to maintain my PR, how is that 2 within 5 years residency works?

[Konica]

For example, I live in Canada in 2017 to 2018, then I live outside of Canada from 2019 to 2021. So In 2021, i come back in Canada, and renew my PR card. and leave the country from 2022 to 2024, then come back in Canada in 2025 to 2026, will that be a problem the next time when I want to renew my PR?

And What if I start my business in Canada, then I live somewhere else? Thanks!

 

[Rob_TO]

For example, I live in Canada in 2017 to 2018, then I live outside of Canada from 2019 to 2021. So In 2021, i come back in Canada, and renew my PR card. and leave the country from 2022 to 2024, then come back in Canada in 2025 to 2026, will that be a problem the next time when I want to renew my PR? Thanks!

Yes it will be a problem.

On any given day, you must meet 2 of the past 5 years residing in Canada. The expiry date on your PR card is completely irrelevant to you meeting the residency obligation.

 

[Konica]

Yes it will be a problem.

On any given day, you must meet 2 of the past 5 years residing in Canada. The expiry date on your PR card is completely irrelevant to you meeting the residency obligation.

thank you very much.

 

[Konica]

If I start a business in Canada, but I have to go outside of the country to expand my business. Do I also have to live 2 years within 5 in Canada? Thanks guys!

 

[scylla]

If I start a business in Canada, but I have to go outside of the country to expand my business. Do I also have to live 2 years within 5 in Canada? Thanks guys!

Yes - you still have to live in Canada for 2 out of every 5 years to keep PR. CIC closed this loop holes a long time ago (if they didn't, everyone would just start a business in Canada to avoid having to live in Canada to meet the residency requirement).

 

[knight17]

Yes it will be a problem.

On any given day, you must meet 2 of the past 5 years residing in Canada. The expiry date on your PR card is completely irrelevant to you meeting the residency obligation.

Residency obligation is to stay for 730 days in the last 5 years, according to Residency Obligations - CIC.gc.ca.

#1:

2017 - present
2018 - present
2019 - absent
2020 - absent
2021 - absent

Renews PR card at the end of 2021.

#2:

2022 - absent
2023 - absent
2024 - absent
2025 - present
2026 - present

present for 2/5 years when applying for renewal of PR card.

Are you sating that from 2024 there is a 6 year absence and because of that they wouldn't renew PR status the second time?

 

[Rob_TO]

Residency obligation is to stay for 730 days in the last 5 years, according to Residency Obligations - CIC.gc.ca.

#1:

2017 - present
2018 - present
2019 - absent
2020 - absent
2021 - absent

Renews PR card at the end of 2021.

#2:

2022 - absent
2023 - absent
2024 - absent
2025 - present
2026 - present

present for 2/5 years when applying for renewal of PR card.

Are you sating that from 2024 there is a 6 year absence and because of that they wouldn't renew PR status the second time?

In this scenario, he would be in violation of the RO starting in 2022. in 2025 (or anytime before while in violation of RO) when he attempts to return to Canada, there is a good chance CBSA will report him upon entry to Canada for not meeting the RO, and start process to revoke PR status.

If he can somehow "sneak" back into Canada without being reported, stay 2 straight years without leaving, only then would he be ok to renew PR card.

 

[Konica]

Thank you every one, i understand this now.

 

[FREDOBO]

In this scenario, he would be in violation of the RO starting in 2022. in 2025 (or anytime before while in violation of RO) when he attempts to return to Canada, there is a good chance CBSA will report him upon entry to Canada for not meeting the RO, and start process to revoke PR status.

If he can somehow "sneak" back into Canada without being reported, stay 2 straight years without leaving, only then would he be ok to renew PR card.

How else would the officer at the airport know apart from the stamp out date on my passport from the Country am coming from? Let say I left Canada 6 months and Am coming in with a passport stamped along my PR card that says I arrived at that country 2 weeks ago. And I lie to say I left 2 weeks ago rather than 6 months?

 

[scylla]

How else would the officer at the airport know apart from the stamp out date on my passport from the Country am coming from? Let say I left Canada 6 months and Am coming in with a passport stamped along my PR card that says I arrived at that country 2 weeks ago. And I lie to say I left 2 weeks ago rather than 6 months?

CBSA has access to airline manifests and other information.

Again, no one here is going to help you lie. You should never lie to CBSA.

 

[okatanani]

Yes - you still have to live in Canada for 2 out of every 5 years to keep PR. CIC closed this loop holes a long time ago (if they didn't, everyone would just start a business in Canada to avoid having to live in Canada to meet the residency requirement).

Thank you for the clarification, it makes scene...is there a clear specifications on the company that I will be working for outside Canada while still being eligible to get my PR renewed?

 

[scylla]

Thank you for the clarification, it makes scene...is there a clear specifications on the company that I will be working for outside Canada while still being eligible to get my PR renewed?

Based on what we've seen here, you need to first be hired by the company for a full time job in Canada. At a later date you can then be transferred to a role outside of Canada. This is the scenario that allows you to count the time outside of Canada towards RO.

If you are hired directly for a role outside of Canada or if you set up your own company - then CIC generally doesn't allow you to count the time outside of Canada towards PR.

 

[Rob_TO]

Based on what we've seen here, you need to first be hired by the company for a full time job in Canada. At a later date you can then be transferred to a role outside of Canada. This is the scenario that allows you to count the time outside of Canada towards RO.

To add, the position outside Canada is intended to be temporary. with the assumption that you'll return to Canada to continue working after the job is completed.

 

[okatanani]

To add, the position outside Canada is intended to be temporary. with the assumption that you'll return to Canada to continue working after the job is completed.

Thank you and Scylla for the answer, it is very clear.. but what if the work were for a government entity like an embassy?

 

[Rob_TO]

Thank you and Scylla for the answer, it is very clear.. but what if the work were for a government entity like an embassy?

If you were working in Canada's embassy, that may be ok.

However any other country's government and it won't help at all.