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keesio

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missmatalini said:
Hey ya'll! Stupid question here. . .

Since it seems PR card arrival times are high, how does that work if you have to leave Canada and you only have your copr?

I know it's not a travel document, but after I land in January I could possibly be turning right back around to head back into the states to attend a funeral (My Grandfather is dying of stomach cancer) Is having my COPR in my passport enough for them to just let me back in or no?
For Americans, the PR card thing is not as big an issue.

-If you are crossing via land in private vehicle, all you need is COPR (and your passport). This applies to anyone (even for people with non-visa exempt passports)
-If entering via flight or in a commercial vehicle via land (like rail or bus), then you usually need PR card. But if you have a visa-exempt passport (like a US passport), then you can simply travel back to Canada on your visa-exempt passport and CBSA can look up your PR status in the system at the border and let you in when the see it.

Also should note that if you have a NEXUS card, then you can still use that (my wife does not even travel with her PR card since she has a NEXUS card)

The PR card is really essential for people with a non-visa exempt passport.

Sorry to hear about your grandfather. But at least you can safely assume that you can go to the funeral and enter back to Canada without issue.
 

missmatalini

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keesio said:
For Americans, the PR card thing is not as big an issue.

-If you are crossing via land in private vehicle, all you need is COPR (and your passport). This applies to anyone (even for people with non-visa exempt passports)
-If entering via flight or in a commercial vehicle via land (like rail or bus), then you usually need PR card. But if you have a visa-exempt passport (like a US passport), then you can simply travel back to Canada on your visa-exempt passport and CBSA can look up your PR status in the system at the border and let you in when the see it.

Also should note that if you have a NEXUS card, then you can still use that (my wife does not even travel with her PR card since she has a NEXUS card)

The PR card is really essential for people with a non-visa exempt passport.

Sorry to hear about your grandfather. But at least you can safely assume that you can go to the funeral and enter back to Canada without issue.
Thanks for clearing that up for me Keesio! Gives me peace of mind for sure!
 

keesio

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missmatalini said:
Thanks for clearing that up for me Keesio! Gives me peace of mind for sure!
no problem!

One other tip people have suggested in the past: even with a visa-exempt passport, have your COPR on you when traveling via flight or commercial vehicle so you can have it available on entry if needed.
 

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natodincan said:
My hubby's concern is where the medical will be sent if they are done separately (if his son gets his done in the US and my husband has his done in Canada). How are they sent to Immigration? Are they sent to the same place? I was thinking about doing them later and submitting the application now separately. Would both medicals be sent to the same place if they one is done in Canada and one in Buffalo? I would hate for there to be a delay because I wanted to save $70!
The medicals are sent to the regional medical centre for the office processing the application. In your case, that would be Ottawa. It doesn't matter where the medicals are done, that's where the results will end up.

natodincan said:
Also, my husband is visiting with me while we await PR with him returning home every couple of weeks to pick up his son for a visit. He lives with his parents when he is in the states. Can we put his current address on all PR forms as my Canadian address so everything comes to me?
Yes. You can certainly put your mailing address down, even if you want to show his parents address as his US residence.

natodincan said:
What is a household registry? It states in the guidelines for US immigrants to include supporting documents to prove my hubby's relationship to his son...

"Provide birth certificates, baptismal certificates, national identity card or certificate (Cedula) where available, or other official document confirming relationship (including all pages of Household Registries) for you and each of your family members."
Some countries

Are they referring only to family members applying for PR? My stepson is a dependent but will be remaining in US with his mother, only my husband is coming. Do we need all these docs above?
Household registries are not used in the US. Some countries have official documents maintained by the family/household. For example, in some countries births are recorded in the household registry, not in a central repository (like the US or Canada).

Yes, your stepson must provide all those documents. This preserves his ability to be sponsored in the future should the need arise - that's the same reason he must undergo a medical examination. Failure (or refusal) to do so makes him ineligible for sponsorship in the future. Few parts of immigration law in Canada are as iron clad as this one - no examination, no future sponsorship. I've seen too many Section 117(d)(9) refusals in my time here, and they're often heartbreaking.
 

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computergeek said:
Yes, your stepson must provide all those documents. This preserves his ability to be sponsored in the future should the need arise - that's the same reason he must undergo a medical examination. Failure (or refusal) to do so makes him ineligible for sponsorship in the future. Few parts of immigration law in Canada are as iron clad as this one - no examination, no future sponsorship. I've seen too many Section 117(d)(9) refusals in my time here, and they're often heartbreaking.
What computergeek just said is really important - you have to follow this rule!
 

Mariac819

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computergeek said:
Yes, your stepson must provide all those documents. This preserves his ability to be sponsored in the future should the need arise - that's the same reason he must undergo a medical examination. Failure (or refusal) to do so makes him ineligible for sponsorship in the future. Few parts of immigration law in Canada are as iron clad as this one - no examination, no future sponsorship. I've seen too many Section 117(d)(9) refusals in my time here, and they're often heartbreaking.
This confused me. So if you list a family member in the family form but they ARE NOT coming with you, you cannot sponsor them in the future unless you provided the documents and they had a medical done?

I am so confused. I listed my mother, eventually i might want to sponsor her. Does this mean I can't because I didn't provide all the mentioned?
 

keesio

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Mariac819 said:
This confused me. So if you list a family member in the family form but they ARE NOT coming with you, you cannot sponsor them in the future unless you provided the documents and they had a medical done?

I am so confused. I listed my mother, eventually i might want to sponsor her. Does this mean I can't because I didn't provide all the mentioned?
It only applies to spouses and dependent children.
 

Mariac819

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keesio said:
It only applies to spouses and dependent children.
ok Thank you! :)
 

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Can anyone inform me if a Declaration of Severance of Common Law Union, can be done at commissioner of oaths or is it a letter that I type up and have notarized? I've been reading two different things and need to get this done ASAP!
Thank you guys!
 

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Mariac819 said:
I am so confused. I listed my mother, eventually i might want to sponsor her. Does this mean I can't because I didn't provide all the mentioned?
I'm sure your mother is nice, but I am so glad my wife has no desire to sponsor her mother!
 

keesio

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IvanP said:
I'm sure your mother is nice, but I am so glad my wife has no desire to sponsor her mother!
LOL! ;D
 

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IvanP said:
I have the ideal mother-in-law, actually. She lives 8000 miles away and can't visit without a visa.
Jealous, mine is a wealthy, self absorbed, narcissist who loves to deflect her issues, manipulate her son and then cry when her son attempts to call her out on it and then he just melts as I stand there baffled as hell! Get me across the border....
 

Mariac819

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IvanP said:
I'm sure your mother is nice, but I am so glad my wife has no desire to sponsor her mother!
lol.. I am not thinking I will want to but I wouldn't like the possibility gone forever. She is now alone in the States. It has just been me and her since I am a baby. But anyway she is happy in NYC, so It won't be happening :)
 

Mariac819

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May 06, 2015 - they lost my relationship proof and FBI clearance. They will accept copy of FBI, I sent in more relationship proof.
AOR Received.
Oct. 23, 2014 (By Phone)
File Transfer...
Oct. 28, 2014 (SA)
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
July 25, 2014
Interview........
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DM - June 23, 2015 COPR June 24, 2015
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July 12, 2015
IvanP said:
I have the ideal mother-in-law, actually. She lives 8000 miles away and can't visit without a visa.
I would hate to feel this way. I am blessed to have a wonderful mother in law :) ... My husband gets along great with my mom as well but she doesn't get involved in our life which I am sure helps lol... I wouldn't want a nosy mother in law. ! hahaha