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Two times refused visitor visa, why?

LutzS

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Jun 12, 2023
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My mother applied for a tourist visa with $11K and her visa was approved for one month visit. I am surprised that 12k was not enough in his case.
This was before covid. Also visiting your mom does not seem like "Tourist travel", but I dont know anymore what is what. While I tried my best, everything this agency does to people seems twisted, unfair and prejudice to me. I did also not help when I as a Canadian citizen personally (possibly with all my posessions as collateral) guarantee that my visitor will return after the visit.
 

Mounat

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Sep 15, 2022
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We met through a Philippino friend who I knew for a long time. Due to the covid travel restrictions we met in person first time in July 2022, followed by another visit same year in December. Yes my partner is 30 years old. As far as I know, he or anyone of his large family have never applied to any visa in any country. Except for travelling in other Asian countries which is visa free for them. He has a good job in the Philippines and also provided a letter from his employer endorsing for tourist travel. I know little about the rest of his family, they all live in different parts of the county. Yes, I have been supporting him for the last year. Differences? We both have university degrees in different fields. Level of education thus is comparable. He has no relatives in Canada. Yes, I am also still working.
The Philippines is a top-5 source country of immigrants to Canada. This means that Canada is a popular destination for Filipinos, of any age but especially the young. What IRCC did here is reject your claim of friendship (and, therefore, the tourism visa) thereby signaling that this is a courtship and could lead to your "partner" overstaying their tourist visa. Having been refused twice, the chances of that person getting approved in the future is that much more difficult. You need to evaluate a couple of things here. First, whether you can visit the Philippines yourself and not have to apply for a Canadian visa. And, second, whether your relationship has potential for long term partnership and requires a different form of sponsorship (e.g., spousal sponsorship).

Good luck.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,935
22,176
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I did also not help when I as a Canadian citizen personally (possibly with all my posessions as collateral) guarantee that my visitor will return after the visit.
Yes, this won't help at all. It's a meaningless statement since you have no way to force someone to leave Canada and the the Canadian government has no means to legally enforce the collecton of collateral from a guarantor if a visitor fails to leave.
 
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LutzS

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Jun 12, 2023
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The Philippines is a top-5 source country of immigrants to Canada. This means that Canada is a popular destination for Filipinos, of any age but especially the young. What IRCC did here is reject your claim of friendship (and, therefore, the tourism visa) thereby signaling that this is a courtship and could lead to your "partner" overstaying their tourist visa. Having been refused twice, the chances of that person getting approved in the future is that much more difficult. You need to evaluate a couple of things here. First, whether you can visit the Philippines yourself and not have to apply for a Canadian visa. And, second, whether your relationship has potential for long term partnership and requires a different form of sponsorship (e.g., spousal sponsorship).

Good luck.
Thank you for your reply! Yes as a Canadian citizen I can visit the Philippines anytime. But it can only be of a limited time, e.g. due to work. We think the relationship has a great potential to be of long term nature. Unfortunately, the visitation barrier makes an official legally recognized partnership (common law, married) impossible or at least very complicated. Application for conjugal partnership seems the only way to potentially get out of this dilemma...
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,935
22,176
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thank you for your reply! Yes as a Canadian citizen I can visit the Philippines anytime. But it can only be of a limited time, e.g. due to work. We think the relationship has a great potential to be of long term nature. Unfortunately, the visitation barrier makes an official legally recognized partnership (common law, married) impossible or at least very complicated. Application for conjugal partnership seems the only way to potentially get out of this dilemma...
For conjugal, the relationship should already be long term in nature (not have the potential to be). You want to show that your relationship is "marriage like" for the conjugal application to be successful.

Yes, a significant age gap can be a red flag. You have also spent relatively little time together, with only two trips. My recommendation would be to get at least one more long trip in before submitting the conjugal application. You also want to show other evidence (other than time spent together) that you are in a long term relationship. I think you said that you send money to your partner. Do you have anything else?

Overall, my recommendation is that you spend time reading through conjugal posts in the Family Sponsorship application of the forum to see what others have submitted as evidence.

Good luck.