TRV Pakistan June 2018

[Cdnpk2018]

Hello everyone

My husband and I are applying for my two single sister in laws visit visa.

- Ages 31 and 28 years old.
- Both have full time jobs past 4 years
- Both have travel history for middle east 3 times for which they requires visa and only stayed 2 weeks, and 3 weeks maximum one time
- we are having a baby so I'll attach doctors letters too
- separate bank accounts with $8000 each
- their job letters, bank and some investment in stocks letters
- tentative tickets
- our invitation letter, bank statements, noa, mp letters

Well say they r coming for 2 weeks as they have full time jobs they have to go back to work

They have both been refused before 3 years ago, they didnt have a travel history nor promising job experience or separate bank accounts but now they do.

They live with my father n mother in law hence ties back home.

Please guide how to make a stronger case or any suggestions. Thanks.

1. Is it better to apply online or by paper via vfs in Karachi office.
2. Should me and my husband write 2 different invitation letters or just one?

As I'll be attaching my own bank statement n his as well. separately 2 diff accounts

 

[Bryanna]

My husband and I are applying for my two single sister in laws visit visa.

- Ages 31 and 28 years old.
- Both have full time jobs past 4 years

1. What documents will they submit for their employment?
2. Do they have unique work responsibilities i.e. work that no other co-worker can do?

- Both have travel history for middle east 3 times for which they requires visa and only stayed 2 weeks, and 3 weeks maximum one time

These countries are not considered as visa-required. Travel to the US, UK, Schengen, Australia, NZ, Japan, etc are considered as travel history.

- we are having a baby so I'll attach doctors letters too

A big NO to this idea. Absolutely no mention about the baby in the invitation letter + no doctors letter/similar documents. It would incorrectly seem like your sisters-in-law are visiting to take care of you/your baby = Working illegally as visitors

- separate bank accounts with $8000 each

Hopefully, nothing borrowed from anyone + the bank balance is in-line with their income and tax assessment

- our invitation letter, bank statements, noa, mp letters

Letters from the MP won't help.

They have both been refused before 3 years ago, they didnt have a travel history nor promising job experience or separate bank accounts but now they do.

What were the refusal reasons?

They live with my father n mother in law hence ties back home.

Their parents will be family ties to return to only if the parents are dependent on your sisters-in-law financially or for their well-being. Is this the case + if yes, what documents will they include?

1. Is it better to apply online or by paper via vfs in Karachi office.

Online is a better option for Pakistan applications because VFS Pakistan does not accept most documents that prove an applicant's strong ties.

2. Should me and my husband write 2 different invitation letters or just one?

One invitation letter

Please guide how to make a stronger case or any suggestions. Thanks.

1. Do they own property or land (legally in their individual names)?
2. What is the purpose of their visit?
3. Are they engaged to be married?
4. Do they volunteer in a charity organization or for any social causes?
5. Are they enrolled/students of a study program (not online)?

 

[Cdnpk2018]

1. What documents will they submit for their employment?
2. Do they have unique work responsibilities i.e. work that no other co-worker can do?

Job letters...one is math department head in a school and one is supervisor at a pharmacy in a hospital

These countries are not considered as visa-required. Travel to the US, UK, Schengen, Australia, NZ, Japan, etc are considered as travel history.



A big NO to this idea. Absolutely no mention about the baby in the invitation letter + no doctors letter/similar documents. It would incorrectly seem like your sisters-in-law are visiting to take care of you/your baby = Working illegally as visitors

Oh ok. Can they mention my brother is having a baby wed like to go n see it? We will be doing a party for the baby at home so can we mention it?

Hopefully, nothing borrowed from anyone + the bank balance is in-line with their income and tax assessment

Yes.



Letters from the MP won't help.

Ok

What were the refusal reasons?

Reasons were no travel history not enough to go back...before they didnt travel 3 times neither they had 4 years of work experience nor before they had their own bank statements...but now due to own jobs for their monthly income they have their own bank accounts

Their parents will be family ties to return to only if the parents are dependent on your sisters-in-law financially or for their well-being. Is this the case + if yes, what documents will they include?

No parents are not dependent on them.


My father n mother in laws visit visa expired too. They will reapply with their new passports. Last time they had it valid for four years and they came twice.

Online is a better option for Pakistan applications because VFS Pakistan does not accept most documents that prove an applicant's strong ties.



One invitation letter



1. Do they own property or land (legally in their individual names)? No
2. What is the purpose of their visit? To visit us really that's it and go back to their work n lifestyle. To see Canada for a holiday.
3. Are they engaged to be married? No
4. Do they volunteer in a charity organization or for any social causes? Yes
5. Are they enrolled/students of a study program (not online)?

no

 

[Cdnpk2018]

no

@Bryanna

I replied with answers to ur questions

 

[ubfx]

1. What documents will they submit for their employment?
2. Do they have unique work responsibilities i.e. work that no other co-worker can do?



These countries are not considered as visa-required. Travel to the US, UK, Schengen, Australia, NZ, Japan, etc are considered as travel history.



A big NO to this idea. Absolutely no mention about the baby in the invitation letter + no doctors letter/similar documents. It would incorrectly seem like your sisters-in-law are visiting to take care of you/your baby = Working illegally as visitors



Hopefully, nothing borrowed from anyone + the bank balance is in-line with their income and tax assessment



Letters from the MP won't help.



What were the refusal reasons?



Their parents will be family ties to return to only if the parents are dependent on your sisters-in-law financially or for their well-being. Is this the case + if yes, what documents will they include?



Online is a better option for Pakistan applications because VFS Pakistan does not accept most documents that prove an applicant's strong ties.



One invitation letter



1. Do they own property or land (legally in their individual names)?
2. What is the purpose of their visit?
3. Are they engaged to be married?
4. Do they volunteer in a charity organization or for any social causes?
5. Are they enrolled/students of a study program (not online)?

I agree with @Bryanna if your answer is NO so better don't apply because of their ages and marital status plus travelling history and financial as well Canada checks everything like they check travel history which they count only UK, USA or Aus like bryanna Said plus they need good bank statement with Income tax return and property etc for surety that they have something to come back Middle east travelling is not countable it is just a prof that they visit abroad nothing else ..

Better make case stronger in all aspects like visits of Europe Uk usa etc and then think about it either they will provide same reasons which they gave you 3 years ago btw what was the reasons of previous refusals?

 

[Cdnpk2018]

Sorry but my answers are above in the highlighted area they arent separated I dont know why

And I mentioned above the reasons for refusal 3 years ago

 

[ubfx]

Sorry but my answers are above in the highlighted area they arent separated I dont know why

And I mentioned above the reasons for refusal 3 years ago

better build up their travel history before apply and financial with tax returns they might need to visit UK USA atlest before apply either chances are less as per the current experience of reading this forum since past year Good Luck

 

[Cdnpk2018]

O ok thanks

Travel history true they can improve

But their finances shows their money n their investments in stocks so total of 8000 cdn

For 2 weeks only


N their job letters say they r going for 2 weeks only plus past 4 years they got promotion letters appreciation awards etc.

 

[Bryanna]

Travel history true they can improve

It would be better if they travel first to the UK/Schengen countries.

But their finances shows their money n their investments in stocks so total of 8000 cdn

This amount is low, especially if it includes stocks. Liquid finances must be around CAD 8-10,000 + financial investments to indicate a good financial situation.

The visa officer will consider their income through salaries. Hopefully, their income is high.

For 2 weeks only

It does not matter how long they will visit. Most applicants state a short visit but in reality stay for much longer.

N their job letters say they r going for 2 weeks only plus past 4 years they got promotion letters appreciation awards etc.

They don't have any immovable assets (property or land ownership) + no dependent family ties to return to + no travel history.


I recommend:
1. Applying for only one sister-in-law (the one that has earns better than the other) , or

2. Your in-laws must reapply for new TRVs by indicating your sisters-in-law as the family ties to return home to

 

[Cdnpk2018]

Thanks guys

 

[ubfx]

It would be better if they travel first to the UK/Schengen countries.



This amount is low, especially if it includes stocks. Liquid finances must be around CAD 8-10,000 + financial investments to indicate a good financial situation.

The visa officer will consider their income through salaries. Hopefully, their income is high.



It does not matter how long they will visit. Most applicants state a short visit but in reality stay for much longer.




They don't have any immovable assets (property or land ownership) + no dependent family ties to return to + no travel history.


I recommend:
1. Applying for only one sister-in-law (the one that has earns better than the other) , or

2. Your in-laws must reapply for new TRVs by indicating your sisters-in-law as the family ties to return home to

Very Wise Advice

 

[Cdnpk2018]

It would be better if they travel first to the UK/Schengen countries.



This amount is low, especially if it includes stocks. Liquid finances must be around CAD 8-10,000 + financial investments to indicate a good financial situation.

The visa officer will consider their income through salaries. Hopefully, their income is high.



It does not matter how long they will visit. Most applicants state a short visit but in reality stay for much longer.




They don't have any immovable assets (property or land ownership) + no dependent family ties to return to + no travel history.


I recommend:
1. Applying for only one sister-in-law (the one that has earns better than the other) , or

2. Your in-laws must reapply for new TRVs by indicating your sisters-in-law as the family ties to return home to

Thanks Bryanna

My father n mother in law will reapply mentioning their daughters as their family ties etc.

But also One sister with the better job will apply for trv separately

My question is in her letter of purpose of visit should she mention the refusals reasons and how she has now tried to improve her case after 3 years and now applying

She has a more secure job
Better bank saving as well as investment
Also a shorter visit
Etc. And that she no longer depends on her parents she is independent


Before had no travel experience at all nor a 4 years job experience neither her own bank account or any saving in her name

 

[ubfx]

Thanks Bryanna

My father n mother in law will reapply mentioning their daughters as their family ties etc.

But also One sister with the better job will apply for trv separately

My question is in her letter of purpose of visit should she mention the refusals reasons and how she has now tried to improve her case after 3 years and now applying

She has a more secure job
Better bank saving as well as investment
Also a shorter visit
Etc. And that she no longer depends on her parents she is independent


Before had no travel experience at all nor a 4 years job experience neither her own bank account or any saving in her name

if she thinks her refusal reasons are fixed so no need to mention or justification of it what they want a proper application with efficient documents and your covering letter play a key role as much and easier the documents chances will be higher accordingly Good luck

 

[Bryanna]

Thanks Bryanna

My father n mother in law will reapply mentioning their daughters as their family ties etc.

But also One sister with the better job will apply for trv separately

My question is in her letter of purpose of visit should she mention the refusals reasons and how she has now tried to improve her case after 3 years and now applying

She has a more secure job
Better bank saving as well as investment
Also a shorter visit
Etc. And that she no longer depends on her parents she is independent


Before had no travel experience at all nor a 4 years job experience neither her own bank account or any saving in her name

She must include evidence to show her parents are dependent on her financially or for their well-being (if that's the case).

Also, apply for the sister-in-law first.... wait for the decision.,,, and then apply for your in-laws. IMO, she has only a 50:50 chance of an approval. So, do prepare her paperwork well.

She must declare her previous TRV refusal (and visa refusals for any other country if she was refused) in the TRV application form

 

[Cdnpk2018]

Thanks guys

Last time she applied it was refused as she was dependent on parents

But this time not dependent on them...but again that is something vo will decide


Yes first shell apply then after a few weeks parents will apply

Yes she will declare her previous trv refusal but im a afraid she does no longer have her refusal paper