was slow to order option c, police certificate will expire. separate packages?

[Kanada_San]

I've been advised that if absolutely necessary, i may attach a letter to my application package explaining why my option C will be sent later (most likely 1-2 weeks) than the rest of the application.

Is this a common occurrence? will the people processing my application be understanding and put it on hold until the option C arrives? is it possible they will refuse the application?

Thank you.

Kanada_San

 

[screech339]

I've been advised that if absolutely necessary, i may attach a letter to my application package explaining why my option C will be sent later (most likely 1-2 weeks) than the rest of the application.

Is this a common occurrence? will the people processing my application be understanding and put it on hold until the option C arrives? is it possible they will refuse the application?

Thank you.

Kanada_San

If applying inland or outland, you may need to redo police report if it almost expiring. Police reports only valid for CIC 3 months after it is issued, despite it saying valid for 1 year.

I haven't seen any case of people not submitting Option C printout only to say that they have not been working in Canada thus cannot get Option C. This usually applies if they are applying outland and Canadian spouse/common law is living overseas with the applicant. If you have been working in Canada, it is best to have option C included. CIC will want to know if you have been on social assistance or not. This is part of the 1st stage assessment. Without Option C printout without a good explanation, especially if you are in Canada and have been working in Canada and filing taxes, may be ground for "incomplete application".

 

[rhcohen2014]

if the police record is still valid when you get your option c form, i would still send it and include a note saying you will order a new one if necessary. generally, for outland the Option C needs to be in the original package for the sponsor's application to process. if it's not, it will delay sponsor approval, and most likely they won't process the sponsor's application until they get it - assuming the sponsor lives in Canada. Not submitting a police record won't delay sponsor approval, as it's not needed until the application gets to the visa office.

My recommendation is to wait for the option c, and send it all together with the expiring police record. When i sent in my application, my police record was set to expire within DAYS of CIC receiving it, and i was never asked for another one, so even if it's close to expiring, it still may be considered valid to CIC.

 

[screech339]

Close to expiring doesn't mean swat to CIC. Police reports are valid for 3 months period. It is still valid if CIC received it 1 day before it expires. It is either valid or it is not. As long as CIC gets it within before 3 months are up, it's fine.

 

[scylla]

Close to expiring doesn't mean swat to CIC. Police reports are valid for 3 months period. It is still valid if CIC received it 1 day before it expires. It is either valid or it is not. As long as CIC gets it within before 3 months are up, it's fine.

This is the rule - but in practice that's not always what happens. My husband had to submit several PCCs. We couldn't get one at all (for valid reasons). And one of the PCCs we did provide was 5 months old when it reached CIC. They accepted it and his application was processed in 4 months. So they do make exceptions. How often they make exceptions is anyone's guess.

 

[Kanada_San]

I've been informed by a cic agent over the phone that the police cert only needs to by valid as of mailing it, so i'm not too worried about mailing a soon to expire police cert. The issue is it would take 3-5 months to get a replacement police cert. they don't mind if it's not technically valid on arrival since mailing times can vary so much, is basically what was told to me.

the option c will arrive a day later than the police cert is good for at the earliest, so the packages wouldn't be too far apart.. if they were to be understanding, to you think it'd delay the application by more than 5 months?

Thanks for your responses everybody. You are very kind.

 

[Kayaker]

The problem is that if your application arrives in 2 separate packages, in an office that gets maybe dozens or hundreds of applications on a daily basis, how are they going to put the two pieces of the puzzle together? Theoretically they CAN try to match you up by name and address and whatnot. But that would require some time and effort, to find one incomplete application and one Option C to match each other amongst thousands of applications.

If you are lucky, your application will be only delayed by a few weeks while they try to match the pieces together.

If you are not lucky, they will mail back the application to you after a few weeks for being incomplete. In that case, you will have to apply for a new Police Certificate anyway, and you will have to update all your forms.

I guess in your shoes, I would wait until the Option C comes, and mail everything together, with the expired Police Certificates. At the same time, I will apply for new Police Certificates, so that CIC can complete Sponsor Approval (stage 1) (takes a couple of months now, I think) and send your application to your Visa Office. You Visa Office will require a new Police Certificate, so you can send it to them then. After Sponsor Approval, you will have a File Number, so you can send your Police Certificate and they will be able to add it to your file as soon as they receive it. (And there's a small chance they won't ask for new Police Certificates, if they are only a few days expired.)