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Krink

Newbie
Sep 12, 2012
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hi everyone,

im a Japanese, i have common-law status with my boyfriend who is a canadian citizen
and we are just about to apply for a spousal-common law PR...

Since i had a little session with a lawyer and he told me " Do never send the document to CPC Vegreville, because they alway make mistake and delay and do it to Mississauga, Ontario....

I heared and read few posts about how CPC Vegreville makes slow proccessing, on the other hand, it only takes almost half of the time in Mississauga

here my question,

Using the application for Spouse or Common-law Partner in Canada class,

Can i still have option to send them to Mississauga? or Has to be send to CPC Vegreville

or they will send you back the documents because of using the wrong CPC address??

let me know please,,,
 

linh14

Star Member
Dec 23, 2010
74
1
r u applying outside Canada. means, u live in Japan, and ur bf in Canada. then, you HAVE TO send to CIC Mississauga. no other chance to send to CIC -V . dont repeat my mistake :))

if u are in Canada, then, no other way u have to send to CIC-V. actually, CIC-V works not too badly. :D They opened our file same time as CIC-M.

hope it helps!

Linh
 

Krink

Newbie
Sep 12, 2012
4
0
Thank you for the reply! :D

Im in canada right now but my visa will expire in next month
we are thinking to get it done as the application within canada before my visa is expired.

but in the same time, if the proccessing time and the mistakes will make a huge defference like the lawyer said,, it might better to wait to my visa get expired and send the application as the outland one...

then we afraid of losing common-law status in canada by living seperately (hes gona be in canada and im gona be in my country...
 

Creampop

Hero Member
Jun 15, 2012
876
20
124
Waterloo ON
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo closed > Ottawa > Finalized in LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 23rd, 2012
Doc's Request.
RPRF-September 14th, 2012
File Transfer...
7/23/12 > Ottawa 10/9/12 > LA
Med's Done....
April 10th, 2012
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
October 9th, 2012
VISA ISSUED...
CoPR issued Oct. 29, 2012 DM November 6th, 2012
LANDED..........
November 23rd, 2012
How much of your application do you have finished? you mentioned sending it before your visa expires... have you gotten your police clearance? done medical exam? all this must be done and included with your application.
as stated above CPP-V is for in-land processing and CPP-M is for out-land. you can't send a out-land app to CPP-V they will return it to you or forwards it to CPP-M and vise versa yes the processing times are different but if the Lawyer told you about the different times then you would think he would know that both these offices have different types of processing. Processing times in Canada are approx. 19 months wait time 11 months sponsorship approval 8 months for 2nd stage. Out-land processing time is 3 months for sponsorship approval and according to CIC website you would go thru Manila VO which is showing 9 months = 12 months total. You do not need to physically be outside of Canada to file an out-land application, You should apply for an extension I am assuming you are on a visitor's visa you can apply to extend online (link below). Try to have the PR fee's paid atleast that way when you apply for the extension you can provide a copy of the receipt proving you are in fact filing for PR. usually they give a year extension (you can ask for up to a year) for these purposes and you can wait out the duration of the processing here with your partner. My fee's were paid bout a month before I actually mailed in the application. Even if you can't remain in Canada you will not loose your common-law status once you and your partner sign the Statutory Declaration of Common-Law Union. The Lawyer wants your money he is going to try to confuse you and not give you full information, the process is not that hard, long yes but as long as you have a straight forward case you shouldn't need a Lawyer.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/extend-stay.asp
 

linh14

Star Member
Dec 23, 2010
74
1
Uhm.. my friend, she Irish, living in Quebec under visitor (visit her daughter) for several months. her lawyer said she can apply out-land Canada, by sending over Ireland Embassy. U can check that option out. Or what you can do, is write to your visa office (i dont know which one), and ask. They respond quite fast. I ask VO Singapore and got reply in 1 day :)

Linh
 

computergeek

VIP Member
Jan 31, 2012
5,143
278
124
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O/LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
AOR Received.
21-06-2012
File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
Vegreville is for inland applications. Mississauga is for outland applications. You don't get to choose one office over the other and I have no idea why a lawyer would tell you the Vegreville makes lots of mistakes.

Usually, the decision of inland versus outland for an applicant inside Canada comes down to several factors:

  • what is the processing time for your home country - if it is longer than 15 months, you're better off doing it inland from a time perspective
  • are you willing to stay inside Canada for the duration of the application - there's no STRICT requirement, but if you have an inland application and leave and are not re-admitted your application will become abandoned. The manuals say CBSA shouldn't refuse you, but they CAN, and there is some risk there. However, with an inland application you can stay IN CANADA for the entire application process. With an outland application you can be ANYWHERE, including Canada.
  • do you have any reason to suspect your application might be rejected - this would include criminal admissibility issues, prior refused applications, etc. In that case you want to do outland because you have a right to appeal to the IAD in outland cases. Inland cases do not have a right of appeal to the IAD. The only option on an inland rejection is to file in Federal Court, and the grounds for such filing is MUCH narrower than for an IAD appeal.

As Creampop points out, if you submit an outland application, you can request an extension of your visitor record or visitor visa. Note that you won't lose common-law status even if you leave Canada. It's definitely better to have an application in process or at least have paid the application fee before you submit the application to renew your status in Canada. You can file to renew as long as they receive your renewal BEFORE your current status expires. Then you are covered under "implied status" until you either receive your new status document or you receive a departure order - if you get a departure order, you MUST leave within 30 days or face a lifetime ban from entering Canada (a "deportation order").

Good luck!
 

Krink

Newbie
Sep 12, 2012
4
0
-Creampop

Thank you so much for the great information!!

Im having a worker status will be expired in 4 weeks right now, i have been a student before the work permit and after the grad i got a work permit for couple years

I was trying to extendet the status as worker however, unfortunately i needed to have full time job offer,, which i dont have..

im wondering if i send work permit extention request without full time job offer but also with the reason of the PR process wait before my current visa expire, do i get to be treated as Implied status and i would able to keep the worker status untill CPC gives me a decision?

Meanwhile, Im thinking of getting a working holiday visa too, while im waiting the PR process since i have never gotton before and i will be still quolify for the requirement

My application documents is nearly done collecting, just waiting the police certificate from my country and my birth certificate to be translated and pick up at the embassy

Now we are start thinking to wait till my current visa will be expired and send the application as outland... may better for us?
 

Creampop

Hero Member
Jun 15, 2012
876
20
124
Waterloo ON
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo closed > Ottawa > Finalized in LA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 23rd, 2012
Doc's Request.
RPRF-September 14th, 2012
File Transfer...
7/23/12 > Ottawa 10/9/12 > LA
Med's Done....
April 10th, 2012
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
October 9th, 2012
VISA ISSUED...
CoPR issued Oct. 29, 2012 DM November 6th, 2012
LANDED..........
November 23rd, 2012
I really don't know much about work permits I'm sure someone else can chime in about that... but even if you can't extend your work permit you can still switch your status over to visitor. and do everything as I said above... If there is no extension on your work permit, either way you file your going to be with-out work for about a year just that filing out-land you should have the Visa and not just a work permit which is all you would have after a year filing in-land. If in-fact your type of work permit is extendable then you should have implied status until you hear something from CIC. you want to keep your status in Canada legal so you definitely want to get an extension. GL!