WHERE TO LAND????

[offtocalgary]

:-\

Dear Forum

So the story so far.....

I have my COPR and ultimately want to reside in Calgary, Alberta (as my name suggests!). I have to "land" soon before the end of February 2014 before my COPR expires. My wife is also due to give birth in January so thinking of getting on a flight ASAP (next couple of weeks) just so I can deploy my COPR and get my PR card before its too late ;D ;D

So, I want to fly out from the UK simply to become a "landed immigrant" and get my PR card sorted then return a few days later back to the UK to see my wife and get ready for the birth of our child.

Does it matter where I land? I was thinking of Toronto rather than Calgary just because the flights are cheaper. Or will this look odd if I am planning to settle in Calgary?

All advice welcomed - I think this forum is brilliant so welcome any comments or expertise in the matter.

Thanks

OfftoCalgary (via Toronto)

 

[scylla]

No - it doesn't matter where you land.

 

[offtocalgary]

Thanks scylla!!!

That seems simple enough. Any other advice for the landing process?

I read I need to provide an inventory of all my belongings that I will bring at a later date to avoid duty...any other thoughts or preperation I should do?

Thanks again

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks scylla!!!

That seems simple enough. Any other advice for the landing process?

I read I need to provide an inventory of all my belongings that I will bring at a later date to avoid duty...any other thoughts or preperation I should do?

Thanks again

Yes you need to prepare the B4 import forms, listing all the goods you intend to bring with you as a PR. If your wife is a returning Canadian, she will be allowed to bring goods in her name for free.

You also need an address in Canada where CIC can send your PR card to. It will arrive approx 30+ days after your landing date. Whoever receives it, can then courier your PR card to you in the UK. So hopefully you have some family or good friends who you can use for this.

PR card makes it easier to travel back to Canada as a PR, but as a visa-exempt passport holder it's not essential.

 

[TooCareless1]

Most imp thing to consider,

Where to Deliver your baby England or Canada?????

If England, you cant bring him to Canada. your baby will need to be sponsored again,,,, 8 months process minimum
Better is Canada, your new born baby will be national
Best is Calgary Alberta, Health card will be available in a month, would help alot of cost saving. (Ontario Health card is 90 days)
Rest is upto you.
I hope i explained what needs to be explained

 

[Rob_TO]

If England, you cant bring him to Canada. your baby will need to be sponsored again,,,, 8 months process minimum
Better is Canada, your new born baby will be national

Baby doesn't need to be sponsored since mom is a Canadian.
Only thing baby will need is travel document/passport.

 

[Avadava]

Baby doesn't need to be sponsored since mom is a Canadian.
Only thing baby will need is travel document/passport.

It is true that the baby will automatically be Canadian because one parent is Canadian (Mother) no matter where the baby is born. The only thing is that the baby will need a certificate of citizenship which the mother will need to apply for in order to get a passport for the baby. The certificate of citizenship application takes about 6 months, based on a complete application. Could take longer if documents are missing.

But the OP knows all this from another thread. He decided to land now (which I think is a good idea) before his COPR expires (Feb 2014) and after the baby is born in the UK they will take their time to make all the arrangements for the family to move together to Canada.

Doesn't matter where you land, just make sure you provide an address for your PR to be sent to. Like Rob-TO said, a friend can receive it and courier it to you in the UK.

 

[TooCareless1]

Better check processing times of citizenship application. they are taking 25 months. So until baby wont have passport which he wont have more than 2 years, he wont be able to travel.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/cit-processing.asp

I hope you guys understand the risk of having baby outside Canada before guiding someone

Thanks

 

[Avadava]

Better check processing times of citizenship application. they are taking 25 months. So until baby wont have passport which he wont have more than 2 years, he wont be able to travel.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/cit-processing.asp

I hope you guys understand the risk of having baby outside Canada before guiding someone

Thanks

I'm sorry, but the link you provided is for "Grant of Citizenship". That is when a permanent resident becomes a Canadian citizen.

What the OP's baby needs is a Certificate of Citizenship (Proof of Citizenship) which currently is a 6 month process: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/certif-processing.asp

The child is automatically a Canadian citizen because the mother is Canadian, so the proof of citizenship will just validate that. The child does not need to be granted citizenship as the child is not applying to become a citizen.

 

[OhCanadiana]

What the OP's baby needs is a Certificate of Citizenship (Proof of Citizenship) which currently is a 6 month process: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/certif-processing.asp

The child is automatically a Canadian citizen because the mother is Canadian, so the proof of citizenship will just validate that. The child does not need to be granted citizenship as the child is not applying to become a citizen.

Correct.

And, if they want to travel faster than that, they can get a temporary passport for the newborn baby and use that for the move to Canada while the citizenship certificate is processed.

 

[jomz]

It doesn't really matter where you land, as long it is in Canada LOL The only thing to consider is the lineups in immigration.

 

[QuebecOkie]

The only rule of thumb is to AVOID landing in Québec unless you applied through Québec. Québec is "special" (isn't it always?!?) and requires an extra piece of documentation that the ROC doesn't require. Some people get hassled if they enter through Québec when intending to live in another province.

 

[offtocalgary]

Great info thanks team!

I have the game plan

Fly in a couple of weeks
become a landed immigrant
get my PR card mailed to inlaws address in Ontario
ask mother in law to bring PR card over when she visits in late jan 2014
apply for temp passport for baby when born (thanks to Canadian Mother)

And as they say..."Im all set"

Thanks

 

[OhCanadiana]

Great info thanks team!

I have the game plan

Fly in a couple of weeks
become a landed immigrant
get my PR card mailed to inlaws address in Ontario
ask mother in law to bring PR card over when she visits in late jan 2014
apply for temp passport for baby when born (thanks to Canadian Mother)

And as they say..."Im all set"

Thanks

One more thing for that list: prepare B4/B4A to save yourself duties on whatever goods you'll be importing. You and/or your wife will need to inventory your goods to prepare your B4/B4A which you will need to turn in when you move (when you intend to live in Canada for min 12 months) and your wife when she first crosses the border with the intent to move back to Canada. It will be much easier to do this now that when you are sleep deprived with a newborn baby.