**Which Nationalities immigrate the most to Canada and why? Plz read & reply**

[Hotellier Dxb]

Ok lets be honest !! I am Indian and staying abroad for 10yrs now. I have stayed mostly in GCC countries. I do agree with some Points Marvik raised and want to migrate Canada as well due to similar reasons. I visit India twice a year to see family and friends. Everytime you go back, you find more difficult and hard life. Roads are bad, traffic chaos, prices high etc. Just a small example; I am driving car here for 8yrs now but can't drive in India for even 01 day, due to bad traffic, no road laws, etc. U never know from which side cow, goat, dog or a child might come infront of your car. Here I can take my family to parks on weekends and honestly they are so well maintained with lot of facilities for kids but in India, I dont remember any park which matches these standards. We Indians are racist as well. Look at the difference between south/north India, ask yourself. We as Indians are great but our goverment is failing us. Indians are richest n well qualified in USA, EUROPE,ETC but in India we dont get opportunities to spread our wings like we can do in other countries. Y Lakshmi Mittal in richest man in UK and not in India. Y kalpana Chawla got name in USA and not in India. We are still living in British era with corrupt governance and unwanted political leaders. I love India because its the best culture around the world and teaches us a lot in life. we can go everywhere around the world for better life but still we love our roots.

 

[zulkfal]

Sorry to say if I read your research i wouldn't buy a single word. I am Econ/Fin/Stat student, worked economist with a central bank and as analyst with a Financial Consulting firm, I researched industries, and economics, build statistical, econometric, and financial model. I was verifying my single source of data before making any assumption, not me every rational person will behave in similar manner. Emerging markets have data sets which are produced by govt, central banks, or multilateral organizations. You should have looked at Stat Canada web for all the information you are looking for with breakdown to single observation, demographically divided, simply a very rich data set.
Developed world is not as developed as we think, Developed countries are sitting on a bubble of debt economies, this bubble can burst any time. How much they will print, Euro is in danger. India, China, Brazil, and other emerging economies are becoming knowledge base economies, similar to west during 1975-1999, these economies will take some - may be longer 15-20 - years but will eventually have better living standards. Knowledge levels are decreasing in west but improving in East, these days international student comprise approx 40% in western countries. This figure is higher for Europe, compare to Canada, and esp at graduate level for every 2 North American student there are 3 students from east,In EU the ration is 1-3.

 

[zulkfal]

Thanks for the post Zulfkal - helpful additions. I will check the Stat Can website for the immigrant details you mentioned, not sure why the EU immigrants pursue Canada PR for. They have the same (if not better) lifestyle, and does not face problems that we from developing countries face...

The only reason why I am being shaky is I have a 2 year old kid, and landing in a foreign location which does not recognize your qualifications/expereince, jobless with bleak immediate possibility of success is kinda freaking me out. I am not negative, just want to understand the reality before I take this very important decision for me, my spouse and my kid.

I did not quite understand the merge in the labor market part - could you please elaborate.

I am encouraged seeing your points on healthcare and education. What can Canada possibly provide that you dod not have in India - need some thoughts here as well.

Thanks again for your insights - looking for more.

Regards,

Merge with labour market means update your self with local knowledge. I am more than happy that some Asian universities are better than N. American universities but few. The level of mathematical sophistication in professional arena such as yours, research, is very high, very sophisticated statistical, financial, or econometric models. In your terms, different markets, different environment, different participant behavior, different underlying assumption on data and models.

Regarding healthcare and education, I will not say healthcare services or education is perfect but it can be easily access by any individual regardless of your income, background etc.

I studied in UK, after completing my studies, got a jobs, then HSMP, but I didn't liked the behavior of people around me simply due to my background. Immigration of Anglosexian people is due to market conditions since 2001, if you look at Statcan statistics EU immigrants figure took a sharp jump - Try regression discontinuity analysis, with EU labor market and econ indicators, you will have your answer.

Number of People immigrating from india, Pak is far lower than EU, GCC, China, and South America. another point, multicultural society need a diversified population, and CIC draw its immigration plan on basis of multicultural society thought and distribute visa evenly to all VO, mean they also determine number of visa to different nationalities i.e. 1000 visas for Albania Nationals.

Indian are also a major group in Canada, constituting 58% of South Asian community, Hindi speakers are in higher number than punjabi and Urdu, all this data is at Stat Canada web. I didn't think to bring this point, but in your every post you mentioned higher number of Pakistani immigrating to Canada. Simple check rule, browse the forum there are 2 threads for Islamabad/ London (Pak cases) look at number of followers, compare those to 7 threads for ND visa office.

 

[siddharth_pharma84]

Dear Siddharth!!! just to let you know that I am far far away being a Sri Lankan woman I am as you said in India gori or ferangi ;D ;D ;D And after living in Maldives for a few years we had no choice for our VO, so it is Colombo. But you never know where life will take you next and we came to India. And believe me we been living in few other countries where we could adjust very easily as we are mix couple ( even in color ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D) and I can tell you this is a great fun. I will advise you to try to live somewhere else and you will feel BIG different........ I know many Indians who settled abroad and they are happy. Being a ferangi here trust me I have many advantages too... And I have no problem with young generation at all....But seeing all this things around I would prefer to rise my child in Canada and my husband is agree with me. And idea about immigration came from him and his is the main applicant too. So maybe for you it is normal to use horn of your car instead of tern signal and carry 3 children on the small scooty, but for me it is shocking how people can risk their children lifes like this....
And as I told previously this is my personal opinion about immigration....Maybe you miss understand me I have nothing against you life stile here, this is as you were born and nobody can change it. I am married to Indian too, and I am happy, I think Indian men are best husbands in the world!!! Honestly!!!

Shubh Kaamnaayein to you with your immigration process!!!
Cheers,
Marvik.

Fortunately you have started learning hindi . In fact mixed couple have lot of fun india , even get priority treatment in restaurants , pubs , markets and even in small vegetable market . People must be staring coz of contrast skin color , its normal .Trust me nobody would have cheated you coz of your skin color{ trying to earn more profit from tourist !!! } . once you learn to speak local language , you can have all fun .Hey you are n't ferangi but Indian bride . sorry to say but your husband didn't clear all your doubts yet about Indian society . My own brother married to Romanian , she loved to stay with us on holiday rather than going back to her home .
Canada immigration a completely different subject in my opinion . personally i would like to immigrate to avoid traffic , pollution and better health care . India is a growing economy and vast nation . kindly don't compare with Maldives{ not even size of smallest state in india} . I had lived in uk for 4yrs , i know European society , luxury of living and lot of facilities .Even i too want to move out but won't ever suggest such a bad place to live .I think you are having cultural as well as environment shock . Anyways keep learning new words { hindi ] soon you would have bunch of frends . yea its better to move to canada but still proud to be Indian.

 

[siddharth_pharma84]

Ok lets be honest !! I am Indian and staying abroad for 10yrs now. I have stayed mostly in GCC countries. I do agree with some Points Marvik raised and want to migrate Canada as well due to similar reasons. I visit India twice a year to see family and friends. Everytime you go back, you find more difficult and hard life. Roads are bad, traffic chaos, prices high etc. Just a small example; I am driving car here for 8yrs now but can't drive in India for even 01 day, due to bad traffic, no road laws, etc. U never know from which side cow, goat, dog or a child might come infront of your car. Here I can take my family to parks on weekends and honestly they are so well maintained with lot of facilities for kids but in India, I dont remember any park which matches these standards. We Indians are racist as well. Look at the difference between south/north India, ask yourself. We as Indians are great but our goverment is failing us. Indians are richest n well qualified in USA, EUROPE,ETC but in India we dont get opportunities to spread our wings like we can do in other countries. Y Lakshmi Mittal in richest man in UK and not in India. Y kalpana Chawla got name in USA and not in India. We are still living in British era with corrupt governance and unwanted political leaders. I love India because its the best culture around the world and teaches us a lot in life. we can go everywhere around the world for better life but still we love our roots.

To be very frank , learn to drive like man rather than like a chick . sorry European kids don't respect parent nor cares about them in old age . well seems you look at parks rather than overall development of a kid .please can you just look at European nations .They have same opinion on neighboring states too eg. Scottish and Irishmen they can't be friends ever but belong to united kingdom. yea you can't find cows,dogs on road coz simply they eat them .Stop complaining about everything. Goat are found mostly in village . Even if you visit a small village in any country , you could easily found goats on road .At least in India you can find variety of vegetable fresh , while abroad mostly frozen. i don't have good opinion on hospitality industry especially a hotelier [ sorry my opinion ].

kindly look at mittal profile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi_Mittal before suggesting anything . A person earns position in society coz of his/her deeds not nationality .Each and every nation has corruption , does that mean India is worst place to live. you want to migrate as you have habit of western society . I think you are a confused soul . ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[Quebec_2012]

Thanks Zulfkal - very insightful.

As I have mentioned multiple times over by now, the sole reason why I am so jittery is because of my kid vis-a-vis the risks involved. Had this been 4-5 years back, of course I would not have had the need to start this topic. Just gone ahead straight and applied.

The only thing which still bothers me is: finding jobs there in your respective stream, or something which earns you enough money and respect. Of course, hearing stories of taxi drivers there being South Asian Doctors and Engineers kinda scare you crazy. Infrastructure is of course good, tall skyscrapers, nice parks, good roads, less traffic, no animals on roads, less corruption, blah blah.

But will you be able to enjoy and cherish all these if you dont have enough disposable income and/or do not have a job of your satisfaction? Everything I think comes to big zilch, does it not? Your kid asks for something (which I dont think twice here before getting him, even if it runs into a few grands), and you shoo him off citing some stupid excuses when the real reason you know is cash crunch. What if we end up just ordering for dollar menu at McDs over there when your kid cries over something more expensive...?

I am not a pessimist, just a realist "evaluating" and "assessing" before I make this crucial move...!

Regards,

 

[talk2melas]

Dear Quebec_2012, The first thing about migrating to Canada is decision.Check your situation in India and decide if you really want to leave.If you are moving to Canada, you have to save enough money that will tide you over until you are able to earn higher income.Canada do not really place you at the level you were in your native country so if you want to advance yourself in Canada, you have to get a canadian certificate as soon as you get there.Being in Canada will afford your child [children] with a better future and you will get lots of benefit when you become a citizen.The first few years will not be easy but if you put in lots of effort, then you will be able to intergrate well into their soceity.
I am an African and I want to migrate to Canada with my husband.If we get our PR, we will be able to get Canadian degrees at a cheaper rate, work and earn better salary, train our children in a better environment, live in a beautiful environment etc.The benefits are many but its not easy to get the PR.without determination, you will simply give up.I've read lots of horrible experience people had in Canada but that does not deter me.We've applied.If we don't make it this year, we will apply again next year.

 

[masterchief]

Quebec_2012
i think the same
it's a really hard decision, and in my case...moving alone...it's even more hard to think about that :\

 

[Hotellier Dxb]

To be very frank , learn to drive like man rather than like a chick . sorry European kids don't respect parent nor cares about them in old age . well seems you look at parks rather than overall development of a kid .please can you just look at European nations .They have same opinion on neighboring states too eg. Scottish and Irishmen they can't be friends ever but belong to united kingdom. yea you can't find cows,dogs on road coz simply they eat them .Stop complaining about everything. Goat are found mostly in village . Even if you visit a small village in any country , you could easily found goats on road .At least in India you can find variety of vegetable fresh , while abroad mostly frozen. i don't have good opinion on hospitality industry especially a hotelier [ sorry my opinion ].

kindly look at mittal profile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshmi_Mittal before suggesting anything . A person earns position in society coz of his/her deeds not nationality .Each and every nation has corruption , does that mean India is worst place to live. you want to migrate as you have habit of western society . I think you are a confused soul . ;D ;D ;D ;D

Glad that you opened my eyes !!! Good luck to you and ur wisdom

 

[irenesario]

Informative post..

Irene

 

[harry_aussie]

Thanks Zulfkal - very insightful.

As I have mentioned multiple times over by now, the sole reason why I am so jittery is because of my kid vis-a-vis the risks involved. Had this been 4-5 years back, of course I would not have had the need to start this topic. Just gone ahead straight and applied.

The only thing which still bothers me is: finding jobs there in your respective stream, or something which earns you enough money and respect. Of course, hearing stories of taxi drivers there being South Asian Doctors and Engineers kinda scare you crazy. Infrastructure is of course good, tall skyscrapers, nice parks, good roads, less traffic, no animals on roads, less corruption, blah blah.

Quebec i can understand your thinking. You want to know the real picture. I am sad to say that you wont see it here. Whatever stats have been shown here dont reflect the true picture. Until unless someone is determined to update himself or herself to the canadian standards, there is no point in moving to canada. For the people who say they are giving the best to their children, please wait till they turn teenagers. Your coming to canada is only fruitful if your kids dont say you to f*** off or call you an immigrant. More than half of my familly is in canada and sometimes they say that they have all the materialistic things but peace of mind is back in india. Critics are more than welcome.

But will you be able to enjoy and cherish all these if you dont have enough disposable income and/or do not have a job of your satisfaction? Everything I think comes to big zilch, does it not? Your kid asks for something (which I dont think twice here before getting him, even if it runs into a few grands), and you shoo him off citing some stupid excuses when the real reason you know is cash crunch. What if we end up just ordering for dollar menu at McDs over there when your kid cries over something more expensive...?

I am not a pessimist, just a realist "evaluating" and "assessing" before I make this crucial move...!

Regards,

 

[harry_aussie]

Quebec i can understand your thinking. You want to know the real picture. I am sad to say that you wont see it here. Whatever stats have been shown here dont reflect the true picture. Until unless someone is determined to update himself or herself to the canadian standards, there is no point in moving to canada. For the people who say they are giving the best to their children, please wait till they turn teenagers. Your coming to canada is only fruitful if your kids dont say you to f*** off or call you an immigrant. More than half of my familly is in canada and sometimes they say that they have all the materialistic luxuries but peace of mind is back in india. Critics are more than welcome.

 

[andreagail999]

Hi Everyone.


The problem is people take immigration so seriously that it really makes them crazy.My advise is Please go with a flow. Yes I understand its difficult when you have kids, but honestly its not worth putting more pressure on yourself, I am Indian , left India 13 years ago lived all over the world except the Midldle East. My wife is Japanese , we currently live in Thailand. The reason we want to move to canada is my wife grew up in B.C and did her graduation in UBC.

We both love India...and Japan , and dont mind moving to India or Japan at all. But we like travel too, so if given a chance to immigrate to Canada we will work there , if not its ok , we are good where we are

The Golden rule is Grass is always greener on the other side. So people who are not happy in the place they are , wont be happy anywhere ....sorry

 

[harry_aussie]

Dear Andrea, you got the words i was looking for. +1 for you

 

[andreagail999]

Dear Andrea, you got the words i was looking for. +1 for you

Thanks harry_aussie

charlie