]

Thanks for the reply Ponga.
We can't apply as common-law, as she's only been visiting me (living in my house) since November.
We'll have to apply as conjugal, with the tough task of trying to prove that we're a couple.

Her home address in Ohio is with her Uncle. She's going to the US (specifically Utah) at the beginning of June, for about 3 weeks, at which time she'll fly back (her friend is coming to get her by car - they'll do a Thelma & Louise type trip )
On June 21, she's to fly back to Winnipeg.
She'll have with her: my letter, her insurance proof, receipt for visitor extension, and a one way ticket from Winnipeg to Ohio for September.....which I can change the dates on if she gets turned away at the border (I SO hope that doesn't happen though).

So, we'll apply as Conjugal, Outland while she's in Utah, and see how fast she can get her FBI check done while she's there.

We'd get married while she's here as a visitor, but I don't want Immigration to think we're trying to fudge the system. By the book is the best way. I'm just so nervous, because all answers, and whether or not a person can enter the country, seems to depend on if you get a Border Guard in a good mood or not.

 

[Ponga]

Thanks for the reply Ponga.
We can't apply as common-law, as she's only been visiting me (living in my house) since November.
We'll have to apply as conjugal, with the tough task of trying to prove that we're a couple.

Her home address in Ohio is with her Uncle. She's going to the US (specifically Utah) at the beginning of June, for about 3 weeks, at which time she'll fly back (her friend is coming to get her by car - they'll do a Thelma & Louise type trip )
On June 21, she's to fly back to Winnipeg.
She'll have with her: my letter, her insurance proof, receipt for visitor extension, and a one way ticket from Winnipeg to Ohio for September.....which I can change the dates on if she gets turned away at the border (I SO hope that doesn't happen though).

So, we'll apply as Conjugal, Outland while she's in Utah, and see how fast she can get her FBI check done while she's there.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, you have no chance of being approved as a conjugal couple.

There is nothing preventing you from living together (either in Canada or the US), EVEN WITH the 6 month limit on visitor status that most Americans get. People simply apply for an extension (to meet the C-L requirement), or leave for a day or two and return for another 6 months.

Others here will likely echo my opinion.

 

[Ponga]

My suggestion is for her to cancel that trip and apply to extend her visitor status here. If she leaves for 3 weeks, there's a good chance that the time that you've been living together (even though she's technically just a visitor in Canada) will be wasted, as it would no longer count towards the C-L requirement of cohabiting for 1 year (not 364 days, but a solid year). If she can remain in Canada until November, you could then apply as C-L.

IMHO, this really is your only hope.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

So, we'll apply as Conjugal, Outland while she's in Utah, and see how fast she can get her FBI check done while she's there.

We'd get married while she's here as a visitor, but I don't want Immigration to think we're trying to fudge the system. By the book is the best way. I'm just so nervous, because all answers, and whether or not a person can enter the country, seems to depend on if you get a Border Guard in a good mood or not.

As said above, conjugal is a very bad idea. You have zero barriers preventing you from living together or being married. I strongly suggest you either wait until you are common-law or get married.

As an American, she is not a Marriage of Convenience risk, so a CIC will not think you are "trying to fudge the system" if she marries you while in Canada as a visitor.

 

[Techylady44]

I was only divorced last month, as with Manitoba Law, a legal separation of 1 year is mandatory.

She couldn't leave her job until the term ended in November.

 

[QuebecOkie]

Here to echo Pongo's opinion. There is little to NO chance of you being approved as conjugal partners. That category is for people who absolutely cannot live together OR get married. You have no barriers in either of those cases. You can either get married and apply as spouses, or apply as common-law partners after at least 12 consecutive months of living together. Bear in mind that you'll need to be able to prove when you started to live together.

Another bit of bad news. (I'm assuming she's American, right?) The visitor extension for which she applied online goes out the window when she leaves Canada. On the visitor permit, it will state clearly that it is not good for reentry to Canada. When she goes to the US, that will reset the clock, so to speak, and she'll be limited by whatever the border agent decides to allow her when she reenters Canada (generally 6 months).

 

[QuebecOkie]

There's still no real barrier to marriage or living together. People even have sponsored common-law partners while still being married to someone else (after being separated but with the divorce not yet finalized). You can proceed, of course, however you want, but there is a very high likelihood of a long wait, only to have your application rejected and have to start over again.

 

[Ponga]

I was only divorced last month, as with Manitoba Law, a legal separation of 1 year is mandatory.

She couldn't leave her job until the term ended in November.

Sure she can, if she sees more value in her life by being with you in Canada now, even if she's unable to work in Canada.