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What should I do before filing the mandamus?

canopywing

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I am planning to file the mandamus when my application reached 36 months. Is there any "must do" procedure or action I should do before filing the mandamus? For example, request ATIP, write a letter to CIC, contacted MP or whatever.... Please advise.
 

djoli

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Given how long it takes CIC to process all applications these days I would say 36 months is unfortunately not a very long time to file for Mandamus. There are hundreds of people in this forum that have way passed the 36 month mark including myself that have not yet filed for Mandamus simply because the process is costly and it is far from being a slam dunk.
If you go against the Government chances are you will lose.
Also you are correct, you need to do all those things below before you can file for Mandamus e.i order at least 1 ATIP, contact your MP, write a letter directory to CIC, submit your inquiry through the case specific site etc...

We also have a thread in this forum called "2011 and 2012 applications" you may want to join in and provide your timeline so that he can judge for yourself how long some of those folks have been waiting for.

canopywing said:
I am planning to file the mandamus when my application reached 36 months. Is there any "must do" procedure or action I should do before filing the mandamus? For example, request ATIP, write a letter to CIC, contacted MP or whatever.... Please advise.
 

janoo

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Hi... I have done all and now if I find 5 k i will go for mandamus or wait for CIC to
decide ?? now for me there is no time limit ? I call many time and now tired.
enter into 40 months still waiting.....
 

dpenabill

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canopywing said:
I am planning to file the mandamus when my application reached 36 months. Is there any "must do" procedure or action I should do before filing the mandamus? For example, request ATIP, write a letter to CIC, contacted MP or whatever.... Please advise.
Short answer: see a lawyer, use a lawyer.



Longer answer:

I concur in the post by djoli but it warrants adding with emphasis that an application for Mandamus is an extraordinary remedy, and it really is an extraordinary remedy, a process which even experienced lawyers find complex if not difficult. In other words: not something to do pro se.

That is, as a practical matter, you need a lawyer. Sure, technically, you can proceed pro se, but as djoli points out, there are indeed must do steps necessary before commencing the formal Mandamus application process, and if you do not already know those, this is not a legal process in which to learn them on the go.

To be clear, the process is essentially one of prosecuting the Minister for a wrong. It is not a matter of merely filing an application which a court tries to sort out . . . it is almost literally a prosecution, with all the burdens attendant bring a lawsuit against the government, alleging and proving the government has done wrong, alleging and proving you have done all the necessary steps to give the government notice of what was wrong and a proper demand that the government take the action the law absolutely mandates the government take. Fall short, and you can be ordered to pay the Minister's legal costs. The Minister's lawyers do not come cheap.

Clue: delay alone is not an adequate ground for the grant of Mandamus. But a delay, a delay long enough to amount to a refusal to process the application, is a minimum element in the citizenship application context.

And as djoli indicates, three years into it probably does not amount to a delay which will be sufficient to warrant Mandamus relief.
 

janoo

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May 16, 2014
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have taken the step :

a) waited for 40 months. b) contacted MP several times.
c) write to minister twice d) send case specific query
e) got ATIP reports. f) submitted all requested documents in several kilo weight.
g) translated whatever documents they needed. h) during waiting renew my
PR card. ( PR renewal also proving that resident requirement met. )
i) CBSA, health record detail provided with complete detail )


Hope this is sufficent to officer reveiw the file ?

which lying under review from November 14,2014 and stalled at st.clair
for 2 years.