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We really don't know when they start 2nd stage of the PGP application. Do they start doing this after they reach the 5000 cap? We really don't know. We can only wait and see when someone actually gets 2nd stage notification.
 
1st stage for PGP based on CIC posted processing is 44 months. They are still working on the applications received prior to 2011, CIC advised in their news release that the new applications from the 2014 500 cap will be placed behind those already in queue.
 
MofC2014 said:
1st stage for PGP based on CIC posted processing is 44 months. They are still working on the applications received prior to 2011, CIC advised in their news release that the new applications from the 2014 500 cap will be placed behind those already in queue.

Ouch! I would have thought that would run a parallel PGPs so that the old PGP and new PGP would run same time since the qualification rules are quite different.

So these people who got the cap will have a long long wait ahead of them.

Screech339
 
screech339 said:
Ouch! I would have thought that would run a parallel PGPs so that the old PGP and new PGP would run same time since the qualification rules are quite different.

So these people who got the cap will have a long long wait ahead of them.

Screech339

From CIC:

Please note that PGP applications received before the November 5, 2011 pause and currently in the queue will be processed before any new applications (received on or after Jan. 2, 2014) are considered.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-12-31.asp
 
MofC2014 said:
From CIC:

Please note that PGP applications received before the November 5, 2011 pause and currently in the queue will be processed before any new applications (received on or after Jan. 2, 2014) are considered.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2013-12-31.asp

I guess CIC doesn't want to hire extra people to run the new PGP program. While it would be considered unfair to those sponsored under the old PGP to wait a long time while those under new PGP would get faster timeline, I thought the new PGP would get a shorter wait times since 2 years as passed. To me that's long enough for the old PGP to "in theory" catch up to the new PGP.

Man that's a bummer.
 
well they only had the big quota's of 25000 visas per year for last 3 years (2012, 2013,2014), not sure if they will have same for 2015....

But they must keep high quotas in order to reduce backlogs so that visa offices can issue visas, since it's not just CPC-Miss. but also visa offices.

Some offices still have not decided on 2007 cases yet.......it's unfair to them really to wait that long.

Only when ALL existing files are all finished (at visa offices) can we really say that the backlog has reduced.

CPC-M and all visa offices are still very slow in processing these PGP cases.
 
screech339 said:
I guess CIC doesn't want to hire extra people to run the new PGP program. While it would be considered unfair to those sponsored under the old PGP to wait a long time while those under new PGP would get faster timeline, I thought the new PGP would get a shorter wait times since 2 years as passed. To me that's long enough for the old PGP to "in theory" catch up to the new PGP.

Man that's a bummer.

The only changed here is criteria, no other favors - this is CIC-M stage, wait till it gets to LVO's where they re-request all the docs and how they miss lot of things. You know there is a 2007 user who was refused his app at LVO stage coz the officer made a mistake in his LICO whereas he was all good, had to appeal and is still waiting. I mean, how bad is that

When they re-opened the PGP in 2011, they bundled all up and some went to CPP-O and some to LVO, we had 2009 getting before 2008, and more so...totally unfair but folks were just glad PGP kick started, I am afraid this has to been in the same light

"CIC will continue to process applications to sponsor parents and grandparents based on the first in first out principle. This means that new applications submitted in this category when the program reopens on January 2, 2014, will be placed in queue behind the applications in the existing inventory of sponsorship applications for parents and grandparents."

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob561.asp

Luckily, my folks were here since 2012 on visit visa so come citizenship time ( as we get 50% towards it ), we have a 8.5 months head start so we can apply in May 2016
 
user828 said:
"CIC will continue to process applications to sponsor parents and grandparents based on the first in first out principle. This means that new applications submitted in this category when the program reopens on January 2, 2014, will be placed in queue behind the applications in the existing inventory of sponsorship applications for parents and grandparents."

This is also why i've stated that it's foolish to submit questionable apps right now, instead of a guaranteed good app in Jan 2015. Those that submitted apps with scanned signatures, 2010 income not meeting LICO, etc... may need to wait until 2015 or 2016 until they find out if their app is rejected or not, meaning they would miss out on other chances to apply.

Meanwhile the actual difference in processing time between the 5K apps in Jan 2014, and the 5K they will most likely accept in Jan 2015... will be negligible considering all 10K are going to the back of a pile that already has over 50K other apps waiting.
 
Hi guys I just called CIC like many of you did to inquire about the application, but the agent who answered the phone said there's no note on my file and she also said credit card being charged doesn't mean application making the 5000 cap. I'm suddenly worried now. My file was received Jan 21st and my CC charged Jan 30th. What do you guys think of the stuff the agent said? Is the consensus that file not returned and CC charged means making the 5000 just wishful thinking on our part?
 
OnePieceOne said:
Hi guys I just called CIC like many of you did to inquire about the application, but the agent who answered the phone said there's no note on my file and she also said credit card being charged doesn't mean application making the 5000 cap. I'm suddenly worried now. My file was received Jan 21st and my CC charged Jan 30th. What do you guys think of the stuff the agent said? Is the consensus that file not returned and CC charged means making the 5000 just wishful thinking on our part?

This is part of the problem I have with they charge the whole application cost. How does one pay the 75 dollar non-refundable fee. The 75 dollar got to be paid somehow. Frankly I think they should update website to have 2 different charges. One for the 75 application fee and the other based on family size. This way CIC gets the 75 without giving the impression that your application will go towards cap.

Screech339
 
screech339 said:
This is part of the problem I have with they charge the whole application cost. How does one pay the 75 dollar non-refundable fee. The 75 dollar got to be paid somehow. Frankly I think they should update website to have 2 different charges. One for the 75 application fee and the other based on family size. This way CIC gets the 75 without giving the impression that your application will go towards cap.

Screech339

The government would never do that, the reason is very simple ... for possible 1 or 2 years they can use the money. They have approx $5 million to invest, make money on all the fees submitted, and in case they reject the application at a later date, they just give back the $1000 per app without interest. This was the smartest move the government made to make free money. Some years ago, I did some research on this, and it turns out, banks overholding someone's money let's say combined $1 million, they invest it short term and in one day can make as much as $200,000 on the initial $1 million. There's a saying, money makes money. So each time a bank places hold on your money, they actually use the money freely to invest and make huge profits.
 
CIC News Release: 5,000 complete Parent and Grandparent program (PGP) applications now received since start of 2014

Open CIC website, News Release to read about it.
 
CIC: "The PGP program will re-open to new applications in January 2015. Further details will be available closer to that date."
 
This excerpt from today's news release deserves analysis for 2014 PGP applicants.

"Since the Action Plan for Faster Family Reunification was launched in 2011, the government has cut the backlog in half and the department anticipates cutting the backlog by 75 per cent by the end of 2015."

How big is the backlog currently?