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Visitor Visa refused- Cairo VFS Office - Bryanna&the experts I need ur Opinions.

Mina20023

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Sep 14, 2014
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So, here I am, another guy who got his visa refused , suffering it's emotional blah blah...

I would like to ask your take on this, and your opinion where did i miss:

My TRV application included: (paper based)

1. the TRV application
2. family form
3. checklist
4. round trip air ticket booking.
5. hotels booking confirmation.
6. full travel insurance.
7. Purpose of visit letter (detailing who i am, my ties, employment, my previous travels, etc..) got the advice from here.
8. itinerary of my 10 day trip, and estimates costs ( i didn't mention all the costs but like 70 to 80% of it i did)
9. Employment letter detailing everything with the leave permit.( a decent good pay job with insurance)
10. bank statement for the past 6 months (8000 CAD witha good flow in and out)
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The two reasons i got refused for is :
1. Travel history ( i have traveled to London on a uk visa in Sep 2015 ) and (I traveled to Europe for 2 weeks last feb2016)
2. Purpose of Visit (what can i do or offer to convince the consular beside my letters and bookings)
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- I have applied on 25 of july, got my Passport on the 4th of august . (pretty fast) .
- I asked for 10 days.
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I have no ties or know anyone in Canada, just i have alwayed wished to visit Montreal and Quebec city, i wanted to go in the christmas but too cold for me, so i choose September a bearable weather(also there is a 5 days natioanl holiday during my visit so i wont be taking much time off work) for my visit. i just wanted to relax from the work stress of my work( probably gonna visit europe instead). but the refusal left me feeling pretty awful and frustrated, rejection sucks guys. I don't understand much of the decision.
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I ask you Why do you think i was refused? when i apply next time what do think i should do? how soon i should apply?
next time what should i write concerning my refusal?

Thanks
Mina
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,822
22,102
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
What ties did you show other than employment?
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,136
3,122
Hi,

Sorry to hear that you were refused. Don't let it get you down. It happens to the best of applications if the paperwork is not presented properly.

You can reapply anytime. IMO, you have a good case. However, you'll need to post some more information before we can advise you.


1. What are the reasons for your visit? Your Purpose of Visit letter must explain this and not the points you stated in your post

2. What strong ties can you demonstrate to your home country?

3. Did you visit the UK and Europe to meet family/ friends? Did you scan these visas and prepare a Travel History explanation?


Cheers
 

Mina20023

Member
Sep 14, 2014
10
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Thanks scylla and Bryanna for replying in such short notice, as for your questions :

1. my ties, i mentioned my relationship with my father and that i take care of him and our home since my mom passing in 2015 ( he has in the government a manager), as wil my ties with my sister, i have no family or relatives or friends in Europe or Canada. also i have mentioned my job and it's benefits and how i have been woking there 6 years ago (i am 27) so it's pretty much after graduation., and that i have never over stayed my visa.

2. i wanted to go there for tourism and relax, just wanted to visit montreal a long time ago, but i have not build the courage till after my trips to UK and Europe .
3. i went to UK to visit London tourism as Europe too, no relative .

I think i didn't talk as much i talked about my background in the purpose of stay letter. as for travel history i take what i have read before from you ( which is nothing can be done regarding it) i will probably head to Europe for a week and later next year or idk when based on your advice to apply again, i don't like giving up it's in my dreams bucket list.

thanks again, and i feel privileged for your replies and concern.

Thanks
Mina
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,822
22,102
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
So based on what you've written - your home ties are quite weak. All you really have that's substantial is your job.

I take it you don't own any property or you would have mentioned this?
 

Mina20023

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Sep 14, 2014
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scylla said:
So based on what you've written - your home ties are quite weak. All you really have that's substantial is your job.

I take it you don't own any property or you would have mentioned this?
No, i don't own any property . i thought ff i was refused because of my weak ties to my home country , he would have checked that box in the refusal letter.

I ask for your kind advice and guidance for my next time to apply.

Mina
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,822
22,102
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Mina20023 said:
No, i don't own any property . i thought ff i was refused because of my weak ties to my home country , he would have checked that box in the refusal letter.

I ask for your kind advice and guidance for my next time to apply.

Mina
What additional evidence can you show if you reapply?
 

Hansi89

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Job Offer........
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if i were you, i will include some more information regarding your travel history. prepare an explanation with the dates, entry and exist stamps, maybe hotel reservations, flight tickets/boarding passes and explain briefly what you've done in the countries. I am not sure whether this will help but you can try.

for the purpose of visit make a detailed and logical itinerary from day 1 to day 10 explaining what you are planning to do, estimated expenses, refer to the hotel bookings and other reservations.

if you reapply, include more evidence for everything: finance, employment, ties to home country (bills, rentals. family, property like car etc), purpose of visit, travel history.
I really hope you will get your visa! :)
 

Mina20023

Member
Sep 14, 2014
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scylla said:
What additional evidence can you show if you reapply?
well, i may have an extra visa or two for Europe ( idk if this can help) , and honestly i don't think i'd buy a property that soon. my family ties in home country as i mentioned before. but maybe it's not enough.

- do you think my letter should mention to elaborate on certain things!

Thanks
 

Mina20023

Member
Sep 14, 2014
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Hansi89 said:
if i were you, i will include some more information regarding your travel history. prepare an explanation with the dates, entry and exist stamps, maybe hotel reservations, flight tickets/boarding passes and explain briefly what you've done in the countries. I am not sure whether this will help but you can try.

for the purpose of visit make a detailed and logical itinerary from day 1 to day 10 explaining what you are planning to do, estimated expenses, refer to the hotel bookings and other reservations.

if you reapply, include more evidence for everything: finance, employment, ties to home country (bills, rentals. family, property like car etc), purpose of visit, travel history.
I really hope you will get your visa! :)

Thanks for your reply and advice, it's sure it feels as if i was applying to leave Earth to another star system , i'll definitely try again maybe next year or this Christmas . just emotionally not ready for another refusal
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,822
22,102
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Mina20023 said:
well, i may have an extra visa or two for Europe ( idk if this can help) , and honestly i don't think i'd buy a property that soon. my family ties in home country as i mentioned before. but maybe it's not enough.

- do you think my letter should mention to elaborate on certain things!

Thanks
What you have won't really be considered as family ties from CIC's perspective. If you were married and were leaving behind a spouse and/or children while you traveled - that would be considered a family tie. The only real tie to your home country that I see in the information you have provided is your job.

Your age, lack of ties and the fact you are single has likely made CIC concerned you have immigration intent. I would hold off reapplying until there are additional ties you can show. When you reapply, I would definitely include all of your past travel history (including the additional trips to Europe).
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,136
3,122
Hi,

IMO, you do have a chance to get a Canada TRV if you reapply. You will, however, have to put a solid application.

You have already traveled to the UK and Europe. Hence, simply adding additional Europe trips/passport stamps is a time-consuming, expensive strategy to get a Canada TRV.


Here are my suggestions:
For Purpose of Visit:
Prepare a detailed day-by-day itinerary for sightseeing with detailed expense estimates. Include some events apart from the regular sightseeing. Make it as realistic as possible.

Do not do a 70-80% estimate. You do not have a Canadian host who will provide accommodation/travel and living expenses. So it will help if you show you have planned your visit thoroughly.

Unofficially, you'll need CAD 1000 per week of visit + airfare + incidentals + surplus funds


Travel History:
Prepare an Explanation XX: My Travel History.... in a table format, state each visa detail + entry/exit dates + duration of the visit + purpose of visit + scan each visa


Apart from this:
For your employment:
Employment letter + leave approval letter stating you'll have your job when you return + 6 months pay stubs + 2 years ITRs + some compelling reason to return to your work commitments with evidence + 6 months bank statements


For your family ties:
Proofs that you/your dad/your sister live at the same address (house registry, government records) + evidence that your dad and sister is dependent on you financially/well-being (if it is the case)


To make your application stronger, you may want to consider:
1. Plan a holiday itinerary for Home country >> Canada >> Dubai (for example) for 2-3 days >> Home country

You must include evidence of flight bookings/hotel bookings/visa for the UAE


2. Explain that you are able to take a longer holiday because of the 5 days national holidays


3. Include another must-return-by-date-reason with evidence.... for example, a wedding in the family


Cheers
 

Mina20023

Member
Sep 14, 2014
10
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scylla said:
What you have won't really be considered as family ties from CIC's perspective. If you were married and were leaving behind a spouse and/or children while you traveled - that would be considered a family tie. The only real tie to your home country that I see in the information you have provided is your job.

Your age, lack of ties and the fact you are single has likely made CIC concerned you have immigration intent. I would hold off reapplying until there are additional ties you can show. When you reapply, I would definitely include all of your past travel history (including the additional trips to Europe).
Thanks , for your honest opinion, but i don't think i'll marry anytime soon so i can visit montreal, it really sucks you know that, because like when i was in europe so many younger people were already visiting and touring, i know i can rant and mumble all day long and wont change there made decision. truly i am upset for all the plans i had made.

thanks
mina
 

Mina20023

Member
Sep 14, 2014
10
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Bryanna said:
Hi,

IMO, you do have a chance to get a Canada TRV if you reapply. You will, however, have to put a solid application.

You have already traveled to the UK and Europe. Hence, simply adding additional Europe trips/passport stamps is a time-consuming, expensive strategy to get a Canada TRV.


Here are my suggestions:
For Purpose of Visit:
Prepare a detailed day-by-day itinerary for sightseeing with detailed expense estimates. Include some events apart from the regular sightseeing. Make it as realistic as possible.

Do not do a 70-80% estimate. You do not have a Canadian host who will provide accommodation/travel and living expenses. So it will help if you show you have planned your visit thoroughly.

Unofficially, you'll need CAD 1000 per week of visit + airfare + incidentals + surplus funds


Travel History:
Prepare an Explanation XX: My Travel History.... in a table format, state each visa detail + entry/exit dates + duration of the visit + purpose of visit + scan each visa


Apart from this:
For your employment:
Employment letter + leave approval letter stating you'll have your job when you return + 6 months pay stubs + 2 years ITRs + some compelling reason to return to your work commitments with evidence + 6 months bank statements


For your family ties:
Proofs that you/your dad/your sister live at the same address (house registry, government records) + evidence that your dad and sister is dependent on you financially/well-being (if it is the case)


To make your application stronger, you may want to consider:
1. Plan a holiday itinerary for Home country >> Canada >> Dubai (for example) for 2-3 days >> Home country

You must include evidence of flight bookings/hotel bookings/visa for the UAE


2. Explain that you are able to take a longer holiday because of the 5 days national holidays


3. Include another must-return-by-date-reason with evidence.... for example, a wedding in the family


Cheers

Dear Bryanna

Thanks for your opinion, I really appreciate your help and everybody who put there input in this.

- I don't think i will be able to apply this soon, as my travel dates are so close and the round-trip tickets will be too much for my tourist budget.
- Probably I'll be visiting Europe this September with my buddy, since Montreal went outta window.
- I have a question though, i may apply to visit again in December (soo cold as i heard, not many outdoor activities) to spend the Christmas there but my work will give me a week tops there, do you think it's a good timing, won't they think i was just off to Europe couple months ago. (Lord after i read all the stories here, not I'm putting my hair color into account "just kidding")

if and when i do this, i would be honored if you'd be able to review my purpose of travel letter and itinerary.

Documents I'll use next time:
1. Application package (paper based)
2. Air tickets round-trip booking
3. Hotels bookings (for Montreal and Quebec City)
4. Travel insurance.
5. Bank statement.
6. Job letter and leave approval. (Maybe I'll add pay slips)
7. purpose of travel letter ( with the notes you advised , mentioning my travel history in table format )
8.detailed itinerary for the trip with 100% estimate costs.
9.copies of my previous visas

*how do i address my refusal reasons this time, shall i put it in the purpose of visit letter, or in a separate cover letter with my background info? If so I'll add another letter so it would be (cover letter, purpose if visit, and itinerary)



Thanks
Mina
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
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Hi,

Which countries do you plan to visit in Europe in September?

You could consider celebrating Christmas and New Year in Canada.... especially if you can stretch your approved leave with any bank holidays/national holidays around that time.


do you think it's a good timing, won't they think i was just off to Europe couple months ago.
Well-to-do people go on holidays often LOL

No, the timing would be perfect.... everyone is off work at that time.... you want to visit Montreal to ring in the New Year.... and, you have both time off work and money (plus, some more stamps in your passport in September).


if and when i do this, i would be honored if you'd be able to review my purpose of travel letter and itinerary.
Sure. I'll definitely review them + the list of evidence that you will submit when you reapply.


BTW don't forget to declare the Canada TRV refusal when you apply for visas of any other country


Cheers