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What travel document needed for my son (USC) to return to Canada while pending PR application?

armoured

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Thanks a lot for clarifications, it helped a lot.
Regarding the email, it says they will send COPR in the PR portal after I confirm his current location, which why I feel its kinda last step or one before. They clearly indicated if he is outside Canda they can not send COPR in pr portal and the instruction would be different, I was trying to understand what that other process would look like.
Ah, I see. This really is the passport request (equivalent), but because they thought the child was in Canada, they've started the process to make him a PR by means of the so-called virtual landing.

When you confirm the negative (that he's not in Canada), they should/will issue a passport request. For other nationalities (and I assume for US but not certain) that usually means taking the package with passport and photos to the local VFS, where they send it on to visa office (at embassy / consulate etc) to issue COPR and insert a visa if necessary.

The wrinkle here is that I don't know how long it will take to do that. Once the passport request is issued it can be submitted anywhere and as I said, maybe 1-4 weeks (2 weeks pretty common). But responses to webforms etc can result in delays while it gets routed (it often seems like any webform step takes minimum of weeks even to get an automated response). I do not know if there's any way to speed this up.

I wouldn't be shy about trying other means to support like MP's office, but that may not work either.

Alternatively you could wait/respond that the child will be in Canada in 5 weeks and could do the virtual landing then. Again, don't know if that works for them.

Good luck. Timing is really the only issue at this point. We could guess at what might be better etc but it'd be a guess, and do not know what other constraints the child and family have.

[Side note that advising them before that child was in India SHOULD have led them to issue this as passport request and not the in-Canada process but ... they take weeks to get that info in the system, it seems.]
 

anil1201

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Ah, I see. This really is the passport request (equivalent), but because they thought the child was in Canada, they've started the process to make him a PR by means of the so-called virtual landing.

When you confirm the negative (that he's not in Canada), they should/will issue a passport request. For other nationalities (and I assume for US but not certain) that usually means taking the package with passport and photos to the local VFS, where they send it on to visa office (at embassy / consulate etc) to issue COPR and insert a visa if necessary.

The wrinkle here is that I don't know how long it will take to do that. Once the passport request is issued it can be submitted anywhere and as I said, maybe 1-4 weeks (2 weeks pretty common). But responses to webforms etc can result in delays while it gets routed (it often seems like any webform step takes minimum of weeks even to get an automated response). I do not know if there's any way to speed this up.

I wouldn't be shy about trying other means to support like MP's office, but that may not work either.

Alternatively you could wait/respond that the child will be in Canada in 5 weeks and could do the virtual landing then. Again, don't know if that works for them.

Good luck. Timing is really the only issue at this point. We could guess at what might be better etc but it'd be a guess, and do not know what other constraints the child and family have.

[Side note that advising them before that child was in India SHOULD have led them to issue this as passport request and not the in-Canada process but ... they take weeks to get that info in the system, it seems.]
Thanks again!, they said I need to respond in 7 days, so not much of an option besideds asking them to extend the time to trigger virtual landing. Any idea how long the virtual landing takes time to complete?, I heard it takes longer.
 

armoured

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Thanks again!, they said I need to respond in 7 days, so not much of an option besideds asking them to extend the time to trigger virtual landing. Any idea how long the virtual landing takes time to complete?, I heard it takes longer.
I do not know, but it seems the virtual landing is often longer. (My impression of this may be skewed due to seeing more reports by those who get passport request abroad and then inform IRCC they are in Canada, which introduces a big potential delay/point of failure).

Personally I would try to do out of country to have it done with (esp considering also medical coverage), but as noted - I'm not in your situation and I have no idea how long it may take IRCC to issue the passport request to allow you to proceed.

There is some hope that with the seven day deadline, IRCC would action it immediately ('immediately' by their standards anyway), and also IRCC does tend to want to get files closed in last quarter of the year. But that's not a guarantee it will happen to fit your current travel plans/tickets.
 
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anil1201

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I do not know, but it seems the virtual landing is often longer. (My impression of this may be skewed due to seeing more reports by those who get passport request abroad and then inform IRCC they are in Canada, which introduces a big potential delay/point of failure).

Personally I would try to do out of country to have it done with (esp considering also medical coverage), but as noted - I'm not in your situation and I have no idea how long it may take IRCC to issue the passport request to allow you to proceed.

There is some hope that with the seven day deadline, IRCC would action it immediately ('immediately' by their standards anyway), and also IRCC does tend to want to get files closed in last quarter of the year. But that's not a guarantee it will happen to fit your current travel plans/tickets.
I have confirmed them he is out of country, couple of days back, got a email today that to let them know when he is back in the country. I guess they want to keep it as virtual landing. Hopefully the virtual landing wont take months
 
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