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journey21

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No.

It's clearly stated in the assessment result that WES accredited to the level of Bachelor's Degree.
Taken from his reply:

CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY:

Bachelor's degree

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So for him to put anything else other than what is stated in the assessment will constitute misrepresentation,
which will be discovered by CIC later and carries a very heavy penalty as we all know.
 

pranaEE2015

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Dec 6, 2014
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Category........
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19/01/2016
Doc's Request.
20/01/2016
Nomination.....
18-11-2015
AOR Received.
19/01/2016
IELTS Request
L-9, R-9, S-7.5, W-7
Med's Request
20/01/2016
Med's Done....
21/01/2016
Passport Req..
26/04/2016
journey21 said:
No.

It's clearly stated in the assessment result that WES accredited to the level of Bachelor's Degree.
Taken from his reply:

CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY:

Bachelor's degree

-----------------------

So for him to put anything else other than what is stated in the assessment will constitute misrepresentation,
which will be discovered by CIC later and carries a very heavy penalty as we all know.
Dear journey21,

The points for Level of education are allotted as below:
If not accompanied by a spouse/ common law partner
◦(v) 120 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of three years or more,
◦(vi) 128 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more.....

If accompanied by a spouse/ common law partner
◦(v) 112 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of three years or more,
◦(vi) 119 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more......

reference http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/mi/express-entry.asp

So, @betorocks qualifies to get the points for 'two or more post-secondary program credentials..' as he got both his qualifications assessed. And since only the highest Canadian equivalent degree is mentioned in the report (meaning his two degrees combined do not equal one Masters and hence he should not claim points for masters level), But since he has 2 post secondary credentials, both evaluated at Canadian counterparts, he should get the extra points.

Had he not got his diploma assessed, in that case he should have claimed points only for one post secondary credential i.e. bachelor's.

Hope I clarified well.
+1 for the effort, if you found this helpful!
 

betorocks

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Oct 29, 2014
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pranaEE2015 said:
Dear journey21,

The points for Level of education are allotted as below:
If not accompanied by a spouse/ common law partner
◦(v) 120 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of three years or more,
◦(vi) 128 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more.....

If accompanied by a spouse/ common law partner
◦(v) 112 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of three years or more,
◦(vi) 119 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials and at least one of them was issued at the completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more......

reference http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/mi/express-entry.asp

So, @ betorocks qualifies to get the points for 'two or more post-secondary program credentials..' as he got both his qualifications assessed. And since only the highest Canadian equivalent degree is mentioned in the report (meaning his two degrees combined do not equal one Masters and hence he should not claim points for masters level), But since he has 2 post secondary credentials, both evaluated at Canadian counterparts, he should get the extra points.

Had he not got his diploma assessed, in that case he should have claimed points only for one post secondary credential i.e. bachelor's.

Hope I clarified well.
+1 for the effort, if you found this helpful!

perfect!,

now, when I'm updating the form, should I insert a new line with the other degree? or since one is a complement of the other should I just modify the existing line with the 2 or more credentials.

+1 to you for your help!
 

pranaEE2015

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Dec 6, 2014
88
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Category........
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19/01/2016
Doc's Request.
20/01/2016
Nomination.....
18-11-2015
AOR Received.
19/01/2016
IELTS Request
L-9, R-9, S-7.5, W-7
Med's Request
20/01/2016
Med's Done....
21/01/2016
Passport Req..
26/04/2016
betorocks said:
perfect!,

now, when I'm updating the form, should I insert a new line with the other degree? or since one is a complement of the other should I just modify the existing line with the 2 or more credentials.

+1 to you for your help!
I do not exactly remember how the education form was presented. But I remember entering details for my bachelors and masters and claiming points for masters (obviously mentioning the WES reference number there). So, you should too have both your diploma and bachelor details entered and then claim points for two or more post secondary credentials (and the WES reference number remains unchanged). Update the form and transmit it to get the new score.

All the best!
 

betorocks

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Oct 29, 2014
77
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pranaEE2015 said:
I do not exactly remember how the education form was presented. But I remember entering details for my bachelors and masters and claiming points for masters (obviously mentioning the WES reference number there). So, you should too have both your diploma and bachelor details entered and then claim points for two or more post secondary credentials (and the WES reference number remains unchanged). Update the form and transmit it to get the new score.

All the best!
thanks that was 19 points more, and to me, that was a reeeeally necessary jeje
 

pranaEE2015

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Dec 6, 2014
88
20
Category........
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19/01/2016
Doc's Request.
20/01/2016
Nomination.....
18-11-2015
AOR Received.
19/01/2016
IELTS Request
L-9, R-9, S-7.5, W-7
Med's Request
20/01/2016
Med's Done....
21/01/2016
Passport Req..
26/04/2016
betorocks said:
thanks that was 19 points more, and to me, that was a reeeeally necessary jeje
How come 19 points more? Have you updated your profile?
120 -> 128
112 -> 119
 

betorocks

Star Member
Oct 29, 2014
77
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pranaEE2015 said:
How come 19 points more? Have you updated your profile?
120 -> 128
112 -> 119
Plus the transferability points....

The only thing I need is to pass my listening from 7.5 to 8 to score celpip 9 on all skills and thus, get 25+ points for transferability
 

pranaEE2015

Star Member
Dec 6, 2014
88
20
Category........
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19/01/2016
Doc's Request.
20/01/2016
Nomination.....
18-11-2015
AOR Received.
19/01/2016
IELTS Request
L-9, R-9, S-7.5, W-7
Med's Request
20/01/2016
Med's Done....
21/01/2016
Passport Req..
26/04/2016
betorocks said:
Plus the transferability points....

The only thing I need is to pass my listening from 7.5 to 8 to score celpip 9 on all skills and thus, get 25+ points for transferability
Oh yes, I forgot about the transferability factors!!

Good luck for your CELPIP!!
 

Mani_1

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Aug 11, 2019
59
5
WES evaluated Masters of Science (2years) as Postgraduate Diploma (1 year).
Are there chances to get evaluation as Master if I try other ECA Institutions listed on EE site?
 

Wotsit

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Dec 14, 2019
652
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Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
7271
App. Filed.......
13-02-2020
Nomination.....
29-01-2020
AOR Received.
13-02-2020
Med's Done....
17-03-2020
Passport Req..
15-10-2020
VISA ISSUED...
01-12-2021
LANDED..........
03-12-2021
It's possible, I have read of different results coming from other ECA services.
Be aware WES is by far the fastest service, you might be waiting over 6 months for an ECA report from one of the others.
 

Mani_1

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Aug 11, 2019
59
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It's possible, I have read of different results coming from other ECA services.
Be aware WES is by far the fastest service, you might be waiting over 6 months for an ECA report from one of the others.
oh! Worth a try already in pool waiting is little inevitable
Which services comes at second place in this case?:)
 

Wotsit

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Dec 14, 2019
652
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Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
7271
App. Filed.......
13-02-2020
Nomination.....
29-01-2020
AOR Received.
13-02-2020
Med's Done....
17-03-2020
Passport Req..
15-10-2020
VISA ISSUED...
01-12-2021
LANDED..........
03-12-2021
These are the current advertised wait times for the other services.
CES 12 weeks
ICES 20 weeks
ICAS 30 week
IQAS currently not accepting
Good luck and let us know how you get on :)