Visit from Jamaica.. Anyone to help?

[k.h.p.]

That will definitely help, if you can document it well.

 

[RickyDee]

Apply for the tourist visa and see what happens. My fiancee (Russian citizen, living in China) has recently been given one, despite all the odds.

If you get rejected a few times - get married.

Lol ok .. guess we get married (ineve

Apply for the tourist visa and see what happens. My fiancee (Russian citizen, living in China) has recently been given one, despite all the odds.

If you get rejected a few times - get married.

Lol guess we get married. Inevitable but we haven't been in any rush.

 

[RickyDee]

Lol ok .. guess we get married (ineve

Lol guess we get married. Inevitable but we haven't been in any rush.

Oops.. first reply wasnt showing to me so did it again.

 

[k.h.p.]

Well, apply for the tourist visa. The VAC refusing to accept the application is not the same as a visa refusal. Apply, see what happens.

 

[RickyDee]

I know the hand to mouth scenario well being from the Philippines. Before I was sponsored by my spouse, I also applied for a TRV that was approved. As I do not know you or your boyfriend, I cannot comment on what you can do to strengthen your application but I will share with you mine.

1. I have children in the Philippines. I provided not just their birth certificates but proof that I pay their tuition fees for school and proof of important events that I need to be present for (graduation, birthday, etc.)

2. I provided proof of home and car ownership. I had no mortgage nor car loan so I’m not sure how much this part helped.

3. I provided 6 months worth of bank statements so they can see the movement of money. Mind you my income was considered good in the Philippines but not up to par with Canada so we provided my spouse’s income as well as secondary support. The good thing about my account though is that they do not have doubts on whether I make money or not as the deposits and withdrawals are consistent and traceable.

Note that you do not have to wait 2 years for a sponsorship anymore. As long as there are no red flags, you are looking at 1 year or if lucky, less.

Ok thank you very much .. we will try with what we have (plus a few more things to copy now). Hopefully it's enough. If not .. more $ down the drain :-/
P.s. what might red flags be? For future reference.

 

[k.h.p.]

Things that make a visa officer believe that there is something wrong with the application, like a rushed wedding or a very short or nonexistent courtship before the wedding. Or someone in Canada paying all expenses for a trip for a visitor, etc.

 

[RickyDee]

Things that make a visa officer believe that there is something wrong with the application, like a rushed wedding or a very short or nonexistent courtship before the wedding. Or someone in Canada paying all expenses for a trip for a visitor, etc.

I guess I just think differently. I happened to fall in love with someone from a poverty stricken country (while there volunteering at a homeless shelter nearly 7 years ago.. we were friends only first for 1.5 years before becoming romantically involved). I've been fortunate enough to travel back one to three times a year, spending 3 weeks to 3 months at a time. I am not rich, and yes it would be nice if he had a good job with his own bankroll .. but he doesn't. And I don't believe it should be frowned upon that the woman is the breadwinner in the family. For now at least. I supplement his income .. so that the girls can go to school, the lights are on (and internet of course), and they can eat something besides rice and chicken back once in a while. The only time there is anything in the cupboards or fridge is when I visit.
Our house there is what most here in Canada would consider a shed .. 2x4s, plywood & tin roof. But we paint it & replace wood as the critters eat it so that it doesn't topple down on our heads .. and its home.
I'd pay anything just to have him come for a visit here for a change. To meet some of my family that hasn't met him yet, and can't travel. To visit with our 13 and 4 year old grandsons that have both spent time with him in Jamaica and call him Papa.
Not to mention .. I think about what if something happened to me or a loved one & I needed him here. Like a hospital stay .. or a funeral for someone we love.
Like I said .. we've been in no rush. But are getting older so figured we'd at least do the visitor visa.
Big big sigh.
Sorry .. I went on and on didn't I.
We just keep running into obstacles and I get frustrated.

 

[k.h.p.]

I guess I just think differently. I happened to fall in love with someone from a poverty stricken country (while there volunteering at a homeless shelter nearly 7 years ago.. we were friends only first for 1.5 years before becoming romantically involved). I've been fortunate enough to travel back one to three times a year, spending 3 weeks to 3 months at a time. I am not rich, and yes it would be nice if he had a good job with his own bankroll .. but he doesn't. And I don't believe it should be frowned upon that the woman is the breadwinner in the family. For now at least. I supplement his income .. so that the girls can go to school, the lights are on (and internet of course), and they can eat something besides rice and chicken back once in a while. The only time there is anything in the cupboards or fridge is when I visit.
Our house there is what most here in Canada would consider a shed .. 2x4s, plywood & tin roof. But we paint it & replace wood as the critters eat it so that it doesn't topple down on our heads .. and its home.
I'd pay anything just to have him come for a visit here for a change. To meet some of my family that hasn't met him yet, and can't travel. To visit with our 13 and 4 year old grandsons that have both spent time with him in Jamaica and call him Papa.
Not to mention .. I think about what if something happened to me or a loved one & I needed him here. Like a hospital stay .. or a funeral for someone we love.
Like I said .. we've been in no rush. But are getting older so figured we'd at least do the visitor visa.
Big big sigh.
Sorry .. I went on and on didn't I.
We just keep running into obstacles and I get frustrated.

I completely understand. However, if you take a look at Immigration and Refugee Board Immigration Appeals Division decisions (see here: https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/) you will see hundreds of cases that from far away look like yours - people happened to fall in love - but on closer examination, it turns out that there wasn't ever love to begin with, it was all put together to be immigration fraud. Or sometimes, the Canadian falls in love with the foreigner, but the foreigner isn't really in love with the Canadian, and leaves them immediately upon getting status in Canada.

It's not frowned upon that you are the breadwinner. The risk is that the person who is coming to Canada is not able to pay for their own trip, gets here, and immediately seeks money from the Canadian government. It could be the other way around - the male half of the relationship could be in Canada, the female in the foreign country, and if the male is subsidizing the female, the same problems would exist. It could even be a same-sex relationship the same way!

Canada's immigration laws are very lax compared to other countries. But in these cases, the entire system is set up to determine if someone is a genuine visitor. Sadly, some of the factors that lead to someone not being a genuine visitor are relationships in Canada and lack of funds. So both of those are alarm bells, or "red flags," about the application. Canada denies visas rather than having to help out the person that is in Canada without funds and support.

Sadly for you (and me!) this often means that people in genuine relationships are stuck in a situation where nothing we say convinces Canada to grant a visitor visa. So we have to go a different way about it.

 

[RickyDee]

I completely understand. However, if you take a look at Immigration and Refugee Board Immigration Appeals Division decisions (see here: https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/) you will see hundreds of cases that from far away look like yours - people happened to fall in love - but on closer examination, it turns out that there wasn't ever love to begin with, it was all put together to be immigration fraud. Or sometimes, the Canadian falls in love with the foreigner, but the foreigner isn't really in love with the Canadian, and leaves them immediately upon getting status in Canada.

It's not frowned upon that you are the breadwinner. The risk is that the person who is coming to Canada is not able to pay for their own trip, gets here, and immediately seeks money from the Canadian government. It could be the other way around - the male half of the relationship could be in Canada, the female in the foreign country, and if the male is subsidizing the female, the same problems would exist. It could even be a same-sex relationship the same way!

Canada's immigration laws are very lax compared to other countries. But in these cases, the entire system is set up to determine if someone is a genuine visitor. Sadly, some of the factors that lead to someone not being a genuine visitor are relationships in Canada and lack of funds. So both of those are alarm bells, or "red flags," about the application. Canada denies visas rather than having to help out the person that is in Canada without funds and support.

Sadly for you (and me!) this often means that people in genuine relationships are stuck in a situation where nothing we say convinces Canada to grant a visitor visa. So we have to go a different way about it.

I hear you.
Funny part is .. it has really been me pushing for this visa. Not him. He'd be fine for me to just live there. All the time. Some people just want to stay home (I have family here thats like that). We just haven't figured out how to do that. I gotta work. I prefer not to feel hunger pain and live in poverty. Not to mention the relentless summer heat. Try not to go there in summer if I can help it.

I'm not giving up. Its just making me wish we had started this 3 years ago.

 

[k.h.p.]

I understand. I wish you good luck.

If I were you, I'd apply for the TRV. See what the result is. If it's rejected, find out the reasons for rejection and try to apply again. While the second application is processing, consider your options re: marriage and start the spousal process.

 

[RickyDee]

Thanks much

 

[DiiDii]

Let me know if you get through....I'm trying to bring my BF from Kingston as well. I'm going to apply online though. Just waiting for a few more documents....Bank account part is the only worry. He's been depositing regularly now, however only sing the end of march as that's when he opened the account. He never really made enough to think he needed a bank account. That's how most people think down there...Unfortunately.

 

[RickyDee]

Let me know if you get through....I'm trying to bring my BF from Kingston as well. I'm going to apply online though. Just waiting for a few more documents....Bank account part is the only worry. He's been depositing regularly now, however only sing the end of march as that's when he opened the account. He never really made enough to think he needed a bank account. That's how most people think down there...Unfortunately.

So true. Actually rarely enough to eat nevermind holding in an account. If we had know, could have been making small deposits all these years. Times it eould have been impossible not to touch though. Plus its such an ordeal to open an account .. all the things required.
If any updates I'll post. Good luck to you!

 

[RickyDee]

So true. Actually rarely enough to eat nevermind holding in an account. If we had know, could have been making small deposits all these years. Times it eould have been impossible not to touch though. Plus its such an ordeal to open an account .. all the things required.
If any updates I'll post. Good luck to you!

Offtopic.. interesting your username. Thats what some people there call me (Deedee)

 

[DiiDii]

Offtopic.. interesting your username. Thats what some people there call me (Deedee)

lol...If I tell you where that's from you'll find me online. ha ha ...I do music. I pronounce it Dye Dye