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Wasting my PR (and money)?

cecapp14

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May 7, 2014
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Hi all,

due to the crisis that is striking the Canadian oil&gas market, after a long search I have not been able to find a job in Canada. On the contrary I got a new job in Europe and as soon as the experience with my current employer in Canada will be over (very soon), I will move back to Europe to start a new life.

This situation for me means that currently I don't know if I will ever come back to Canada.
Even though I was aware of this, last week I did my medicals since I didn't want to shut doors on my future.
The idea is that I will still have 3 years after my PR to decide if I like what I will be doing in Europe and see what the boundaries condition will be before taking the last in or out decision.

My questions now are:
1. In some weeks I will move out of Canada and I will change the address. I own an apartment in my home country, but I will be there just for few weeks before to move to my final destination. What should I do with CIC? Should I wait until I know my "final" address or is better I communicate my home country address as soon as I am out of Canada, and communicate another change when I will be fully set in my new location?

2. What will happen with my application? I mean, supposed that the medicals are ok the next step should be the passport request and so on. Do I need to send my passport to Canada?

3. At a certain time I will be asked to pay the landing fees, right? What is your suggestion? To pay now or wait to see if I will ever see the need to come to Canada as permanent resident? (This connect to question 4).

4. If I will finally get the PR, should I land straightaway or I can wait until I will realize what I want to do with my PR?

5. What are the legal implication if I will not be able to complete my 2 out of 5 years in Canada?

6. Should I quit my PR to avoid problems? :eek:

As you see I have a lot of doubts now which I would have preferred to do not have. But these are the things of life that I could not contro and I was not able to foresee until few weeks ago.

Any suggestion or opinion is welcome.
Thanks!
 

maxmoore

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1 - You are allowed to change your address many times, so I would encourage you to notify CIC with both your home-country address firstly and your final destination later unless the transition from one place to another takes place in just a matter of a few days / weeks which doesn't make sense.
2 - If you have a valid european passport, you won't receive passport request. They will mail you your CoPR to your home address.
3 - Pay the fee if they ask for or do it upfront, up to you.
4 - You have 1 year to land after getting your CoPR, or before your Medical Examination expires or your Passport expires. Whatever comes first.
5 - You won't be eligible for renewal and you will lose your status.
6 - No. Don't close any doors behind you!.
 

jes_ON

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It may be easier to pay the RPRF while you're still in Canada, but be sure you want the PR before you do, because getting a refund can take some time.

When you receive your COPR, it will indicate the date by which you must land. It can vary a bit from person to person, because of things like medicals expiring...

If you get your PR status and don't complete the 5 years, you just won't be able to renew it, no other legal ramifications. If you decide you want to come back, you'll be starting over with the work permits etc.

Not sure what problems you would anticipate...?
 

cecapp14

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May 7, 2014
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Thanks guys.

One thing I didn't get: the RPRF shall be paid as soon as requested to do or payment can be hold, the process freezes and restarts when I'll pay? I think is not possible, right?

Jes, why you say may be easier to pay the RPRF when I am in Canada?

I was asking about the legal implication because some time ago I read an article where this guy was not living in Canada after the PR, and was having hard times to come back here because they were refusing to issue a visa. Any idea?
 

jes_ON

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cecapp14 said:
Jes, why you say may be easier to pay the RPRF when I am in Canada?
Ah, maybe not, now that you can pay online (before online payment, people sometimes had trouble getting certified checks/bank drafts in Canadian dollars from other countries...)
 

lau2014

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sorry guys few questions:
maxmoore said:
1 - You are allowed to change your address many times, so I would encourage you to notify CIC with both your home-country address firstly and your final destination later unless the transition from one place to another takes place in just a matter of a few days / weeks which doesn't make sense. In this case, is CIC sending the application to other office? and is there any difference if the application is made through a Canadian lawyer?
2 - If you have a valid european passport, you won't receive passport request. They will mail you your CoPR to your home address. They are not asking for the European Passport? so, at this point, is the procedure different for European citizen?
 

pfse

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lau2014 said:
sorry guys few questions:
maxmoore said:
1 - You are allowed to change your address many times, so I would encourage you to notify CIC with both your home-country address firstly and your final destination later unless the transition from one place to another takes place in just a matter of a few days / weeks which doesn't make sense. In this case, is CIC sending the application to other office? and is there any difference if the application is made through a Canadian lawyer?
2 - If you have a valid european passport, you won't receive passport request. They will mail you your CoPR to your home address. They are not asking for the European Passport? so, at this point, is the procedure different for European citizen?
1. Changing address:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/change-address.asp

Note: if you have an immigration application in process and a representative on file (paid or unpaid), the mailing address in your file will stay your representative's address.

2. "Procedure" is the same, but people from visa-exempt countries will not receive PPR (as they don't need visa stamp in passport).
 

lau2014

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pfse said:
thanks for your answer but

1. Changing address:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/change-address.asp

Note: if you have an immigration application in process and a representative on file (paid or unpaid), the mailing address in your file will stay your representative's address. Are they sending the procedure to the Canadian embassy, high commission or consulate responsible for the región of my new residence, keeping my representative's address? I'm concerned because I have to let them know that now I'm living in panamá and the country responsable for Panama is Mexico!! I want to avoid any further delays.

2. "Procedure" is the same, but people from visa-exempt countries will not receive PPR (as they don't need visa stamp in passport).
 

jes_ON

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Look, you've hijacked someone else's thread and not provided enough information about your own case, responders are going to be confused.

- CEC applications are processed in Ottawa, not overseas, regardless of where you live.

- You apparently have a representative in Canada. You can notify CIC about your change of address, but unless you cancel your representative, communications will go to him/her.

- Without knowing your country of citizenship and/or whether you are from a visa-exempt country, we don't know if you will get a passport request. (a) If you do get a passport request (via your representative), you can simply send your passport to Ottawa for stamping. Exceptions are for citizens of India (possibly others), for whom it is illegal to mail a passport. (b) if you are from a visa-exempt country, CIC will simply send the COPR to your representative. Either way, there is (usually) no reason to request a change of visa office (and it will not happen automatically - at least, it should not).
 

lau2014

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jes_ON said:
Look, you've hijacked someone else's thread and not provided enough information about your own case, responders are going to be confused. sorry :( BTW I'm Italian

- CEC applications are processed in Ottawa, not overseas, regardless of where you live.

- You apparently have a representative in Canada. You can notify CIC about your change of address, but unless you cancel your representative, communications will go to him/her.

- Without knowing your country of citizenship and/or whether you are from a visa-exempt country, we don't know if you will get a passport request. (a) If you do get a passport request (via your representative), you can simply send your passport to Ottawa for stamping. Exceptions are for citizens of India (possibly others), for whom it is illegal to mail a passport. (b) if you are from a visa-exempt country, CIC will simply send the COPR to your representative. Either way, there is (usually) no reason to request a change of visa office (and it will not happen automatically - at least, it should not).
 

jes_ON

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So, you are visa-exempt. IF/when your application is finalized, your representative will receive the COPR, and can simply courrier it to you. Not complicated : ) No need to worry about changing visa offices...
 

lau2014

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jes_ON said:
So, you are visa-exempt. IF/when your application is finalized, your representative will receive the COPR, and can simply courrier it to you. Not complicated : ) No need to worry about changing visa offices...
Thanks a lot, this is a good news!!!! :)