I feel we were deceived by the Canadian government: asking us to apply online . . .
The Canadian government REQUESTED you apply for citizenship and to do so using the online procedure? Was that a personal request to you?
I am aware that IRCC made online applications for citizenship AVAILABLE. Sorry, I am not buying that the Canadian government "
asked" you to apply online, or asked you to apply for citizenship at all. Generally I don't refer to Americans for much of anything (other than grief and an ego-centric worldview), but I'll quote their current President on this one and call "
malarkey."
And as others have pointed out, all of which is amply illustrated in processing timeline topics and related spreadsheets, scores and scores of applicants who applied before online applications even became available are still waiting.
Moreover, IRCC is currently reporting a 26 month timeline for processing citizenship applications, based on data from February to August this year. The vast majority of these were paper applications. The proposition that paper applications have been, to date, given priority processing over online applications is ludicrous. That is, again, "
malarkey."
. . . by the way do you think it is fair that people applied in Feb 2022 by paper already did their oath ?
Are you seriously complaining about an isolated number of individuals (assuming their reporting is accurate, which is far from sure) getting what is clearly remarkably fast processing? Are you sure you did not apply for U.S. citizenship, given that's the place where everyone thinks they deserve to be at the front of line and tend to resent anyone who (for whatever reasons, by whatever chance) got to go first. You reference the very, very small number of applicants who report such fast processing in the February 2022 topic as if that somehow is evidence of a real discrepancy in processing timelines for the MANY THOUSANDS of applications made in February 2022, on top of the MANY TENS of THOUSANDS of applications made in the six months prior to that, and the MANY TENS of THOUSANDS of applications made since then.
Stuff happens. Sometimes, for some people, that is good stuff. No need to begrudge the few who have been fortunate enough to get what appears to be almost super-fast processing.
Also kids attending schools in person from last year while IRCC still working from home because they may got Covid 19 ?
Apart from the well-documented and unfortunate detrimental impact of trying to educate our youth through distance learning, more or less compelling the schools to reopen notwithstanding Covid-related risks, which illuminates near nothing about the efficacy of remote work by adults, kind of hard to follow your logic here. Are you saying that handling paper-based applications is easier than digital versions, and so is being done faster by IRCC personnel working remotely? That makes no sense. Or, is this just a general criticism and complaint aimed at IRCC, not really on topic in this thread?
The latter does lead to this:
I get people are frustrated with online applications time frame but did we complain when our PR application was in process ,the pandemic threw everything out of order, IRCC is doing everything they can .
Well, it seems rather obvious that IRCC fell way short of doing everything it could, and fell well short of taking reasonable steps to adapt to the pandemic as it unfolded. It does indeed appear that IRCC dropped the ball, rather badly, and has continued to be painfully slow adapting and catching up. A two plus year processing timeline speaks for itself, illustrating a failure to competently adjust. After all, the grant of citizenship is NOT discretionary. IRCC has a legislated mandate to process citizenship applications and grant citizenship.
I understand IRCC is a bureaucracy, one of Canada's biggest and most complex bureaucracies, and bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, which tends to fall well shy of efficient. So is the Canada Revenue Agency. Both subject to legislative mandates, performing essential government services. Their respective responses to the crisis created by the Covid-pandemic all too saliently exposes the scope of IRCC's failures.
But that's a different topic. In fact there is no shortage of other topics here for whining about IRCC's shortcomings (some real, too many too real, but many also exaggerated if not entirely bogus).
Re More Transparency:
There actually is a lot more data available. Takes some effort. Not all that easy to find, unless and until one learns their way around the government's Open Data information and records. And sorting through the information once one has found the relevant datasets tends to be real work. But there's a lot there. Beyond that there is more to be found utilizing the ATI process; this too can be confusing, frustrating, inconvenient, and unless and until one learns the ropes, difficult; always time consuming. But there is a lot of data available for those who are actually interested, those willing to wander deep into the weeds.
Those who need to be spoon-fed, and those with text-or-twitter attention spans, well, you are probably stuck with whining into the void.
