What is the difference between quarantining for 14 days and isolating for 14 days?

[studentfrompoland]

Source: Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Travel restrictions, exemptions and advice - Canada.ca

I am travelling to Canada in about 3-4 weeks. My friend has a 2 bedroom basement (full kitchen, 1 bathroom, washer, dryer, etc.. and a separate entrance).
He is occupying 1 bedroom. So I was reading following on the Canada.ca website:

"When entering Canada, you'll be:
...
required to acknowledge that you must:

• quarantine for 14 days if you don't have symptoms or
• isolate for 14 days if you have symptoms"

So, that means if I have no symptoms I could be quarantining (for the remaining 11 days) in his other bedroom that is not occupied.
My friend ist 25 years old and barely leaves the house.

Am I understanding it correctly or do I HAVE TO isolate myself for the remaining 11 days? To my understanding, and as the website states, if I don't have symptoms I don't need to isolate myself and I "just" need to quarantine.

Thank you guys!!

 

[studentfrompoland]

It also says:
"asked if you have a suitable place to isolate or quarantine, where:

• you'll have access to basic necessities, including water, food, medication and heat during the winter months
• you won't have contact with people who:
  • are 65 years or older
  • have underlying medical conditions
  • have compromised immune systems"

Since he is 25 years and barely going out it should be fine, right?

 

[canuck78]

It also says:
"asked if you have a suitable place to isolate or quarantine, where:

• you'll have access to basic necessities, including water, food, medication and heat during the winter months
• you won't have contact with people who:
  • are 65 years or older
  • have underlying medical conditions
  • have compromised immune systems"

Since he is 25 years and barely going out it should be fine, right?

If he is going out definitely not allowed and it's unclear whether it would be ok even if he was also quarantining. Certain provinces have definitely not being allowing this while others have. After Feb 22nd it is unclear whether quarantine plans will be examined more in depth. You are also breaking the rule of sharing a small apartment.


You cannot quarantine in group living environments

Some examples include:

• industrial camps
• group residences or homes
• hostels
• construction trailers
• student residences (unless you’ve received prior authorization)
• residential care or long-term care facilities
• sharing a small apartment
• living in the same household with large families or many people
• having housemates who haven’t travelled with you that you can’t avoid

 

[canuck78]

Source: Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Travel restrictions, exemptions and advice - Canada.ca

I am travelling to Canada in about 3-4 weeks. My friend has a 2 bedroom basement (full kitchen, 1 bathroom, washer, dryer, etc.. and a separate entrance).
He is occupying 1 bedroom. So I was reading following on the Canada.ca website:

"When entering Canada, you'll be:
...
required to acknowledge that you must:

• quarantine for 14 days if you don't have symptoms or
• isolate for 14 days if you have symptoms"

So, that means if I have no symptoms I could be quarantining (for the remaining 11 days) in his other bedroom that is not occupied.
My friend ist 25 years old and barely leaves the house.

Am I understanding it correctly or do I HAVE TO isolate myself for the remaining 11 days? To my understanding, and as the website states, if I don't have symptoms I don't need to isolate myself and I "just" need to quarantine.

Thank you guys!!

Was also watching a press conference and public health doctor in NS was essentially saying he was using quarantine and isolation interchangeably. Although there are federal rules the provinces run healthcare and have their own interpretation and implementation of the rules and potentially other requirements. Healthcare is managed provincially in Canada.

 

[studentfrompoland]

If he is going out definitely not allowed and it's unclear whether it would be ok even if he was also quarantining. Certain provinces have definitely not being allowing this while others have. After Feb 22nd it is unclear whether quarantine plans will be examined more in depth. You are also breaking the rule of sharing a small apartment.


You cannot quarantine in group living environments

Some examples include:

• industrial camps
• group residences or homes
• hostels
• construction trailers
• student residences (unless you’ve received prior authorization)
• residential care or long-term care facilities
• sharing a small apartment
• living in the same household with large families or many people
• having housemates who haven’t travelled with you that you can’t avoid

Hmm.. I think there is too much room for interpretation:

"you won't be in a group or community living arrangement such as:"

To me, I googled what a group consists of. It says usually more than 2 people. I won't be leaving my room except for going to the bathroom.

Is there any email to ask them or just ask the college?

 

[Ironclad]

If he is going out definitely not allowed and it's unclear whether it would be ok even if he was also quarantining. Certain provinces have definitely not being allowing this while others have. After Feb 22nd it is unclear whether quarantine plans will be examined more in depth. You are also breaking the rule of sharing a small apartment.


You cannot quarantine in group living environments

Some examples include:

• industrial camps
• group residences or homes
• hostels
• construction trailers
• student residences (unless you’ve received prior authorization)
• residential care or long-term care facilities
• sharing a small apartment
• living in the same household with large families or many people
• having housemates who haven’t travelled with you that you can’t avoid

Exactly one may easily get booked under the quarantine act pretty sure the enforcement pace will dramatically increase in the upcoming months as more travellers pour in.

 

[Robrobrob]

In my opinion the website is not specific enough. Like @studentfrompoland said, there is too much room for interpretation. And I know you could probably save some money while being in your buddy's apartment but I'd book something else just to be on the safe side even if it costs you 300$ more.

Check back with your college

 

[studentfrompoland]

basically to sum it up there is no fixed description of what exactly is allowed or not allowed and it depends upon the border officer who is issuing the study permit if I am allowed to continue with my quarantine plan or not.
Bullshit

 

[canuck78]

Hmm.. I think there is too much room for interpretation:

"you won't be in a group or community living arrangement such as:"

To me, I googled what a group consists of. It says usually more than 2 people. I won't be leaving my room except for going to the bathroom.

Is there any email to ask them or just ask the college?

But sharing a small apartment applies to you.

 

[studentfrompoland]

But sharing a small apartment applies to you.

Now there is too much speculation for small apartment. It's quite big and it has 2 bedrooms. It has 850 sqft.

Mandatory isolation or quarantine – Travel restrictions in Canada – Travel.gc.ca

"Quarantine and isolation plans are evaluated by government representatives at the border to determine whether they’re suitable. This includes the risk to public health and the health and safety of those staying at the place of quarantine."

However, there is still no exact description which is annoying me. Let us see what the college says

 

[canuck78]

In my opinion the website is not specific enough. Like @studentfrompoland said, there is too much room for interpretation. And I know you could probably save some money while being in your buddy's apartment but I'd book something else just to be on the safe side even if it costs you 300$ more.

Check back with your college

It is very unclear and certain provinces are much more strict. For example in Nova Scotia they are very clear that you can only quarantine with the people you travelled with. If his friend is unwilling to remain at home for 14 days it isn't an option. He also has to consent to the option because with one bathroom he is very likely to get covid if you get it.

 

[studentfrompoland]

It is very unclear and certain provinces are much more strict. For example in Nova Scotia they are very clear that you can only quarantine with the people you travelled with. If his friend is unwilling to remain at home for 14 days it isn't an option. He also has to consent to the option because with one bathroom he is very likely to get covid if you get it.

but what about the negative PCR test during my hotel quarantine. I should be fine then to quarantine the remaining 11 days in the room alone. It's really unclear unfortunately

 

[canuck78]

Now there is too much speculation for small apartment. It's quite big and it has 2 bedrooms. It has 850 sqft.

Mandatory isolation or quarantine – Travel restrictions in Canada – Travel.gc.ca

"Quarantine and isolation plans are evaluated by government representatives at the border to determine whether they’re suitable. This includes the risk to public health and the health and safety of those staying at the place of quarantine."

However, there is still no exact description which is annoying me. Let us see what the college says

This is Canada, 850sq ft is a small apartment especially when there is only 1 bathroom. The college has no real say after Feb 22 but you can certainly ask them. It will be their interpretation as well.

 

[canuck78]

but what about the negative PCR test during my hotel quarantine. I should be fine then to quarantine the remaining 11 days in the room alone. It's really unclear unfortunately

First of all unless you are not planning on having a shower or using the washroom you aren't only remaining in your room. Even after a negative PCR you could still get covid although it is less likely. Whether your friend is willing to remain home for 14 days may be the deciding factor.

 

[studentfrompoland]

First of all unless you are not planning on having a shower or using the washroom you aren't only remaining in your room. Even after a negative PCR you could still get covid although it is less likely. Whether your friend is willing to remain home for 14 days may be the deciding factor.

Mhh.. tricky situation.. I don't want to risk it for the biscuit, I can ask him for consent. I've seen on their website that is possible with a consent form