Trv refused
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Wow, you do present a strong case. It's hard to find a fault. If I am being picky, I'd ask you, did you submit:
a) Proof of company ownership?
b) Bank account statements (not just an affidavit)?
c) The scanned pages of US, UK and Schengen visas to support your history claim?
a) Proof of company ownership?
b) Bank account statements (not just an affidavit)?
c) The scanned pages of US, UK and Schengen visas to support your history claim?
Ajit,
Suggest you get in touch in with some visa specialists/consultants. Don't pay them straight away, but just discuss what possibly went wrong in your application. Tourist visa they grant to almost anybody not sure what's happening in your case.
Suggest you get in touch in with some visa specialists/consultants. Don't pay them straight away, but just discuss what possibly went wrong in your application. Tourist visa they grant to almost anybody not sure what's happening in your case.
Ajit, to be honest with you, there is no strong or weak application that can turn the decision. The mind set of the officer wwhen he/she starts to read your application is important. If he starts your application with a particular mind set then it is very difficult that any of your submitted documents can change it. Coming to your case, while dual intent is allowed, but many of the TRV applications are rejected because of this reason (officer thinking that you will not return). You himself mention the reason categorically that you wanted to set up a business and then like to apply for entrepreneurship program and need a TRV to determine the suitability by visiting Canada. If I am your officer, I have two questions in my mind: i) The reason provided is not very strong and ii) to apply for business category, you must take risk. For example, if Mr A wants to leave his job in XYZ country and wanted to apply for permanent immigration in skilled worker category, will he ask for TRV so that he can visit Canada see the job opportunities and then coe back and apply for PR. Whether you have a business or very good/high level job, you have to decide before visiting there. I know there are many answers that you can give and argue. But, One thing that we all forget is: "Temporary resident visas is a privilege not a right", as mentioned by CIC, we cant argue this statement, as mentioned by CIC.Ajit1975 said:
I would encourage you to re apply, as you may find new officer and new mind set, with a more strong case. Good luck
Hi Ajit,
I agree with hsp402 that your purpose of visit is not a compelling reason to visit Canada.
Each visa application is evaluated on what is called 'the balance of probabilities'.... although there are no guarantees/sureties that an applicant with a strong case will return home.
The visa officer assesses the probability of whether an applicant is likely to return to his/her home country.... based on documentation/evidence submitted, the personal situation, the purpose of visit, the financial situation, and also through phrases that giveaway the intentions.
For example: we want to visit there from which we will come to know how business will work there & know about the system before migrating there. = intention to remain long-term in Canada = possibility to overstay your visit.
A visa officer will not refuse a TRV because s/he has a bad day or due to bad weather. The onus is on the applicant to prove that s/he has compelling reasons to return home.
I think your TRV application lacked evidence to support your statements. IMO this has resulted in TRV refusals for yourself and your wife.
For example:
1. If your annual profit is INR 5-600,000 = CAD 10-12,000 (not deducting personal expenses)..... then this does not add up to your CAD 50,000 bank balance.... as I think no one would park CAD 50,000 for 4 years in a checking account (assuming you saved every cent for 4 years).... without investing any of it.
So was any of this bank balance transferred between your bank accounts or borrowed for the TRV applications?
Or was the CAD 50,000 balance in your company bank account?
If it is a company bank account then are you allowed to spend company finances on a personal trip? Do you draw a salary?
Did your wife show any finances of her own.... or would you be paying for her visit?
2. For your company/employment: You should have provided tax returns for your company + audit statements + proofs of ongoing orders + payments received from customers + Professional Tax paid for yourself and your employees to prove you have 10-12 employees (if applicable in New Delhi), etc etc
3. For your property: Property ownership documents + latest property tax receipts + maintenance bills (if it is a housing society), etc etc
.... similarly, you should have submitted other documents/evidence to prove your finances, your property valuation (not just a CA's assessment), your wife's self-employment, etc
Cheers
I agree with hsp402 that your purpose of visit is not a compelling reason to visit Canada.
Each visa application is evaluated on what is called 'the balance of probabilities'.... although there are no guarantees/sureties that an applicant with a strong case will return home.
The visa officer assesses the probability of whether an applicant is likely to return to his/her home country.... based on documentation/evidence submitted, the personal situation, the purpose of visit, the financial situation, and also through phrases that giveaway the intentions.
For example: we want to visit there from which we will come to know how business will work there & know about the system before migrating there. = intention to remain long-term in Canada = possibility to overstay your visit.
A visa officer will not refuse a TRV because s/he has a bad day or due to bad weather. The onus is on the applicant to prove that s/he has compelling reasons to return home.
I think your TRV application lacked evidence to support your statements. IMO this has resulted in TRV refusals for yourself and your wife.
For example:
1. If your annual profit is INR 5-600,000 = CAD 10-12,000 (not deducting personal expenses)..... then this does not add up to your CAD 50,000 bank balance.... as I think no one would park CAD 50,000 for 4 years in a checking account (assuming you saved every cent for 4 years).... without investing any of it.
So was any of this bank balance transferred between your bank accounts or borrowed for the TRV applications?
Or was the CAD 50,000 balance in your company bank account?
If it is a company bank account then are you allowed to spend company finances on a personal trip? Do you draw a salary?
Did your wife show any finances of her own.... or would you be paying for her visit?
2. For your company/employment: You should have provided tax returns for your company + audit statements + proofs of ongoing orders + payments received from customers + Professional Tax paid for yourself and your employees to prove you have 10-12 employees (if applicable in New Delhi), etc etc
3. For your property: Property ownership documents + latest property tax receipts + maintenance bills (if it is a housing society), etc etc
.... similarly, you should have submitted other documents/evidence to prove your finances, your property valuation (not just a CA's assessment), your wife's self-employment, etc
Cheers
It's not like job. In job their no risk involved. U do not loose anything. In business high risk is involved.u have go with what u had submitted In Businesses plan. It's really hard to uproot urself and to root their , in new place. Until unless u go visit and search ,explore the work ideas. One cannot jump right way. BC/Manitoba give points for visit .
Bank balance, apart from business I have other source of income also. All the amount declare r in proper way and that include my working limit, saving a/c my wife and mine.
Cheer's ,
nice
Whether u go or not.
Thanks
Bank balance, apart from business I have other source of income also. All the amount declare r in proper way and that include my working limit, saving a/c my wife and mine.
Cheer's ,
nice
Whether u go or not.
Thanks
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Personally, I would agree with what Bryanna wrote earlier.
Your only income claim, which is the profit you take from the business, comes up to 12,000 CAD per year. It is difficult to accept a net worth of 2.4 million and 50,000 in the bank based on that income.
I think you will,need to provide more proof to back up those numbers, like Bryanna suggested. If you have other sources of income that you failed to mention in your application, then I would include them next time.
Also, you focused a lot on wanting to establish a business in Canada which I would think is not necessarily the best way to apply for your first TRV to Canada, since it clearly gives the impression that you intend to work in Canada in the future.
I think both of those things combined made a less favorable impression on the officer and could very well explain why you were rejected.
So I would make sure you include as much information as you can regarding your finances and maybe you could also include an invitation for an appointment with Idea Immigration, since that appears to be the main part of your visit, based on the cover letter.
Your only income claim, which is the profit you take from the business, comes up to 12,000 CAD per year. It is difficult to accept a net worth of 2.4 million and 50,000 in the bank based on that income.
I think you will,need to provide more proof to back up those numbers, like Bryanna suggested. If you have other sources of income that you failed to mention in your application, then I would include them next time.
Also, you focused a lot on wanting to establish a business in Canada which I would think is not necessarily the best way to apply for your first TRV to Canada, since it clearly gives the impression that you intend to work in Canada in the future.
I think both of those things combined made a less favorable impression on the officer and could very well explain why you were rejected.
So I would make sure you include as much information as you can regarding your finances and maybe you could also include an invitation for an appointment with Idea Immigration, since that appears to be the main part of your visit, based on the cover letter.
Thanks
The actual market value of properties,gold, fixed deposits,bonds. Say I bought a property 10 years back for 50000cad & it is now 500000cad . what proof u will provide for that. The bank statement I shown have no current deposits .
I think it's just the luck that works. But I will reapply with more effort on papers. Again need advice is it worth to go for Atip orgo for trv once again. Thanks
The actual market value of properties,gold, fixed deposits,bonds. Say I bought a property 10 years back for 50000cad & it is now 500000cad . what proof u will provide for that. The bank statement I shown have no current deposits .
I think it's just the luck that works. But I will reapply with more effort on papers. Again need advice is it worth to go for Atip orgo for trv once again. Thanks
A person is applying for a TRV for the purpose of "evaluating the prospects of settling in Canada as businessman in future", is very difficult to get "Approved". Any neutral person who is working in Canada Law studies/department in immigration will tell you upfront, will have similar opinion. Still, as I mentioned there are many things that visa officer looks into consideration. My overall suggestion as make your application as complete and as strong as you can and rest leaves it on your luck.Andre_Smol said:
Hi Ajit,
Use the 'Modify' button to delete/change any personal information
This is what I suggest:
1. Take a few steps back and re-look at your TRV application.... look for gaps in documentation/evidence.... do you seem like a short-term visitor or someone who wants to remain long-term in Canada?
2. Do re-read all the advice posted on this thread in response to your queries.... it will help you when you reapply.
3. Perhaps you want quick results.... without reviewing/understanding what documents/proofs/explanations should be submitted for a TRV to be approved..... do go through this forum for similar cases like yours.
4. IMO, your TRV application seems like a haphazard compilation of documents/evidence.... please hire a good immigration consultant to put your TRV application together.... I believe if you work hard, you can prepare a solid application yourself
5. If you need any advice then post your queries here.... we'll help
All the best
Use the 'Modify' button to delete/change any personal information
This is what I suggest:
1. Take a few steps back and re-look at your TRV application.... look for gaps in documentation/evidence.... do you seem like a short-term visitor or someone who wants to remain long-term in Canada?
2. Do re-read all the advice posted on this thread in response to your queries.... it will help you when you reapply.
3. Perhaps you want quick results.... without reviewing/understanding what documents/proofs/explanations should be submitted for a TRV to be approved..... do go through this forum for similar cases like yours.
4. IMO, your TRV application seems like a haphazard compilation of documents/evidence.... please hire a good immigration consultant to put your TRV application together.... I believe if you work hard, you can prepare a solid application yourself
5. If you need any advice then post your queries here.... we'll help
All the best
Thanks
I have plan to get all the property valued from govt. Approved certified valuer.
All the bank statements again stamp by senior manager of bank.
Attach all the visa of countries date wise visited.
Expression of interest, create EOI reference no.,get letter from my registered with canada business immigration lawyer
Show the net worth needs for business entrepreneur stream
Creating an EOI reference no. Will help.
Thanks
I have plan to get all the property valued from govt. Approved certified valuer.
All the bank statements again stamp by senior manager of bank.
Attach all the visa of countries date wise visited.
Expression of interest, create EOI reference no.,get letter from my registered with canada business immigration lawyer
Show the net worth needs for business entrepreneur stream
Creating an EOI reference no. Will help.
Thanks
Hello folks. i am ready to reapply. i have gathered all the documents that i have not even think. i do not want to submit every they could even think of. i need help in creating strong covering letter covering all the issues i was refused for. can anyone suggest any specific way to present the reapply application.
thanks
ajit
thanks
ajit
general format. please suggest should i move with this format
I Ajit Singh holding Indian passport no. xxxx with my xxxx holding Indian passport no. .... reapplying as my visitor visa was refused for following reasons:
1. Travel history
2. Finanance
3. Purpose of visit
4. Back home ties.
Here I have tried to provide detail information for all the reasons due to my visa was refused.
1.Travel history
I am traveling from 1998 and had never overstayed in any country. these are the countries i had traveled to
USA,U.K,FRANCE,HOLLAND,AUSTRIA,CHINA,BANGALDESH
2.Financial status.
Me and wife bank statement stamped by bank manager are attached for your consideration. All statement accumulates to 17000 CAD and this amount is generated through legal way and not borrowed from any relative or friend.
AJIT SINGH MANDEEP
XXXX BANK 2000CAD XXXX BANK 3000CAD
ADC BANK 6000CAD DDC BANK 2000CAD
BABC BANK 4000CAD
Home ties.
My biggest asset is my parent’s and my children. children are not accompany us and my parents will look after them until we come back. Apart from family net worth of more than 2 million CAD (liquid and fixed assets) and my running business. I am law abide person and love to live as business person legally. I have attached the property papers valued by government approved property valuer.
Purpose of visit
At present I am the proprietor of
ABC WORK
XXXXXX INDUSTRIAL AREA,
XXXXX
10-12 persons are working under me
My company specialize in manufacturing machines, moulds, dies & fixtures required to manufacture any type of batteries e.g. car/truck batteries.
My concern is registered in 2005 with company act of Indian government.
As I have shown my intention of settling in Canada (for quality of life) through the business entrepreneur category. To register with the province in said category a short brief business plan is required once you have submitted the plan you are not authorized to make changes in the business plan. Submitting business plan includes
The number of persons to be hired,
specify region in which u are going to established the business and what are the risk factors involve etc.
Nature of the business
buying running business or establishing new
So my purpose of visit is to explore the viability of business and the nature of business to be established or purchased the running business.
Mr. Mak from TYX IMMIGRATION SERVICE registered with for IRCC no. XXX will help me in exploring the business ideas and help in creating business plan.
MY ITINERARY IN CANADA
SIX DAYS in BC
SIX IN MANITOBA
SIX IN ONTARIO
I request for grant of visitor visa so that i am able to submit the strong business plan.
thanks
I Ajit Singh holding Indian passport no. xxxx with my xxxx holding Indian passport no. .... reapplying as my visitor visa was refused for following reasons:
1. Travel history
2. Finanance
3. Purpose of visit
4. Back home ties.
Here I have tried to provide detail information for all the reasons due to my visa was refused.
1.Travel history
I am traveling from 1998 and had never overstayed in any country. these are the countries i had traveled to
USA,U.K,FRANCE,HOLLAND,AUSTRIA,CHINA,BANGALDESH
2.Financial status.
Me and wife bank statement stamped by bank manager are attached for your consideration. All statement accumulates to 17000 CAD and this amount is generated through legal way and not borrowed from any relative or friend.
AJIT SINGH MANDEEP
XXXX BANK 2000CAD XXXX BANK 3000CAD
ADC BANK 6000CAD DDC BANK 2000CAD
BABC BANK 4000CAD
Home ties.
My biggest asset is my parent’s and my children. children are not accompany us and my parents will look after them until we come back. Apart from family net worth of more than 2 million CAD (liquid and fixed assets) and my running business. I am law abide person and love to live as business person legally. I have attached the property papers valued by government approved property valuer.
Purpose of visit
At present I am the proprietor of
ABC WORK
XXXXXX INDUSTRIAL AREA,
XXXXX
10-12 persons are working under me
My company specialize in manufacturing machines, moulds, dies & fixtures required to manufacture any type of batteries e.g. car/truck batteries.
My concern is registered in 2005 with company act of Indian government.
As I have shown my intention of settling in Canada (for quality of life) through the business entrepreneur category. To register with the province in said category a short brief business plan is required once you have submitted the plan you are not authorized to make changes in the business plan. Submitting business plan includes
The number of persons to be hired,
specify region in which u are going to established the business and what are the risk factors involve etc.
Nature of the business
buying running business or establishing new
So my purpose of visit is to explore the viability of business and the nature of business to be established or purchased the running business.
Mr. Mak from TYX IMMIGRATION SERVICE registered with for IRCC no. XXX will help me in exploring the business ideas and help in creating business plan.
MY ITINERARY IN CANADA
SIX DAYS in BC
SIX IN MANITOBA
SIX IN ONTARIO
I request for grant of visitor visa so that i am able to submit the strong business plan.
thanks