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Fraya

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Hi there, I am an international student and i applied my PGWP already! Since the processing time is crazy right now, we should do something to change this situation! I already sent emails to immigration minister and mayor of Toronto, and hope they can offer us some help on the WP processing. I believe we have the right to work in Canada after we graduate, because this is the original purpose of PGWP. Thus, we should take some actions now! I just lost a job offer this Monday, and, as far as I know, many people are experiencing the same situation like me! :mad: Indeed, refugees need help, but we need help too. We also need job to support ourselves and our family. Friends, we should do something right now! I already wrote to the immigration office and the Mayor to let them know that we are suffering now. If you have a facebook account, please post some comments on immigration office or the Mayor. If you don't want to disclose yourself, please write a letter to them. I believe this action can make difference! If any one of you have a better idea, please let me know! Good luck on our PGWP applications!
 

J5M

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Hi,


Fraya said:
Hi there, I am an international student and i applied my PGWP already! Since the processing time is crazy right now, we should do something to change this situation! I already sent emails to immigration minister and mayor of Toronto, and hope they can offer us some help on the WP processing. I believe we have the right to work in Canada after we graduate, because this is the original purpose of PGWP. Thus, we should take some actions now! I just lost a job offer this Monday, and, as far as I know, many people are experiencing the same situation like me! :mad: Indeed, refugees need help, but we need help too. We also need job to support ourselves and our family. Friends, we should do something right now! I already wrote to the immigration office and the Mayor to let them know that we are suffering now. If you have a facebook account, please post some comments on immigration office or the Mayor. If you don't want to disclose yourself, please write a letter to them. I believe this action can make difference! If any one of you have a better idea, please let me know! Good luck on our PGWP applications!

At least rules doesn't indicate that you possess any right to work in Canada. Correct your facts. Having no PGWP has no impact on your job opportunity. All you need a valid SIN, passport and a study permit (valid/expired) to show your implied status.
 

Georgesand

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J5M said:
Hi,



At least rules doesn't indicate that you possess any right to work in Canada. Correct your facts. Having no PGWP has no impact on your job opportunity. All you need a valid SIN, passport and a study permit (valid/expired) to show your implied status.
Hello. This is interesting about implied status. If you have applied for the PGWP and use SIN, passport and the expired study permit for the implied status then you can work until the decision is made? Doesn't it mean you can work longer in Canada then?

Can this work experience during the wait time be counted for express entry?
 

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Georgesand said:
Hello. This is interesting about implied status. If you have applied for the PGWP and use SIN, passport and the expired study permit for the implied status then you can work until the decision is made? Doesn't it mean you can work longer in Canada then?

Can this work experience during the wait time be counted for express entry?
Yes - you can continue working in Canada legally until a decision is made.

Yes - this work experience counts towards Express Entry.
 

Georgesand

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scylla said:
Yes - you can continue working in Canada legally until a decision is made.

Yes - this work experience counts towards Express Entry.
Thank you Scylla! That means the longer you wait for CIC to give you the PGWP, the more experience you have for Express Entry as long as you can are employed! :D :D :D :D


Another question for those who have experienced this before. The length of the PGWP starts from the day the decision is made or the day you apply? Thank you everyone :D
 

J5M

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Georgesand said:
Thank you Scylla! That means the longer you wait for CIC to give you the PGWP, the more experience you have for Express Entry as long as you can are employed! :D :D :D :D


Another question for those who have experienced this before. The length of the PGWP starts from the day the decision is made or the day you apply? Thank you everyone :D

Starts from the day decision is made.
 

Fraya

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J5M said:
Hi,



At least rules doesn't indicate that you possess any right to work in Canada. Correct your facts. Having no PGWP has no impact on your job opportunity. All you need a valid SIN, passport and a study permit (valid/expired) to show your implied status.
Just confirmed with CIC, we international students cannot work under transitioning period! We changed our permit category (switch from student permit to work permit), so we are not allowed to work! However, the students who hold the off-compus work permit can continue to work! In addition, a valid work permit do make difference on the decision of employers!
 

Georgesand

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Fraya said:
Just confirmed with CIC, we international students cannot work under transitioning period! We changed our permit category (switch from student permit to work permit), so we are not allowed to work! However, the students who hold the off-compus work permit can continue to work! In addition, a valid work permit do make difference on the decision of employers!
It is not an off-campus work permit. It is a study permit allowing to work off-campus. Most international students who are enrolled full-time will be issued a study permit stating that they can work part-time up to 20 hours/ full time during summer. In this case, they will be eligible for implied status.

I do agree that most employers will prefer the actual work permit though.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Fraya said:
Just confirmed with CIC, we international students cannot work under transitioning period! We changed our permit category (switch from student permit to work permit), so we are not allowed to work! However, the students who hold the off-compus work permit can continue to work! In addition, a valid work permit do make difference on the decision of employers!
Incorrect, as per IRPA regulation 186. You are making an issue out of nothing.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-186.html

186. A foreign national may work in Canada without a work permit

(v) if they are the holder of a study permit and

(i) they are a full-time student enrolled at a designated learning institution as defined in section 211.1,

(ii) the program in which they are enrolled is a post-secondary academic, vocational or professional training program, or a vocational training program at the secondary level offered in Quebec, in each case, of a duration of six months or more that leads to a degree, diploma or certificate, and

(iii) although they are permitted to engage in full-time work during a regularly scheduled break between academic sessions, they work no more than 20 hours per week during a regular academic session; or

(w) if they are or were the holder of a study permit who has completed their program of study and

(i) they met the requirements set out in paragraph (v), and

(ii) they applied for a work permit before the expiry of that study permit and a decision has not yet been made in respect of their application.

 

Fraya

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canuck_in_uk said:
Incorrect, as per IRPA regulation 186. You are making an issue out of nothing.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-186.html

186. A foreign national may work in Canada without a work permit

(v) if they are the holder of a study permit and

(i) they are a full-time student enrolled at a designated learning institution as defined in section 211.1,

(ii) the program in which they are enrolled is a post-secondary academic, vocational or professional training program, or a vocational training program at the secondary level offered in Quebec, in each case, of a duration of six months or more that leads to a degree, diploma or certificate, and

(iii) although they are permitted to engage in full-time work during a regularly scheduled break between academic sessions, they work no more than 20 hours per week during a regular academic session; or

(w) if they are or were the holder of a study permit who has completed their program of study and

(i) they met the requirements set out in paragraph (v), and

(ii) they applied for a work permit before the expiry of that study permit and a decision has not yet been made in respect of their application.


Yes, indeed, I did asked them this question, because I want to work! But they replied me that since I am not a full time student right now! I am not eligible to work off-compus without a work permit!
 

J5M

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canuck_in_uk said:
Incorrect, as per IRPA regulation 186. You are making an issue out of nothing.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-186.html

186. A foreign national may work in Canada without a work permit

(v) if they are the holder of a study permit and

(i) they are a full-time student enrolled at a designated learning institution as defined in section 211.1,

(ii) the program in which they are enrolled is a post-secondary academic, vocational or professional training program, or a vocational training program at the secondary level offered in Quebec, in each case, of a duration of six months or more that leads to a degree, diploma or certificate, and

(iii) although they are permitted to engage in full-time work during a regularly scheduled break between academic sessions, they work no more than 20 hours per week during a regular academic session; or

(w) if they are or were the holder of a study permit who has completed their program of study and

(i) they met the requirements set out in paragraph (v), and

(ii) they applied for a work permit before the expiry of that study permit and a decision has not yet been made in respect of their application.


Agreed.
 

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It also says the same thing on CIC PGWP page as well: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/students/post-grad.asp

Note: Paragraph R186(w) allows students who have completed their program of study to work while they are waiting for a decision on their work permit application as long as they were a full-time student enrolled at a designated learning institution in a post-secondary academic, vocational or professional training program, and they did not exceed the allowable hours of work.


The immigration advisor at my university also confirmed this.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Fraya said:
Yes, indeed, I did asked them this question, because I want to work! But they replied me that since I am not a full time student right now! I am not eligible to work off-compus without a work permit!
The CIC call centre is staffed by poorly trained people who very often give out incorrect information. As per the law, you can work.
 

betteka

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Fraya said:
Hi there, I am an international student and i applied my PGWP already! Since the processing time is crazy right now, we should do something to change this situation! I already sent emails to immigration minister and mayor of Toronto, and hope they can offer us some help on the WP processing. I believe we have the right to work in Canada after we graduate, because this is the original purpose of PGWP. Thus, we should take some actions now! I just lost a job offer this Monday, and, as far as I know, many people are experiencing the same situation like me! :mad: Indeed, refugees need help, but we need help too. We also need job to support ourselves and our family. Friends, we should do something right now! I already wrote to the immigration office and the Mayor to let them know that we are suffering now. If you have a facebook account, please post some comments on immigration office or the Mayor. If you don't want to disclose yourself, please write a letter to them. I believe this action can make difference! If any one of you have a better idea, please let me know! Good luck on our PGWP applications!
I like your call for actions! Any responses from minister and mayor of Toronto?