Trouble with the form

[rajkamalmohanram]

Hi Raj,

I am wondered if we are looking at the same application form. In my form, Q8 is

Is someone helping you fill out this form
Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form

And "Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form" appears in the print version. That's why people sometimes doesn't know, because in the original version, this line disappers if you select "No" for the previous question.

Whoops. My bad.

Yes, the actual Q8 on the form is about using a representative.

But the OP in his post was NOT talking about this question. The discussion there was about the 8th question under Q16 (Prohibitions). When the OP printed the form, the eighth question under Q16 was NOT printed and hence his application was returned. Please look at the first post in that thread (I have hyperlinked this in my previous post) and that will give you some clarity.

 

[fly_van]

Whoops. My bad.

Yes, the actual Q8 on the form is about using a representative.

But the OP in his post was NOT talking about this question. The discussion there was about the 8th question under Q16 (Prohibitions). When the OP printed the form, the eighth question under Q16 was NOT printed and hence his application was returned. Please look at the first post in that thread (I have hyperlinked this in my previous post) and that will give you some clarity.

Thanks for this, It is really strange of this form. I would definitely double check mine before sending.

 

[rafzy]

Guys, here's another problem reported by @JDenH . Apparently, under the prohibitions question (Q16), point 8 is not printed correctly/completely sometimes. This person's application was returned because of this.

Not sure how many cases of this are happening but pay particular attention to the prohibitions section to ensure that all the questions that are under Q16 (prohibitions) section are printed correctly.

It has happened to other applicants who got their applications returned with issues with different questions under the same section. So recheck again guys before sending it.

 

[fly_van]

It has happened to other applicants who got their applications returned with issues with different questions under the same section. So recheck again guys before sending it.

The errors of the form I know until now:

(1) Question 8 - line "Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form" appears in printed version
(2) Question 16, point 8 - part of point 8 might disappear in printed version
(3) Question 12, Header of the table increases once you edit the table again and save

 

[EUK]

The errors of the form I know until now:

(1) Question 8 - line "Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form" appears in printed version
(2) Question 16, point 8 - part of point 8 might disappear in printed version
(3) Question 12, Header of the table increases once you edit the table again and save

Item 1 and 2 could cause an issue but not item 3.

 

[royce110]

The errors of the form I know until now:

(1) Question 8 - line "Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form" appears in printed version
(2) Question 16, point 8 - part of point 8 might disappear in printed version
(3) Question 12, Header of the table increases once you edit the table again and save

just checked my application and I have the same issue. “Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form” is blank.
The question above “is someone helping you fill out this form” is checked “No”

Do you think my application will be returned?

should I send another application package with the “Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form” Section checked “No”

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

The errors of the form I know until now:

(1) Question 8 - line "Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form" appears in printed version
(2) Question 16, point 8 - part of point 8 might disappear in printed version
(3) Question 12, Header of the table increases once you edit the table again and save

Item 1 and 2 could cause an issue but not item 3.

1. Check 'No' if you are not using a rep with a pen after the form is printed.
2. Check if all questions under prohibitions are printed correctly.
3. This can be avoided if you fill the application form and print it BEFORE saving the form. Every time you save the form, am additional header is added to Q12.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

It has happened to other applicants who got their applications returned with issues with different questions under the same section. So recheck again guys before sending it.

Thanks @rafzy

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

just checked my application and I have the same issue. “Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form” is blank.
The question above “is someone helping you fill out this form” is checked “No”

Do you think my application will be returned?

should I send another application package with the “Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form” Section checked “No”

I'm not sure if you have to send in another application. You can check with others on the forum to see if someone in the same situation had their applications returned. You can make an informed decision based on that.

 

[royce110]

I'm not sure if you have to send in another application. You can check with others on the forum to see if someone in the same situation had their applications returned. You can make an informed decision based on that.

Thanks Raj. I have sent a message to the poster who said application was returned due to Q8
Q8 has 3 parts, part 2 only appears in the printed version.

I have selected No to part 1 & 3

Essentially, I am guessing if you select “No” to “Is someone helping you fill this form” then isnt it obvious that the next part does not apply... But lord knows how IRCC looks at the form..

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Thanks Raj. I have sent a message to the poster who said application was returned due to Q8
Q8 has 3 parts, part 2 only appears in the printed version.

I have selected No to part 1 & 3

Essentially, I am guessing if you select “No” to “Is someone helping you fill this form” then isnt it obvious that the next part does not apply... But lord knows how IRCC looks at the form..

Yup, it should be obvious to IRCC. This might not even be an issue but when it comes to dealing with IRCC, I'm all about crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's. Especially due to Covid, a returned application is going to cost us many months. Can't afford to take that risk. That is why, better safe than sorry.

 

[royce110]

Yup, it should be obvious to IRCC. This might not even be an issue but when it comes to dealing with IRCC, I'm all about crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's. Especially due to Covid, a returned application is going to cost us many months. Can't afford to take that risk. That is why, better safe than sorry.

True, I just got a response from the poster that the form was returned due to Q16 not Q8. I might start a tread just to confirm with other memebers.

 

[royce110]

Yup, it should be obvious to IRCC. This might not even be an issue but when it comes to dealing with IRCC, I'm all about crossing the 't's and dotting the 'i's. Especially due to Covid, a returned application is going to cost us many months. Can't afford to take that risk. That is why, better safe than sorry.

As an additional step I am going to post on IRCC’s twitter page regarding the same

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

True, I just got a response from the poster that the form was returned due to Q16 not Q8. I might start a tread just to confirm with other memebers.

I think it would be better to have all the discussion in this thread. We have already been discussing issues. If anyone faced any problems and you are aware of it, post it here.

 

[royce110]

To reiterate, those who have received AOR or have had their Application returned, could you please confirm if your application was accepted or returned due to the following;

Q8
“Are you paying someone to help you fill out this form” was left blank.

However the question: “Is someone helping you fill out this form?“ was checked No.