Visitor Visa Rejected - Please advise

[Bryanna]

Can you throw a bit more light on CAN+ program? Her's is a usa visitor visa ( not work permit like H1 or L1) Why do you say 'in first instance' - is it possible i look at it now? Thank you.

Indian citizens who have traveled to the US/Canada in the last 10 years may be eligible to apply for a Canada TRV under the CAN+ program.... advantages include fewer documents and faster processing.

The link is: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=874&t=16

As your MIL has had a TRV refusal.... one reason being 'Travel History' despite traveling to the US..... I am not quite sure if she can reapply under CAN+

 

[boltz]

Indian citizens who have traveled to the US/Canada in the last 10 years may be eligible to apply for a Canada TRV under the CAN+ program.... advantages include fewer documents and faster processing.

The link is: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=874&t=16

As your MIL has had a TRV refusal.... one reason being 'Travel History' despite traveling to the US..... I am not quite sure if she can reapply under CAN+

Byranna:
Would tourism and family visit be two distinct purposes of visit?
Can mentioning both confuse cic officer?

May be I am reading too much; but I had put both as reasons.... Would that be a part of the problem. When I mentioned I meant family reunion and taking parents in laws on touristic attractions.

 

[Bryanna]

Byranna:
Would tourism and family visit be two distinct purposes of visit?
Can mentioning both confuse cic officer?

May be I am reading too much; but I had put both as reasons.... Would that be a part of the problem. When I mentioned I meant family reunion and taking parents in laws on touristic attractions.

Hi,

No, dual/multiple reasons for a visit are not likely to confuse a visa officer.

The key issue - as I see it - is the duration of the visit which indicates lack of ties to India.... and even for the purpose indicated in your Invitation Letter, the duration cannot be justified as such. Hence, you may want to consider a visit of shorter duration.

Both your in-laws have individual/collective strong ties to India.... however, I feel they have not presented their documents + Purpose of Visit in the right way.... also they substituted evidence of their strong ties with Affidavits. If these issues are resolved then they will get their TRVs when they reapply


Cheers

 

[boltz]

Hi,

No, dual/multiple reasons for a visit are not likely to confuse a visa officer.

The key issue - as I see it - is the duration of the visit which indicates lack of ties to India.... and even for the purpose indicated in your Invitation Letter, the duration cannot be justified as such. Hence, you may want to consider a visit of shorter duration.

Both your in-laws have individual/collective strong ties to India.... however, I feel they have not presented their documents + Purpose of Visit in the right way.... also they substituted evidence of their strong ties with Affidavits. If these issues are resolved then they will get their TRVs when they reapply


Cheers

Thanks byranna.

I am thinking to reapply for my MIL alone this time - she is the one more interested. My FIL even if had come, would not have stayed for more than 1 month to 6 weeks.

So, my Q is, would this move create a threat to my MIL application in any way? Raising doubts for cic officer s mind?

Applying for her alone also comes with a reason for her to return back to join her husband.

Advise please. Thank u.

 

[yahoo7]

Re: Visitor Visa Rejected - Please help advise

Byranna, can the reapply happen immediately (2 weeks gap or so) or is there a cool off period needed?

Your comment above - where and how do the applicant demonstrate this? As part of affidavit, or letter, etc?

Documents included for each of 2 applicants (other than application forms) - 6 mths bank stmts (2-3 Lakhs final balane), notary declaration of assets valuation (however copy of property docs were NOT included), 2 years Income Tax returns copy.

My invitation letter mentioned the purpose as tourism, family reunion with their daughter son-in-law grand child ( since its over 3 years since we met last), and inviting them for 4-5 months.

My brothers in law are not financially dependent on my FIL. FIL is the head of house hold. --- I prefer to rewrite it to remove confusion if possible. Basically they have to return back to join their family and attend to their property. Unfortunately they donot have a business in my FIL's name, and is in my brother-in-law's name - though its a family business that they take care together - FIL drives this business through his sons together.

Please clarify my earlier Qs and advise next steps. Thank u.

Boltz, can you tell me how to get assets validated and notarized in India?

 

[boltz]

Re: Visitor Visa Rejected - Please help advise

Boltz, can you tell me how to get assets validated and notarized in India?

Go to any advocate; they will do.

Or go to the local sub registrar office, there will b many surrounding the office.

 

[Bryanna]

Boltz, can you tell me how to get assets validated and notarized in India?

Hi,

It is not necessary to validate/notarize proof of assets..... in fact, notarization is not required at all for any proof/evidence of any nature.

Do submit the proofs of property ownership (and other related documents), financial assets proofs, etc that we have discussed. You should be fine


Cheers

 

[Bryanna]

Thanks byranna.

I am thinking to reapply for my MIL alone this time - she is the one more interested. My FIL even if had come, would not have stayed for more than 1 month to 6 weeks.

So, my Q is, would this move create a threat to my MIL application in any way? Raising doubts for cic officer s mind?

Applying for her alone also comes with a reason for her to return back to join her husband.

Advise please. Thank u.

If your FIL is able to demonstrate his role in the family business + properties and other financial assets then I think he has a pretty good chance of getting an approval.

If you prefer to apply for your MIL alone she can show land ownership proofs + proofs of other assets + finances + your FIL along with her 2 sons/their families as the *family ties* + her US visa

By inviting your MIL without your FIL, there's no *threat* to your MIL's application in any way

 

[boltz]

If your FIL is able to demonstrate his role in the family business + properties and other financial assets then I think he has a pretty good chance of getting an approval.

If you prefer to apply for your MIL alone she can show land ownership proofs + proofs of other assets + finances + your FIL along with her 2 sons/their families as the *family ties* + her US visa

By inviting your MIL without your FIL, there's no *threat* to your MIL's application in any way

Bryanna - I encountered another hurdle.

My mil had visited USA for 5 months in 2008. Hyderabad, India >> Chicago, USA. Then return Chicago, USA >> Hyderabad India. Here, there is exit Hyderabad and entry Hyderabad stamps registered and clear on passport. The entry Chicago stamp is very very light, and only thing that can be read is "presence of *some* stamp, and SEP 2 ( for sep 28)" . It is not even showing USA immigration in it.

This is also probably the reason for marking 'travel history' as a reason for rejection (I am thinking).

Can u advise how to get out of this situation? This I think is a +ve factor for her, only if it is proven. Else forms -ve since there won't be travel history.

I checked i94 online records; they are not showing old records I suppose. I am thinking of FOIA request, however it can take very long before we receive it.

Appreciate any advise. Thank you.

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

You can scan the US B1/B2 visa + entry/exit stamps (Hyderabad airport/the US stamp even if it is blurred/light) + add the boarding passes (if available)/confirmed flight bookings..... and mention in an explanation about her Travel History (US and Thailand) including the purpose of visit

The light stamps do not negate her travel history.... she has traveled to/still holds a valid US visa..... also she is not reapplying under CAN+, hence the entry/exit stamps are not absolutely critical


Cheers

 

[JESUS2014]

Thank u so much bryanna for ur help...

 

[boltz]

Hi,

You can scan the US B1/B2 visa + entry/exit stamps (Hyderabad airport/the US stamp even if it is blurred/light) + add the boarding passes (if available)/confirmed flight bookings..... and mention in an explanation about her Travel History (US and Thailand) including the purpose of visit

The light stamps do not negate her travel history.... she has traveled to/still holds a valid US visa..... also she is not reapplying under CAN+, hence the entry/exit stamps are not absolutely critical


Cheers

Thank you Bryanna. Is it worth it to give a self-declaration notarization for this missing(not missing actually, not visible) USA entry stamp? I am confused - if yes, what kind of language can I use for this self declaration?

Please advise.

 

[Bryanna]

Thank you Bryanna. Is it worth it to give a self-declaration notarization for this missing(not missing actually, not visible) USA entry stamp? I am confused - if yes, what kind of language can I use for this self declaration?

Please advise.

Sometimes entry/exit stamps can be blurred/smudged..... and not just faintly visible

Do submit the Explanation: My Travel History (scan the US visa + entry/exit stamps + proofs of confirmed travel/flight bookings/boarding passes).... this will suffice. The US visa is still valid.

No need for a self-declaration.... if for any reason, the visa office wants to cross-check facts then they can access records from their US counterparts

Don't worry so much

 

[boltz]

Sometimes entry/exit stamps can be blurred/smudged..... and not just faintly visible

Do submit the Explanation: My Travel History (scan the US visa + entry/exit stamps + proofs of confirmed travel/flight bookings/boarding passes).... this will suffice. The US visa is still valid.

No need for a self-declaration.... if for any reason, the visa office wants to cross-check facts then they can access records from their US counterparts

Don't worry so much

Awesome. Thx. I I couldn't even find flight bookings; however I am sure of dates. I'll go by spirit of the suggestion. Thx.

 

[boltz]

The Overseas travel medical insurance policy does not help per se for the visa.... it's just a thought-out supporting document which would give you peace of mind in case of any medical emergencies.

The reason I suggested buying a policy from India is that it works out to probably 1/5th of the price compared to buying it from a Canadian insurance company..... if you choose an Indian insurer then it must have a global insurance partner


For the farmland, you can submit proofs of Land Ownership + does it fetch any income through farming + proofs (any) to show it is actively farmed(?)

You can mention about property owned with her husband.... however, if it is legally not on her name then I am not sure how it will help her

Bryanna:

Yes its actively farmed. Have the land document. Yes it fetches income. The income is declared into balance sheets that are rolled up to income tax returns each year.

How and where do I present this fact in a concise and clear manner? Appreciate any advise. Thank you.