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visa for parents, host situation is not strong...help needed

babakgh

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Jun 15, 2016
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here is our situation :
a. me and my wife got our PR two years ago, but we were out of canada since then.
b. we will have a baby in about 120 days. we will move to canada in 15 days.
c. we have no jobs in canada. we have 15000cad in a bank in canada.
d. we desperately need my wife's parent help and support during delivery of child and the first two months of our baby. and we plan to invite them for 2-3 month.
e. parents have job and good financial assets in home country.
f. because of visa waiting times, i can not wait until i get to canada and settle before applying for their visa.

and questions are :
1. should I increase my deposit in bank in Canada ?
2. should I mention my situation (no job and newly moved to Canada) in invitation letter ?
3. what extra documents are needed to support and help our case ?
4. any tip for increasing chance of getting visa is appreciated.

thanks a lot
 

scylla

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The most important factors in getting the visa approved is having your parents demonstrate they have strong ties to their home country and have the funds required to pay for this visit. What evidence do your parents plan to submit to demonstrate ties? Have they traveled outside of their home country before - and specifically to other countries requiring visas?
 

babakgh

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Jun 15, 2016
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parents have sufficient money in their bank accounts. they have documents of land and building they own.
they have no recent(past 10 years) travel history.
 

torontosm

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babakgh said:
here is our situation :
a. me and my wife got our PR two years ago, but we were out of canada since then.
b. we will have a baby in about 120 days. we will move to canada in 15 days.
c. we have no jobs in canada. we have 15000cad in a bank in canada.
d. we desperately need my wife's parent help and support during delivery of child and the first two months of our baby. and we plan to invite them for 2-3 month.
e. parents have job and good financial assets in home country.
f. because of visa waiting times, i can not wait until i get to canada and settle before applying for their visa.

and questions are :
1. should I increase my deposit in bank in Canada ?
2. should I mention my situation (no job and newly moved to Canada) in invitation letter ?
3. what extra documents are needed to support and help our case ?
4. any tip for increasing chance of getting visa is appreciated.

thanks a lot
It would be virtually impossible to invite your parents to visit you in Canada before you even live here. You will have to move to Canada and establish some ties yourself before inviting them. The more proof you can show that you are settled, the better.
 

steaky

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torontosm said:
It would be virtually impossible to invite your parents to visit you in Canada before you even live here. You will have to move to Canada and establish some ties yourself before inviting them. The more proof you can show that you are settled, the better.
But still their parents can take their chances to come to Canada to visit them. Like one of my friends, he has not yet established himself in Vancouver but still host his fiancee' parents to Canada for a week tour in Vancouver and Victoria.
 
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mikeymyke

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Your purpose of visit for them might be weak also, as CIC does not like if a visitor is babysitting a child, even if it's your own child, as that is considered working illegally. Is the plan for both of you to be working while your mom-in-law watches your child for 8+ hours while you're away? That will very likely lead to a refusal.
 
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mikeymyke

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babakgh said:
we have no jobs and we wont work in 3-4 month.
Then its very likely she will be refused. The purpose of visit is too weak. Even if she were to try to apply on her own, she would have to show where she will be staying, have quite a bit of money on her since you guys have no jobs and cannot provide for her, but even then, her purpose of visit isn't a good one.
 

babakgh

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is it possible to provide more than one invitation letter ? (from different people as host, both accept paying for the travel, accommodation, food , ..)
 

steaky

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babakgh said:
is it possible to provide more than one invitation letter ? (from different people as host, both accept paying for the travel, accommodation, food , ..)
Couldn't they apply on their own without mention that they would visit you? For example, they can say that they want to visit Niagara Falls only. After they get visa, they can change their destination to visit you!
 
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mikeymyke

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steaky said:
Couldn't they apply on their own without mention that they would visit you? For example, they can say that they want to visit Niagara Falls only. After they get visa, they can change their destination to visit you!
I don't think that will work. For starters, CIC would know his parents have a daughter in Canada, they will first off assume they're planning to come Canada to reunite with her. Travelling to go see Niagra Falls would seem extremely "random" when they have a daughter in Canada.

I know of many people in this situation, and they always point to the fact that "Why would someone want to travel to Canada for simply "tourism" when they have a relative over there? Why would they travel all the way to Canada and not want to see the relative?"
 

steaky

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mikeymyke said:
Why would they travel all the way to Canada and not want to see the relative?"
One of my wife's relatives from China got visa and visited Canada on their own, but did not visit us.
 

Buletruck

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The way I see it (I\m playing devils advocate). Build your application considering these comments:
1) asking for 2-3 month to visit my newly landed pregnant child and her husband with no previous travel history would be an immediate red flag for me!
2) no ties to home country....They have good jobs but can leave for 3 months? Really! (look at that one from the perspective of someone assessing your application who is Canadian) Another red flag.
3) kids just arrived and don't have jobs......why would you need help with a new baby if you are both around the house no working?

Things that people forget about TRV's they need to prove without any doubt in the officers mind....
A)You have enough money of your own to live on. Invites are nice, but really don't mean much. The applicant has to be able to support themselves,
B)YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE! REALLY! It's important! First visit to Canada, son and daughter just moved here, new grandchild.......hmmmmmm....potential overstay!


If it were me, I would:
1)Since mom and dad are financial secure and can take indefinite time off work, have them apply for a visa for a short entry into Canada when you come and land. Say a week! her to help the kids find a home or something like that and see the sights of the new land.
2)leave at the end of the week and establish a travel history here
3)re-apply closer to the birth of the baby....say 2-3 weeks for the application....to visit the kids, experience snow and see how they are settling in.
4) if successful, get on the plane and come to Canada. Generally the entry stamp is good for 6 months (unless there is something suspicious about you or your past) and they can hang around and enjoy the new bundle of joy for 2-3 months.