TRV for mom - proof of funds/ties to home country

[Fariya12]

Hi guys,

I am currently a PR, living in Toronto and looking to apply for my mom's TRV (for 3-4 weeks) for the 2nd time ( I had applied once before for her to come for my graduation a few years back but it got rejected bc we didn't show enough ties to home country & proof of funds. This time as I'm preparing her application, wanted to get your thoughts on below:

1) Proof of funds: Both my parents are retired and have no property/source of income other than the monthly funds I send them. Knowing my mom needs to show proof of funds, I got her to open a bank account recently and will deposit $4k as proof of funds. How long do I need to let the money stay in her account? Are 3 month bank statements enough? I will supplement this with my own T4's, bank statements etc. to show i will support her trip here.

2) Home country ties: Since my brother (still in university) and father (he's 73 years old) will still be in Pakistan when she visits Toronto, could I use that as a proof of ties? Get an affidavit or letter from a doc, saying my dad needs care + proof of my brother's enrollment? She doesn't have any property/lease in her name & no past travel history which makes all this tricky. My parents tutor kids sometimes so wondering if I should also include that as another tie?

Thanks for reading!

 

[Bryanna]

I am currently a PR, living in Toronto and looking to apply for my mom's TRV (for 3-4 weeks) for the 2nd time ( I had applied once before for her to come for my graduation a few years back but it got rejected bc we didn't show enough ties to home country & proof of funds. This time as I'm preparing her application, wanted to get your thoughts on below:

What is the purpose of her new visit?

1) Proof of funds: Both my parents are retired and have no property/source of income other than the monthly funds I send them. Knowing my mom needs to show proof of funds, I got her to open a bank account recently and will deposit $4k as proof of funds. How long do I need to let the money stay in her account? Are 3 month bank statements enough? I will supplement this with my own T4's, bank statements etc. to show i will support her trip here.

It doesn't work this way. It is easy to do the math and see that the money in her recently opened bank account was not earned by her, nor was it earned by your dad/transferred by him to her.

2) Home country ties: Since my brother (still in university) and father (he's 73 years old) will still be in Pakistan when she visits Toronto, could I use that as a proof of ties?

Yes, your dad and your brother are family ties for her to return to Pakistan.

Get an affidavit or letter from a doc, saying my dad needs care + proof of my brother's enrollment?

An affidavit won't work and is a waste of money.

The letter from the doctor won't work either. If your mom is the caregiver for your dad + if your dad is suffering from medical conditions then you must include evidence for both.

Your brother's enrollment + he stays at the same address as your parents.

My parents tutor kids sometimes so wondering if I should also include that as another tie?

If they can prove they have earned income from tutoring then yes, it can be included as a reason to return.


Does your mom have any family event that's scheduled after her intended visit?
Does your dad earn a pension?
Do they have any financial investments?

 

[Fariya12]

What is the purpose of her new visit?


It doesn't work this way. It is easy to do the math and see that the money in her recently opened bank account was not earned by her, nor was it earned by your dad/transferred by him to her.


Yes, your dad and your brother are family ties for her to return to Pakistan.


An affidavit won't work and is a waste of money.

The letter from the doctor won't work either. If your mom is the caregiver for your dad + if your dad is suffering from medical conditions then you must include evidence for both.

Your brother's enrollment + he stays at the same address as your parents.



If they can prove they have earned income from tutoring then yes, it can be included as a reason to return.


Does your mom have any family event that's scheduled after her intended visit?
Does your dad earn a pension?
Do they have any financial investments?

Thanks for the quick feedback! Much appreciated. I've answered some of your questions/ provided more info. below.

Travel purpose: Tourism (In my letter of invitation, I also intend to show a detailed itinerary of all the places she will see during her visit here)

What else can I use for proof of funds in that case? Not sure how reliable this is, but I read in one of the other posts in this forrum that if e.g. I transfer funds to my mom's account and explicitly say in my invitation letter that these funds are solely to support her trip here, that could work. Other than that, not sure how to tackle the proof of funds..

My parents have no investments, pension or upcoming events. In situations like these, are there any other documents I can use to show proof of funds/ties to home country that I'm not aware of? Your help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Pilipinas16]

Hi guys,

I am currently a PR, living in Toronto and looking to apply for my mom's TRV (for 3-4 weeks) for the 2nd time ( I had applied once before for her to come for my graduation a few years back but it got rejected bc we didn't show enough ties to home country & proof of funds. This time as I'm preparing her application, wanted to get your thoughts on below:

1) Proof of funds: Both my parents are retired and have no property/source of income other than the monthly funds I send them. Knowing my mom needs to show proof of funds, I got her to open a bank account recently and will deposit $4k as proof of funds. How long do I need to let the money stay in her account? Are 3 month bank statements enough? I will supplement this with my own T4's, bank statements etc. to show i will support her trip here.

2) Home country ties: Since my brother (still in university) and father (he's 73 years old) will still be in Pakistan when she visits Toronto, could I use that as a proof of ties? Get an affidavit or letter from a doc, saying my dad needs care + proof of my brother's enrollment? She doesn't have any property/lease in her name & no past travel history which makes all this tricky. My parents tutor kids sometimes so wondering if I should also include that as another tie?

Thanks for reading!

Hi guys,

I am currently a PR, living in Toronto and looking to apply for my mom's TRV (for 3-4 weeks) for the 2nd time ( I had applied once before for her to come for my graduation a few years back but it got rejected bc we didn't show enough ties to home country & proof of funds. This time as I'm preparing her application, wanted to get your thoughts on below:

1) Proof of funds: Both my parents are retired and have no property/source of income other than the monthly funds I send them. Knowing my mom needs to show proof of funds, I got her to open a bank account recently and will deposit $4k as proof of funds. How long do I need to let the money stay in her account? Are 3 month bank statements enough? I will supplement this with my own T4's, bank statements etc. to show i will support her trip here.

2) Home country ties: Since my brother (still in university) and father (he's 73 years old) will still be in Pakistan when she visits Toronto, could I use that as a proof of ties? Get an affidavit or letter from a doc, saying my dad needs care + proof of my brother's enrollment? She doesn't have any property/lease in her name & no past travel history which makes all this tricky. My parents tutor kids sometimes so wondering if I should also include that as another tie?

Thanks for reading!

For my dad, proof of sufficient funds came from me. I took a commissioned letter stating that I will shoukder all his expenses then I showed my proofs of funds

 

[Fariya12]

For my dad, proof of sufficient funds came from me. I took a commissioned letter stating that I will shoukder all his expenses then I showed my proofs of funds

And your application got approved? That is a relief...I've been reading mostly that the person travelling has to show proof of funds, not the person who will be hosting them.

 

[Pilipinas16]

And your application got approved? That is a relief...I've been reading mostly that the person travelling has to show proof of funds, not the person who will be hosting them.

Yes, I think for parents and grandparents, the proof if funds are from the host while for other situations, economic ties and funds are to be presented by the applicant

 

[Nirvan]

For my dad, proof of sufficient funds came from me. I took a commissioned letter stating that I will shoukder all his expenses then I showed my proofs of funds

Pilipinas16;
Do you mean that we do not have to submit bank statement of the main applicant if we choose to do so what you have done? Also how do you get the commissioned letter. I am in Toronto. Do we get it done from a lawyer?
Thank you in advance.

 

[Bryanna]

Pilipinas16;
Do you mean that we do not have to submit bank statement of the main applicant if we choose to do so what you have done? Also how do you get the commissioned letter. I am in Toronto. Do we get it done from a lawyer?
Thank you in advance.

It's not advisable to literally bank on the hosts' finances for a TRV application. I guess s/he is from the Philippines where visa officers are a bit more sympathetic in considering TRV applications of parents. The same sympathy might not be given to India/Nepal applications.

If you're applying for an immediate family member (your parents or siblings) then you must include your bank statement. Notarization is not required. A PDF print will suffice

 

[Eveslm]

My mother in law did not submit her own bank statement when she applied for TRV. My husband submitted his payslips, letter from employer and bank statement and a letter that he will cover all expenses for her trip including but not limited to food, housing, etc. These were not notarised. Please note that the country specific instructions and checklist mentioned that this is possible.

I have checked the country specific instructions for Pakistan and it does state the following:

If you are not paying for your own trip:

• Provide a letter signed by the person paying and a photocopy of their passport, or other official identification with photo and a bank certificate proving that they have sufficient funds.
• Describe how this person is related to you.
• These documents must be dated within three months of the date on which the application is submitted.

 

[Pilipinas16]

Pilipinas16;
Do you mean that we do not have to submit bank statement of the main applicant if we choose to do so what you have done? Also how do you get the commissioned letter. I am in Toronto. Do we get it done from a lawyer?
Thank you in advance.

You write the letter then bring it to the city hall and asked for the commissioner of oaths to commissioned it. Make sure your letter contains information about your household and accommodation support.

 

[Bryanna]

You write the letter then bring it to the city hall and asked for the commissioner of oaths to commissioned it. Make sure your letter contains information about your household and accommodation support.

The OP's parents are applying from Nepal for TRVs, not for super visas. Notarization of the invitation letter is not required

 

[LLJ]

Just sharing my experience with the TRV application for my mom coming from the Philippines. She is 62 years old, no asset whatsoever and basically I have been providing for her financial needs for 15 years now. I am currently pregnant. Myself and husband are both PR, both still working and have just a little savings to show in our bank account. We made an invitation letter for my mom stating that we would love for her to come over to provide family support in time for my delivery. We also said that we will be responsible for all of her expenses, and that we intend for her to stay with us for 6 months. This letter was not notarized or anything, just signed by myself and husband. Apart from our identifications, we did provide a copy of our certifcate of employment letters, T2, paystubs and our not-so-chunky bank statement. Also a copy of my mom's and myself's joint bank statement in the Philippines to establish that I have been supporting her all along albeit this bank account is like a pass-through of funds only, no balance. If there is only one edge we are counting on for the approval, it was her travel history - she's traveled to Australia for 3 months a few years back. Thankfully our application was approved in less than a week's time after biometrics submission.

I guess what I am trying to say is that to those intending to sponsor a family member (particularly parents) for a TRV in Canada, just be truthful with your application / declaration. Don't be intimidated if your invitee does not have the funds - just collect documents that you think will help demonstrate your capability to host. Making-up funds on your invitee's name just because you read somewhere here that chances of getting approved is slim if your family does not have a fund of their own will only jeopardize your application. Additionally, putting as a purpose of the visit - family support for child delivery or family assistance in the caring of a new born child is perfectly fine, please don't listen to those that are saying it may not be a compelling reason to convince a visa officer. And oh, it is my understanding that people working in a visa office/consulate/embassy are citizens of the country they represent hence I do not believe that it is a big deal which country you are applying from as these officers have the same training. I think that it would only differ country-to-country if your fellow countrymen has some sort history of violating immigration laws of the country they intend to go to in which case visa officers maybe a little stringent

 

[Pilipinas16]

The OP's parents are applying from Nepal for TRVs, not for super visas. Notarization of the invitation letter is not required

I did apply TRV for my father notva supervisa, I would of mention supervisa if I did. Commisioning a letter is just a very small step with very minimal fee that can help his application. He has nothing to loose bu doing so.

 

[Bryanna]

I did apply TRV for my father notva supervisa, I would of mention supervisa if I did.

Visa officers tend to be extremely sympathetic towards Philippine applicants (TRVs or super visas).... even if these applicants have low/zero personal funds and near-zero ties to return to the Philippines.... or if these parents state they are visiting to take care of pregnant relatives/newborn grandchildren.

Being financially dependent on the Canadian host.... and/or stating the parent is visiting to take care of pregnant daughters/daughters-in-law or new born grandchildren does not work for applicants from other countries that have better economic standards.... even if these applicants are truthful about their intentions (poor financial situation, pregnant daughter et al).

Commisioning a letter is just a very small step with very minimal fee that can help his application. He has nothing to loose bu doing so.

It is not required by the India visa offices which process applications for both India and Nepal. Nor does notarization help the application.

The notarization requirement varies from country to country. Generally, notarization is requested for applications from countries that are likely to submit fraudulent documents or where invitation letters could be misused

 

[SHENJUTI]

It's not advisable to literally bank on the hosts' finances for a TRV application. I guess s/he is from the Philippines where visa officers are a bit more sympathetic in considering TRV applications of parents. The same sympathy might not be given to India/Nepal applications.

If you're applying for an immediate family member (your parents or siblings) then you must include your bank statement. Notarization is not required. A PDF print will suffice

@Bryanna,
Just wondering what about Visa Officers in Singapore ( as applications from Bangladesh process in there). How about their point of view regarding Parents TRV?