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saranya21

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May 21, 2018
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Hello friends

We had submitted temporary resident visa application for my husbands parents and we received a refusal stating family ties to canada. My husband and his sister are in Canada. So we suspect it is because of that. Ties to Canada are more than in India. What do you suggest? Is there an option to appeal the decision? The application was submitted from India. If not, when is the best time to reapply and what extra information should we provide while reapplying?
Thanks
 

Naturgrl

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Apr 5, 2020
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Hello friends

We had submitted temporary resident visa application for my husbands parents and we received a refusal stating family ties to canada. My husband and his sister are in Canada. So we suspect it is because of that. Ties to Canada are more than in India. What do you suggest? Is there an option to appeal the decision? The application was submitted from India. If not, when is the best time to reapply and what extra information should we provide while reapplying?
Thanks
Order GCMS notes for full reasons. Was that the only reason? Reapply (no appeal process unless VOs didn’t follow the laws and regulations) strengthening their ties - job letters with leave, pension payments, any family they care for, rental properties or properties (eg. farm) that require them to be at home.
 

saranya21

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Order GCMS notes for full reasons. Was that the only reason? Reapply (no appeal process unless VOs didn’t follow the laws and regulations) strengthening their ties - job letters with leave, pension payments, any family they care for, rental properties or properties (eg. farm) that require them to be at home.
Yes that was the only reason. We had provided all other docs you stated above.
 

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Yes that was the only reason. We had provided all other docs you stated above.
As @Naturgrl rightly mentioned , if by GCSM you have any solid reason you can conclude , Process not followed (Which I am think highly unlikely).
As you mentioned all the document you already provided with your application like pension/Job letter, house/Rental papers so nothing much can do.

Or may be try super Visa , if LICO fulfilled , However that will also not guaranteed.
 
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saranya21

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As @Naturgrl rightly mentioned , if by GCSM you have any solid reason you can conclude , Process not followed (Which I am think highly unlikely).
As you mentioned all the document you already provided with your application like pension/Job letter, house/Rental papers so nothing much can do.

Or may be try super Visa , if LICO fulfilled , However that will also not guaranteed.
Do you know the process to order GCMS notes?
 

Naturgrl

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Apr 5, 2020
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Do you know the process to order GCMS notes?
If you are in Canada, you can order them through Access to Information. Since all their family is in Canada and if you are PR and meet LICO, apply for supervisa. Or have only one parent apply for a visitor visa and see if approved with a family member as a tie to home country.
 

saranya21

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May 21, 2018
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Hello People

I am writing again in detail to inform about the refusal. We had submitted two application for temporary resident visa from India :
1. husbands parents ( biometrics done)
2. my parents ( biometrics done)

Last week , we got refusal letters for my husbands parents and today we received refusal letters for my parents.

For my husbands parents, the refusal reason is

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.


We assume, this is because, my husband and his sister are in Canada.
We had provided the following documents supporting ties to India
  • Passports (Current)
  • Passports (Expired)
  • ID Proof (Aadhar Cards)
  • Vaccination Records
  • Education history
  • Employment history
  • Shop renewal receipt (electronics business) - (father in - law's business)
  • Pension Payment Order (mother-in-law's)
  • Six-month bank statements
  • Fixed deposit details
  • Asset Management Certificate ( assets worth 400,000)
  • Land and property documents
  • Marriage Affidavit
We, are however planning to order GCMS notes. Any advise here, will be highly appreciated.

For my parents, the refusal reason is

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.


We are helpless here, because my parents have a very good financial background and we had provided details of all the assets.
The purpose stated for both families were to visit us as we are getting a new home in Canada.

The documents provided are :
  • Passports (Current)
  • Passports (Expired)
  • ID Proof (Aadhar Cards)
  • Vaccination Records
  • Education history
  • Employment history
  • Employment and leave sanction letter ( employed after retirement- father)
  • Pension Payment Order( father's)
  • Income Tax Returns
  • Six-month bank statements
  • Fixed deposit details
  • Asset Management Certificate (assets worth 500,000)
  • Land and property documents
  • Marriage Affidavit
My mother is a homemaker but we have submitted her bank account statements and fd's as well.

We really cannot understand their visa getting refused because of financial reasons. Please advise.


The letter of invitation from us mentions the following ,

During their visit, they will be staying with us and we will be covering their cost of living. They will also be bringing sufficient funds from India and they have enough money to support their travel and other expenses.

We have a combined income close to 160K . Could it be because of our financial condition?


Any help will be highly highly appreciated.

Please note: We submitted the applications through a travel agency in India.


Thankyou
 
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Naturgrl

VIP Member
Apr 5, 2020
44,956
9,535
Hello People

I am writing again in detail to inform about the refusal. We had submitted two application for temporary resident visa from India :
1. husbands parents ( biometrics done)
2. my parents ( biometrics done)

Last week , we got refusal letters for my husbands parents and today we received refusal letters for my parents.

For my husbands parents, the refusal reason is

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.


We assume, this is because, my husband and his sister are in Canada.
We had provided the following documents supporting ties to India
  • Passports (Current)
  • Passports (Expired)
  • ID Proof (Aadhar Cards)
  • Vaccination Records
  • Education history
  • Employment history
  • Shop renewal receipt (electronics business) - (father in - law's business)
  • Pension Payment Order (mother-in-law's)
  • Six-month bank statements
  • Fixed deposit details
  • Asset Management Certificate ( assets worth 400,000)
  • Land and property documents
  • Marriage Affidavit
We, are however planning to order GCMS notes. Any advise here, will be highly appreciated.

For my parents, the refusal reason is

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.


We are helpless here, because my parents have a very good financial background and we had provided details of all the assets.
The purpose stated for both families were to visit us as we are getting a new home in Canada.

The documents provided are :
  • Passports (Current)
  • Passports (Expired)
  • ID Proof (Aadhar Cards)
  • Vaccination Records
  • Education history
  • Employment history
  • Employment and leave sanction letter ( employed after retirement- father)
  • Pension Payment Order( father's)
  • Income Tax Returns
  • Six-month bank statements
  • Fixed deposit details
  • Asset Management Certificate (assets worth 500,000)
  • Land and property documents
  • Marriage Affidavit
My mother is a homemaker but we have submitted her bank account statements and fd's as well.

We really cannot understand their visa getting refused because of financial reasons. Please advise.


The letter of invitation from us mentions the following ,

During their visit, they will be staying with us and we will be covering their cost of living. They will also be bringing sufficient funds from India and they have enough money to support their travel and other expenses.

We have a combined income close to 160K . Could it be because of our financial condition?


Any help will be highly highly appreciated.


Thankyou
Are you PR or citizen? If so consider a supervisa to consider your funds. Your income or funds many not be considered as it is your parents who must show the funds. How long was their visit?

Husband’s parents: What are their ties to their home country? Immediate family (dependant children), jobs, property that require tending (rental, farms etc.). Your father-in-law showed that he owns a business but how long was the intended visit? He needs to show that the business is incorporated/pay taxes/receipts etc.

Your parents: How long was the visit and did the amount of funds match the length of visit? What was purpose of visit?
 

saranya21

Star Member
May 21, 2018
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Are you PR or citizen? If so consider a supervisa to consider your funds. Your income or funds many not be considered as it is your parents who must show the funds. How long was their visit?

Husband’s parents: What are their ties to their home country? Immediate family (dependant children), jobs, property that require tending (rental, farms etc.). Your father-in-law showed that he owns a business but how long was the intended visit? He needs to show that the business is incorporated/pay taxes/receipts etc.

Your parents: How long was the visit and did the amount of funds match the length of visit? What was purpose of visit?
Are you PR or citizen? If so consider a supervisa to consider your funds. Your income or funds many not be considered as it is your parents who must show the funds. How long was their visit?
Me and my husband are both Permanent Residents.

Husband’s parents: What are their ties to their home country? Immediate family (dependant children), jobs, property that require tending (rental, farms etc.). Your father-in-law showed that he owns a business but how long was the intended visit? He needs to show that the business is incorporated/pay taxes/receipts etc.
My father-in-law's mother is staying with them. While they are away, she will stay with his brother. They own a house and a land. (Details were provided). The intended stay was for 1 month. The business is run in a rented commercial property. The rent receipts were provided.

Your parents: How long was the visit and did the amount of funds match the length of visit? What was purpose of visit?
The stay was for 1 month. We did not specify anything specific about the amount they will be bringing. But had provided asset details.
 

Naturgrl

VIP Member
Apr 5, 2020
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Are you PR or citizen? If so consider a supervisa to consider your funds. Your income or funds many not be considered as it is your parents who must show the funds. How long was their visit?
Me and my husband are both Permanent Residents.

Husband’s parents: What are their ties to their home country? Immediate family (dependant children), jobs, property that require tending (rental, farms etc.). Your father-in-law showed that he owns a business but how long was the intended visit? He needs to show that the business is incorporated/pay taxes/receipts etc.
My father-in-law's mother is staying with them. While they are away, she will stay with his brother. They own a house and a land. (Details were provided). The intended stay was for 1 month. The business is run in a rented commercial property. The rent receipts were provided.

Your parents: How long was the visit and did the amount of funds match the length of visit? What was purpose of visit?
The stay was for 1 month. We did not specify anything specific about the amount they will be bringing. But had provided asset details.
Have you considered a supervisa based on your income? Your in-laws seem to have a stronger profile. So your parents showed no liquid funds? Assets aren’t liquid funds. Again what is the purpose of visit?
 

saranya21

Star Member
May 21, 2018
92
15
Have you considered a supervisa based on your income? Your in-laws seem to have a stronger profile. So your parents showed no liquid funds? Assets aren’t liquid funds. Again what is the purpose of visit?
We have not tried super visa.

purpose of visit is -- We are getting a new home in Canada and would parents and in -lwas would like to come and spent some time with us at the new home.

For both applications, We just showed asset certificate from chartered accountant, fd's, bank statements, pension statements and properties.
We did not mention how much cash they will be bringing.