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Bryanna

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Firstly, thanks for your help, it is very much appreciated. He is paid via bank noted Salary and gratuity paid via bank under someones name. They do not provide salary slips but it is noted on his bank statements. He does NOT file income tax returns and does not get pension or medical insurance. Any holidays has just been for holidays. His 3 investments are Mutual Funds over 4 thousand Canadian dollars which he can take out anytime but maybe a penalty . Since they deal with so much cash in india and bank transfers are easier a lot of slips are missing. His family is going to Mumbai in June for a wedding and he did pay for all of their travel and it shows it on his bank statements.
My advice:
1. The chances of your boyfriend getting a TRV are quite low as he has a weak application. He does not have any strong ties to India + the employment tie he has is not convincing.

2. If you choose to reapply, you must prepare his application from a visa officer's perspective.... and check there are no gaps in the evidence/no explanations required.

3. The damage has been done in his previous application. So, it needs to be undone (if it can be undone). IMO, it would be best to wait for a few months until he can establish stronger ties before he reapplies instead of risking another TRV refusal.


If you reapply:
1. For his boat employment: Employment letter + a leave approval letter + a salary statement issued by HR for the last 6 months stating tax deductions and net salary + 6 months bank statements to prove salary transfers + emails from his employer.

The letter from his employer must state his work responsibilities + what work he does during off-season (monsoons). He must also include evidence that he must be back by a specific date (not the July thingy) for a scheduled boat trip.

I'm pretty sure the visa officer will not buy the reason that he must return by July to manage boat trips. Boat trips on the Ganges may not be possible in July-August due to flooding.

An aside:
I have done considerable high-altitude/ lower altitude trekking in the Himalayas.... some of it, from the source of the Ganges glacier to lower levels where the Ganges reaches the upper plains + white water rafting (medium grades). Even in off-monsoon/winter months, I have been in awe at the swiftness and the high-volume of water with which the Ganges flows.

The Ganges floods its banks in the monsoons. It is a nightmare to be on a boat in the monsoons.


2. For his second employment: Again, the works.... employment letter + leave approval letter + 6 months salary slips/salary statement, etc etc

He must include an explanation how he is able to manage both jobs. Hope his boat employment letter does not state he cannot work anywhere else.


3. For his finances: 6 months bank statements of all three bank accounts + 2 years Income Tax Returns + copies of the mutual funds (he cannot include this as available funds for his visit).

He must file his income tax returns. This will confirm that he is paid the salary he claims + it will confirm his bank balance and investments.


4. For family ties: Evidence they live together at the same address + highlight the bank transactions for the June wedding payments (and if he bought flight tickets for his family then prints of the tickets) + evidence of payments for any other reason (utility bills, etc)

5. He must draw up a day-by-day detailed itinerary of what he plans to do during his visit with expense estimates. And, prove that he can pay for this itinerary + airfare.

6. Do be careful about the choice of words in the invitation letter. IMO, it must not appear that he is desperate to visit Canada.


To a visa officer, as you have already visited him quite a few times, there's no need for him to visit you. It could incorrectly imply that he is visiting to marry you and file an inland PR app


Cheers
 
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Firsttimer123

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Thank you sooo very much for your detailed suggestions, it is really very appreciated.
We are including 6 months salary statements
6 months of bank statements x 3 banks
3 mutual investments
Work schedule with start back date and all dates there after.
Contributions to his pension from his employer.
Employer letter with all details.
Invitation letter-very professional
An invitation addressed to the both of us with his name on the envelope, is that a negative?
Cover letter
Itinerary
He is paying for this flight but I am going to cover his expenses here.
I did buy his a return ticket for the visa as most of them are non-refundable.
Tickets he paid for his family for travel to wedding
Materials he bought for his brothers house.
All of my info, NOAs, mortgage, car etc....

Thank you, you are most extremely helpful and thank you for your time.
 

Firsttimer123

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Thank you sooo very much for your detailed suggestions, it is really very appreciated.
We are including 6 months salary statements
6 months of bank statements x 3 banks
3 mutual investments
Work schedule with start back date and all dates there after.
Contributions to his pension from his employer.
Employer letter with all details.
Invitation letter-very professional
An invitation addressed to the both of us with his name on the envelope, is that a negative?
Cover letter
Itinerary
He is paying for this flight but I am going to cover his expenses here.
I did buy his a return ticket for the visa as most of them are non-refundable.
Tickets he paid for his family for travel to wedding
Materials he bought for his brothers house.
All of my info, NOAs, mortgage, car etc....

Thank you, you are most extremely helpful and thank you for your time.

Also, here is a link to his job:
You can see dates starting in July, they do run!
http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/expeditions/ganges-river-northern-india-tour/detail
 

Bryanna

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Also, here is a link to his job:
You can see dates starting in July, they do run!
http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/expeditions/ganges-river-northern-india-tour/detail
This expedition is different from what you had mentioned earlier as it involves a lot of non-river based activity/ land trips in Delhi/ Agra/ Rajasthan, etc.

I thought you are referring to the *Ganges* = the river which flows through the upper/middle reaches + which regularly floods in the monsoons. In/around Kolkata, the river is the most sluggish/slowest moving.

In fact, near Kolkata/ Serampore/ Barrackpore/ Chinsurah, etc (where the boat cruise is), it isn't even the Ganges but the Hoogly River.... or in Kalna (the boat cruise route again) it is called the Bhagirathi River.... and not the Ganges. Anyways

As your boyfriend works for NatGeo, it should be even more easier to convince the visa officer about his employment
 

Firsttimer123

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I am so belong impressed by your extreme knowledge! Thanks you!
He actually doesn't work for NatGeo, he works for the company that hires NatGeo for the tours.
He only does the Boat portion (So not Delhi or Agra). However, he is responsible for the land tours.
Really he is responsible for everything.
We unfortunately didn't establish strong ties the first time so I am really searching for ways to do that.
You can see, he has to go back. Nothing will function without him and working under an umbrella like NatGeo is huge.
I'm so grateful, thank you.
 

Bryanna

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I am so belong impressed by your extreme knowledge! Thanks you!
He actually doesn't work for NatGeo, he works for the company that hires NatGeo for the tours.
He only does the Boat portion (So not Delhi or Agra). However, he is responsible for the land tours.
Really he is responsible for everything.
We unfortunately didn't establish strong ties the first time so I am really searching for ways to do that.
You can see, he has to go back. Nothing will function without him and working under an umbrella like NatGeo is huge.
I'm so grateful, thank you.
I enjoy traveling and that helps :)

IMO, he must include:
1. An employment letter (not the typical approval of leave letter) which lists his responsibilities + he manages a team of 24 employees + the scheduled boat trip in July + this boat trip will be conducted for NatGeo + of course, leave approval

2. 6 months' salary statement issued by his employer (not salary slips)

3. Include the website URL and prints of the same link that you had posted for the NatGeo expedition + an explanation about which section of the trip will be managed by your boyfriend

4. Is there any direct correspondence/or he has been cc'ed on emails between NatGeo and his employer.... not just for the July trip but a recently completed trip?

5. He must file his tax returns (even retrospective for the previous year)

6. Your boyfriend must demonstrate he has dependent family. Any other evidence for this apart from the flight ticket payments for the June wedding in Mumbai? For example, he pays for their medical insurance or medical treatment, or he has paid for home renovations, or he is paying the tuition fees for a sibling, etc.


To a visa officer, the word *boyfriend* conjectures up images of a potential over stayer/ someone who is financially dependent on the Canadian host/ someone who will file for an inland PR.

You had submitted a lot of relationship evidence earlier which has unfortunately scuttled his chances of getting a TRV.


Two other bits of advice:
1. Hope you don't mind me saying this: If you yourself do not believe that your boyfriend has reasons to return home then how can you convince the visa officer? You must believe that you will be successful despite the odds.

I have been suggesting several ways/documents to make his application stronger. Do follow through with it. It might just work.

2. Another suggestion: If you include evidence that you must leave Canada at the end of your boyfriend's visit then his chances of staying back are slim. For example, you have work commitments or a holiday outside Canada
 
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Firsttimer123

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I enjoy traveling and that helps :)

IMO, he must include:
1. An employment letter (not the typical approval of leave letter) which lists his responsibilities + he manages a team of 24 employees + the scheduled boat trip in July + this boat trip will be conducted for NatGeo + of course, leave approval

2. 6 months' salary statement issued by his employer (not salary slips)

3. Include the website URL and prints of the same link that you had posted for the NatGeo expedition + an explanation about which section of the trip will be managed by your boyfriend

4. Is there any direct correspondence/or he has been cc'ed on emails between NatGeo and his employer.... not just for the July trip but a recently completed trip?

5. He must file his tax returns (even retrospective for the previous year)

6. Your boyfriend must demonstrate he has dependent family. Any other evidence for this apart from the flight ticket payments for the June wedding in Mumbai? For example, he pays for their medical insurance or medical treatment, or he has paid for home renovations, or he is paying the tuition fees for a sibling, etc.


To a visa officer, the word *boyfriend* conjectures up images of a potential over stayer/ someone who is financially dependent on the Canadian host/ someone who will file for an inland PR.

You had submitted a lot of relationship evidence earlier which has unfortunately scuttled his chances of getting a TRV.


Two other bits of advice:
1. Hope you don't mind me saying this: If you yourself do not believe that your boyfriend has reasons to return home then how can you convince the visa officer? You must believe that you will be successful despite the odds.

I have been suggesting several ways/documents to make his application stronger. Do follow through with it. It might just work.

2. Another suggestion: If you include evidence that you must leave Canada at the end of your boyfriend's visit then his chances of staying back are slim. For example, you have work commitments or a holiday outside Canada

I Bryanna, so my boyfriend just got resumed for the second time. We did everything you suggested and used a immigration lawyer in Toronto. We only asked for 2 weeks. Again his reason was financial and ties to home country. I'm going to contact my local mp tomorrow. I'm so sad and desperate for him to visit. Can you please advise on
 

scylla

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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I Bryanna, so my boyfriend just got resumed for the second time. We did everything you suggested and used a immigration lawyer in Toronto. We only asked for 2 weeks. Again his reason was financial and ties to home country. I'm going to contact my local mp tomorrow. I'm so sad and desperate for him to visit. Can you please advise on
MPs can't change decisions. So not sure what kind of help you're hoping the MP can provide.

Did you order the application case notes after the first refusal? If not, might want to do that now to see the detailed information behind the refusals. Note it will take around 30 days for them to arrive.

Good luck.
 

Bryanna

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I guess you missed out on some suggestions. IMO (and like I've said earlier), a double overload of relationship proofs in the first application has probably scuttled his chances.

Also, any significant changes in purpose of visit and/or length of visit and/or ties could have lead to red flags.

As scylla has suggested, do order case notes