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Visa Rejected - help me understand

Dec 17, 2024
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Hello,
I received this in my email:
Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the
requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada
temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
(IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/
index.html). I am refusing your application.

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.


These are the options I chose:
I want to apply for a: visitor visa or super visa
Why do you need a visa? To visit my spouse, common-law partner, dependent child, parent, steps-parent, guardian or tutor who is a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada's Indian Act or permanent resident of Canada

Tell us more about what you'll do in Canada. Include dates.
I plan on spending time with my spouse in [home location], who I haven't been with since October. The main purpose is to celebrate her birthday on [date]. We don't plan on travelling much, apart from visiting tourist destinations such as, Niagara Falls, Royal Botanical Gardens, Art Galleries. Most of our time will be spent together at her home. I will come back to take care of my parents

The dates where for 3 weeks total, and we showed funds of over 200k+ mine and my spouses' combined. I attached the AOR document, as well as statement from the spouse, and financial statements.

I don't understand how the "purpose of your visit" is not consistent with "temporary stay"

Can someone help me understand?
 

Naturgrl

VIP Member
Apr 5, 2020
47,381
10,298
Hello,
I received this in my email:
Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the
requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada
temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
(IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/
index.html). I am refusing your application.

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.


These are the options I chose:
I want to apply for a: visitor visa or super visa
Why do you need a visa? To visit my spouse, common-law partner, dependent child, parent, steps-parent, guardian or tutor who is a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada's Indian Act or permanent resident of Canada

Tell us more about what you'll do in Canada. Include dates.
I plan on spending time with my spouse in [home location], who I haven't been with since October. The main purpose is to celebrate her birthday on [date]. We don't plan on travelling much, apart from visiting tourist destinations such as, Niagara Falls, Royal Botanical Gardens, Art Galleries. Most of our time will be spent together at her home. I will come back to take care of my parents

The dates where for 3 weeks total, and we showed funds of over 200k+ mine and my spouses' combined. I attached the AOR document, as well as statement from the spouse, and financial statements.

I don't understand how the "purpose of your visit" is not consistent with "temporary stay"

Can someone help me understand?
So spouse is in Canada? What is your spouse’s status? If she is PR or citizen then should be sponsoring you.
 

Naturgrl

VIP Member
Apr 5, 2020
47,381
10,298
She's a naturalised citizen - we already have a spousal sponsorship in progress, and have received AOR. Which we attached in the application
What did you show as ties to return? Parents are not ties.

So wait until you are PR. Chances of refusal are almost nil as you are not coming as a temporary visitor.
 

ImmSen

Full Member
Nov 27, 2024
42
5
Hello,
I received this in my email:
Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the
requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada
temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
(IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/
index.html). I am refusing your application.

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.


These are the options I chose:
I want to apply for a: visitor visa or super visa
Why do you need a visa? To visit my spouse, common-law partner, dependent child, parent, steps-parent, guardian or tutor who is a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada's Indian Act or permanent resident of Canada

Tell us more about what you'll do in Canada. Include dates.
I plan on spending time with my spouse in [home location], who I haven't been with since October. The main purpose is to celebrate her birthday on [date]. We don't plan on travelling much, apart from visiting tourist destinations such as, Niagara Falls, Royal Botanical Gardens, Art Galleries. Most of our time will be spent together at her home. I will come back to take care of my parents

The dates where for 3 weeks total, and we showed funds of over 200k+ mine and my spouses' combined. I attached the AOR document, as well as statement from the spouse, and financial statements.

I don't understand how the "purpose of your visit" is not consistent with "temporary stay"

Can someone help me understand?
Here is what I mean by being refused based on wording: "I will come back to take care of my parents". There is no dates of travel in the sample letter you are showing here, and I think the letter must include the dates of arrival and departure. Even though you stated that in the online questionnaire.

Did you include an invitation later? from your spouse.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
58,683
14,495
Here is what I mean by being refused based on wording: "I will come back to take care of my parents". There is no dates of travel in the sample letter you are showing here, and I think the letter must include the dates of arrival and departure. Even though you stated that in the online questionnaire.

Did you include an invitation later? from your spouse.
Dates would not help in this situation since parents are not really considered ties but spouse is. Sponsorship is in process and therefore almost certain OP will try to remain in Canada.
 

ImmSen

Full Member
Nov 27, 2024
42
5
Hello,
I received this in my email:
Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the
requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada
temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
(IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/
index.html). I am refusing your application.

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.


These are the options I chose:
I want to apply for a: visitor visa or super visa
Why do you need a visa? To visit my spouse, common-law partner, dependent child, parent, steps-parent, guardian or tutor who is a Canadian citizen, person registered under Canada's Indian Act or permanent resident of Canada

Tell us more about what you'll do in Canada. Include dates.
I plan on spending time with my spouse in [home location], who I haven't been with since October. The main purpose is to celebrate her birthday on [date]. We don't plan on travelling much, apart from visiting tourist destinations such as, Niagara Falls, Royal Botanical Gardens, Art Galleries. Most of our time will be spent together at her home. I will come back to take care of my parents

The dates where for 3 weeks total, and we showed funds of over 200k+ mine and my spouses' combined. I attached the AOR document, as well as statement from the spouse, and financial statements.

I don't understand how the "purpose of your visit" is not consistent with "temporary stay"

Can someone help me understand?
Sorry, just noticed you did include in your original comment "statement from spouse", which means you submitted the invitation letter. I suppose the question for me remains as to whether you indicated dates in the statement from your spouse as well.

As far as parents being ties or not, as someone else said they weren't, they are if they depend on you in some capacity. It depends. It's not cut clear. it's always relative to circumstances. I get that from the lawyer with whom I consulted on these matters. I didn't hire them as my rep coz I couldn't afford them. So I paid them to review my documents and answer my questions. And when came the question of being a source of support to parents: it was a + according to him for strong ties.

If they had decided that they were denying you based on strong ties to canada (your spouse), they would have said so.

Once you get the GCMS notes, you will have a better idea. They should include more detail. if you don't get GCMS notes within 30 days, you should talk to MP about getting them.

However, many people on the WhatsApp groups I am part of, for outland (sept 2024-nov 2024) are getting PR really fast. As fast as 2.5 months sometimes. and others: 3, 4, 6, 7. it is surprisingly not taking the 10 months stated on the IRCC website. so do you really want to bother? your choice.

I was super detailed with all my ties. I explained and documented everything in great great great detail. I think it helped.
For example: if I said I supported my mother, I explained how, what that entailed, how often, I showed actual proof of support.....

My logic was: explain everything in a way where it becomes really hard for them to have gray area where they could deny.

hope this helps.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
58,683
14,495
Sorry, just noticed you did include in your original comment "statement from spouse", which means you submitted the invitation letter. I suppose the question for me remains as to whether you indicated dates in the statement from your spouse as well.

As far as parents being ties or not, as someone else said they weren't, they are if they depend on you in some capacity. It depends. It's not cut clear. it's always relative to circumstances. I get that from the lawyer with whom I consulted on these matters. I didn't hire them as my rep coz I couldn't afford them. So I paid them to review my documents and answer my questions. And when came the question of being a source of support to parents: it was a + according to him for strong ties.

If they had decided that they were denying you based on strong ties to canada (your spouse), they would have said so.

Once you get the GCMS notes, you will have a better idea. They should include more detail. if you don't get GCMS notes within 30 days, you should talk to MP about getting them.

However, many people on the WhatsApp groups I am part of, for outland (sept 2024-nov 2024) are getting PR really fast. As fast as 2.5 months sometimes. and others: 3, 4, 6, 7. it is surprisingly not taking the 10 months stated on the IRCC website. so do you really want to bother? your choice.

I was super detailed with all my ties. I explained and documented everything in great great great detail. I think it helped.
For example: if I said I supported my mother, I explained how, what that entailed, how often, I showed actual proof of support.....

My logic was: explain everything in a way where it becomes really hard for them to have gray area where they could deny.

hope this helps.
There are plenty of spousal sponsorships that still take over a year. If parents were a strong tie and dependent on their child why is the child applying to get PR and live with their spouse in Canada? Would add that IRCC often only selects a few issues that they highlight it doesn’t mean they don’t have other concerns. GCMS notes may give a more accurate description of the concerns.
 

ImmSen

Full Member
Nov 27, 2024
42
5
There are plenty of spousal sponsorships that still take over a year. If parents were a strong tie and dependent on their child why is the child applying to get PR and live with their spouse in Canada? Would add that IRCC often only selects a few issues that they highlight it doesn’t mean they don’t have other concerns. GCMS notes may give a more accurate description of the concerns.
You are trolling. Again, I confronted you about proof/evidence/sources on what you claim on another thread for another situation: and you went radio silence and couldn't provided any sources and left the conversation. You didn't like it. So now you are cooking even more stories.... I am not even going to bother answering your point, because it's clear now you are on every thread responding to my responses to other people, just to confuse people more.

All I know: the information I gave on here comes from immigration lawyers I actually paid, and immigration websites, that I quoted: Stevens Meurens. While you could only provide heresay and links to RAMQ that disproved what you were saying.

You seem to just need this website to live a virtual life, while I am here because I have an actual case and I am trying to connect with other for co-help and co-support on information.

You are not a lawyer, not an immigration consultant, and don't even have a case pending, as per your posts.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
58,683
14,495
You are trolling. Again, I confronted you about proof/evidence/sources on what you claim on another thread for another situation: and you went radio silence and couldn't provided any sources and left the conversation. You didn't like it. So now you are cooking even more stories.... I am not even going to bother answering your point, because it's clear now you are on every thread responding to my responses to other people, just to confuse people more.

All I know: the information I gave on here comes from immigration lawyers I actually paid, and immigration websites, that I quoted: Stevens Meurens. While you could only provide heresay and links to RAMQ that disproved what you were saying.

You seem to just need this website to live a virtual life, while I am here because I have an actual case and I am trying to connect with other for co-help and co-support on information.

You are not a lawyer, not an immigration consultant, and don't even have a case pending, as per your posts.
Yes attaching RAMQ website is heresay. Parents are not strong ties and they never have been for adult children and would never overrule ties to a spouse and no lawyer would tell you otherwise.
 

ImmSen

Full Member
Nov 27, 2024
42
5
the link you provided was NOT saying that CSQ is needed for RAMQ. It said it may be needed depending on the case (that OR the PR card, but not both). So, you need to learn how to read. Your source disproved what you were saying. Oh my God...come to the table with actual facts!
 

ImmSen

Full Member
Nov 27, 2024
42
5
Yes attaching RAMQ website is heresay. Parents are not strong ties and they never have been for adult children and would never overrule ties to a spouse and no lawyer would tell you otherwise.
And besides, for all your other claims: You provided no verifiable source at all. So cut it out!