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Visiting Girlfriend

tweetybird

Star Member
Mar 31, 2013
177
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico City
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 9, 2014. Sponsor Approval : June 5, 2014
Doc's Request.
PGR: august 5, 2014
File Transfer...
June 5, 2014
Med's Done....
Feb 7, 2014
Passport Req..
October 24, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
Decision made: Nov 6,2014
LANDED..........
Nov 20, 2014
SenoritaBella said:
I wouldn't worry about it, they asked for your relationship to him and you provided it, not necessarily how long you've been together. I didn't either and waiting to hear back. Like you we concentrated on showing strong ties to home country.
Thanks for the message! I'm trying to think positive! Sometimes it's scary reading all these refusal stories on this forum. So I tried to not look for anymore information. haha.

GOOD LUCK and keep me posted!
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
haha yup... I'm with you on that. But you will notice with the refusals, ties to home country and travel history were the most common reasons.
 

Romeo

Full Member
May 14, 2013
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Is my guess correct that getting a visitor visa and openly stating you have a relationship like tynoxes did would never work if the girl is from a country like Russia?
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
You had asked me to keep you posted... well, not good news. :( They denied him and the reason was they were not certain he will leave Canada taking into consideration:
- purpose of visit
- length of proposed stay - 4 weeks, specifically June 2nd-30th. I have 4 weeks vacation which I planed to use then. Got travel insurance for those dates too. Reminds me, gotta cancel it.
- travel history - this one stumped us considering he's studied in Europe and has had tourist visas to many of the EU countries, never overstayed.

We will be getting GCMS notes. It would be interesting to read what this genius officer has to say. We put in a strong application but I think the fact that we are engaged didn't work in our favor. I can't help but question the integrity of a system with a checklist of documents(a sham literally) yet expects applicants to read minds. This particular reason for refusal is so subjective because:

1. a visa officer can only assume someone will not leave Canada - how do they know this? what are they looking at?
2. a visa officer can choose not to be satisfied of this if they so choose?
3. even if someone will not leave why assume they will overstay instead of extend their status legally? Or is it illegal to extend status as well?
4. you have the address/work information of the host, surely CBSA can check their system to see if the person has left or applied for extension.
5. let's not forget, if you re-apply and attempt to overcome the refusal reasons they simply check off new reasons and keep collecting $150.

Anyway, I hope this doesn't discourage you and that things go well for you guys. :)

tweetybird said:
Thanks for the message! I'm trying to think positive! Sometimes it's scary reading all these refusal stories on this forum. So I tried to not look for anymore information. haha.

GOOD LUCK and keep me posted!
 

tweetybird

Star Member
Mar 31, 2013
177
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico City
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 9, 2014. Sponsor Approval : June 5, 2014
Doc's Request.
PGR: august 5, 2014
File Transfer...
June 5, 2014
Med's Done....
Feb 7, 2014
Passport Req..
October 24, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
Decision made: Nov 6,2014
LANDED..........
Nov 20, 2014
I'm sorry to hear this SenoritaBella. It makes me so mad to hear that you put in a strong application and like you said are assuming that the applicant won't go back. You have provided honost information and I just feel the VO's are way too subjective.
I really don't know what else you can provide in order to "prove" the person will go back. Even a return ticket and a job letter and previous travel history won't help some cases. Not fair.
 

rowan_baby41

Member
May 14, 2013
10
0
hi guys! i just got my 2nd visa today, multiple entry. i would like to share with you my experience as i am also in the same situation with you guys. I am a from the Philippines(high risk country for illegal immigrants) and my boyfriend is living in Canada. another red flag in my application is that both of us are single and of marrying age.

in the first time i applied for a visa, single entry i did not declare our relationship and just said we are good friends. my visa was approved but it took me a long time in the immigration booth of toronto airport. the officer asked me if this friend is actually my boyfriend. deciding not to omit the truth anymore, i admitted. i started to get scared at this point but kept my cool. he asked me a lot of questions from my work, my salary, how and when did my boyfriend and i meet, how long have we been together, and if we have taken trips together. he also saw the US and Australian visas in my passport so he asked me about my past travels too. thank god, he let me through. i really believed that my financial standing(own business that is already operating for 5 years, with adequate personal salary) and past travels carried me through the interview. don't get discouraged if you are not a business owner! if you have been working for a long time in your company and has adequate pay im sure those will still earn you check marks in their list.

this year i decided to apply for a multiply entry visa and to admit on my application that we are in a relationship. i am worried that my answers from the interview with the immigration officer is recorded on their database so i might as well admit it. with this, i know that i really need to back up my economic ties in the philippines. i made it clear in the application form and in my boyfriend's invitation letter that i have my business to attend to. i supplied them with both personal and company bank certificates. i was advised this time that including investment certificates, stock certificates, land titles, and car titles can strengthen my financial standing in their assessment so i furnished them copies as well. i also made it clear that we are together for almost 5 years now and i have previously visited him in canada and i left as scheduled. honestly, i think they are more focused on the proof you will give them that you will not violate your visa terms and will leave canada before your visa expires, rather than on the authenticity of your relationship.

anyway here are some helpful tips!

1. it's up to you if you will admit your relationship or not. if you wont, expect the immigration officer to cast doubt on you and ask lots of questions. they are trained to spot lies and loop holes. if you are a single woman coming to canada just to visit a male friend, dont you think the officer will wonder if you guys are actually more than just good friends? good if you can back up your claims but in my humble opinion, just come clean.

2.if you will admit your relationship, be prepared to present a rock solid financial standing. if you are an employee, stability and tenure in your current job are big factors. if you know you will need to apply for a visa in the near future, think twice before changing your job. i know someone who after working for 5 years in one company changed jobs then applied for a visa. he was denied as he is still a newbie in the new company, his stability and commitment as an employee may have weakened. it may have been better if he applied for a visa when he was still in his old company. his profile was much better before in the eyes of the officer than when he started on his new job. if you have work contracts or bonds, show it. having an investment account is also a big plus as it will show them that your source of income is coming from your country and you don't need to look for it elsewhere.

3. show your past travels especially in OECD countries and how you did not violate any visa terms. i have been to taiwan twice the past year for business and i feel that it boosted how genuine my work is and how committed i am to it.

4. submit an invitation letter. aside from the required data that must be stated in it, mention how long you've been together and include a detailed itinerary of your trip. in my itinerary i told them that we will be taking a Rockies tour and will make a side trip to the US for a week. the letter will also allow you to explain any issue that you think the officer might dwell on.

good luck!:)