Travelling without PRTD - Urgent!

[canuck_in_uk]

Are PRTD's and ETA's reviewed at check in, I thought they just verbally checked and it was at Canada immigration that the physical check was performed.

If someone could clarify for me I'd be grateful.

The reason I ask is because when I flew to Canada in September they asked me if I had a ETA, Visa etc and I said I had a COPR but they didn't check. In fact I actually had an ETA and COPR because I'd applied for an ETA before my PR was approved. The check in person didn't seem to be able to verify either just from their system.

The purpose of a PRTD/PR card/eTA/visa is to show the airline that the person has the right to travel to Canada. CBSA doesn't actually require any of those documents to grant a person entry to Canada.

As said above, you traveled prior to the eTA requirement actually being implemented, so the airline was not required to check.

 

[COPRQuestion]

The purpose of a PRTD/PR card/eTA/visa is to show the airline that the person has the right to travel to Canada. CBSA doesn't actually require any of those documents to grant a person entry to Canada.

As said above, you traveled prior to the eTA requirement actually being implemented, so the airline was not required to check.

Ah right thanks, I thought the ETA system had been implemented already, thanks for letting me know

 

[scylla]

Ah right thanks, I thought the ETA system had been implemented already, thanks for letting me know

It's confusing because it was originally supposed to be implemented in March and was then postponed twice. They started issuing ETAs earlier this year (before it was mandatory) - but the rule only became official earlier this month. Before it became official, getting an ETA was suggested but not required.

Hope something works out for you.

 

[COPRQuestion]

It's confusing because it was originally supposed to be implemented in March and was then postponed twice. They started issuing ETAs earlier this year (before it was mandatory) - but the rule only became official earlier this month. Before it became official, getting an ETA was suggested but not required.

Hope something works out for you.

It's similar to Australia but they've had the system in place for some time now. they are a bit better at communicating it though I believe

I'm OK as I have a PRTD now and hopefully my PR card will be waiting in Vancouver when I arrive. Not sure about the OP though

 

[Canyon76]

Sadly no PRTD yet.

Brasil is in the dark ages with this, as I mentioned earlier, the visa people on phone didn't know I needed a PRTD if I was PR.

I am trying to find a same day service or a VAC/IRCC that can expedite process, but not looking good. There is too little information about it here.

This then begs the question, if a PR card holder got his wallet nicked in Rio, he would have to wait x weeks here to be able to get back in to Canada?. That is completely nuts.

 

[Rob_TO]

This then begs the question, if a PR card holder got his wallet nicked in Rio, he would have to wait x weeks here to be able to get back in to Canada?. That is completely nuts.

Yep that's exactly how it works.

Or the traveler would need to fly to a US city and drive into Canada.

 

[zardoz]

The reason for this situation is that the carrier bears the cost of returning a rejected passenger and may also be fined if they don't follow the rules for documents. This can end up being VERY expensive. Not unreasonably, they are not going to carry you based on your protestations of status.

 

[Canyon76]

Don't recall suggesting the airlines were being unreasonable. The process however is very limited and not at all well thought through.

It is possible to get emergency passports so bearing in mind the PR Card is so important there should be an option at VAC to manage emergency travel documents. I'm not for a second suggesting we fit in to that bracket. However, as mentioned already those people who may have had their document lost or stolen are.

Having said that if there is a need for a PRTD, it makes sense for the document to be required for people with COPR older than 3yrs. Then it is quite clear the holders may be at risk of no longer being able to complete obligatory residence. Those who have just received new COPR are pretty clearly still legal PR.

Half a job

Either way we will see what happens

 

[COPRQuestion]

Don't recall suggesting the airlines were being unreasonable. The process however is very limited and not at all well thought through.

It is possible to get emergency passports so bearing in mind the PR Card is so important there should be an option at VAC to manage emergency travel documents. I'm not for a second suggesting we fit in to that bracket. However, as mentioned already those people who may have had their document lost or stolen are.

Having said that if there is a need for a PRTD, it makes sense for the document to be required for people with COPR older than 3yrs. Then it is quite clear the holders may be at risk of no longer being able to complete obligatory residence. Those who have just received new COPR are pretty clearly still legal PR.

Half a job

Either way we will see what happens

I agree with you on this, there is a huge amount of emphasis now placed on actually having a PRTD. Therefore, it would make sense that every company who is engaged to provide the service should know about it.

The fact that the company in Rio doesn't actually know it's required is slightly worrying as I'm sure it goes against their SLA.