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Tips for 2016 (Future) PGP Applicants

rammy_xyz

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Jul 9, 2015
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FAM
Visa Office......
NDVO
Please advise, if your family size has changed during 3 years before the application, the minimum necessary income criteria should be met for each year depending on the family size for that year or it should meet the income criteria as of the family size at the time of application?
 

242088

Member
Jan 5, 2016
15
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Rossei said:
Background Check is primarily done on the sponsored persons and their dependents, not the sponsor. CIC won't call your mom to verify your info. If they need to do it (which is unlikely at PR processing stage); they can do it within Canada by contacting local police, RCMP, CBSA, CSIS etc.

Few things that CIC would normally verify during Background Check on PR Applicants:
  • Name check with various database
  • Travel history
  • Personal history (work, live, travel)
  • Police clearance report
  • Criminal history (breaking laws, ongoing investigation etc.)

During the check. the following things may trigger red flags and thus prolong the processing:
  • Any name match with certain blacklisted individual from various database
  • Frequent travel & prolonged stay in 'certain' countries
  • Past working in law-enforcement agencies
  • Any involvement in 'certain' organizations
  • Any violation/deportation in admission to other countries
  • Found guilty on crime/violation of any law

qorax explained it well in his thread: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/background-checks-explained-t39578.0.html
Thank you so much for your reply! does this mean the less visits outside the home country the better? my parents have almost a blank passport, do they need to make some travel records now?
 

Rossei

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2010
2,663
443
Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Yes
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
18-Jan-2011 (Buffalo)
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
26-Nov-2010
AOR Received.
21-Jul-2011 (Email)
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
25-Jul-2011 (Reg. Mail)
Med's Done....
03-Aug-2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
08-Sep-2011 (Email)
VISA ISSUED...
20-Sep-2011 (Buffalo)
LANDED..........
20-Sep-2011 (Niagara)
242088 said:
Thank you so much for your reply! does this mean the less visits outside the home country the better? my parents have almost a blank passport, do they need to make some travel records now?
The less travel, the better for BG Check. It's not TRV.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,722
22,025
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
rammy_xyz said:
Please advise, if your family size has changed during 3 years before the application, the minimum necessary income criteria should be met for each year depending on the family size for that year or it should meet the income criteria as of the family size at the time of application?
It's family size at the time of application.

So you need to take your current family size including your parents - and then have to meet LICO for that family size for 2013, 2014 and 2015 to apply in 2017.
 

Noui

Full Member
Nov 29, 2016
26
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Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-01-2016
Doc's Request.
CSQ_23-06-2016, Submitted Oct. 2016
AOR Received.
01-02-2016
File Transfer...
13-06-2016
Med's Request
23-06-2016
Med's Done....
28-07-2016
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
13-04-2017
VISA ISSUED...
01-05-2017
LANDED..........
01-05-2017
Rossei said:
Column 'F', Payment Charge Date, refers to when your initial payment to CPC-M was charged right after application submission. This has nothing to do with RPRF. The first 5000 had seen their credit card being charged in January and the last 5000 had their time in March.
Hi Rossei,
Your are right, I just checked my credit card previous statements. The initial payment to CPC-M was charged 18-Jan-2016. Sorry I forgot completely this info.
I did an update on the row 10 in new entry sheet with the correct date and I added a note on the RPRF paiement date (21-July-2016). Please update.

Thank you
 

kilamans

Hero Member
Feb 14, 2013
232
15
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga jan '16
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Credit card charged jan '16
AOR Received.
AOR - Feb '16
File Transfer...
Ottawa Aug '16
Med's Request
Oct '16 & for PCC
Med's Done....
Nov '16 & for PCC
scylla said:
It's family size at the time of application.

So you need to take your current family size including your parents - and then have to meet LICO for that family size for 2013, 2014 and 2015 to apply in 2017.
scylla,
i really doubt on that note, expecting the family count as of today(applying date) for last 3 years, expecting for the future income is possible
example, i am single, i am pgp2016
2012 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2013 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2014 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3

Now my application is in process and if for next 2 years it takes to process, then CIC asks

2015 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2016 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2017 - if i am married, then my family is 4, then my income category should meet 4 for 2017, and its practical that my spouse supports me on the income, which can meet the LICO table
2018 - i got twins, then it becomes 6
2019 - CIC asks for income proof, so for 2018, i should meet the income category 6, NOT for all the years from 2012

and this same logic should apply at the time of applying in 2016

'NOT' was missed
 

canadian_legend

Full Member
Sep 2, 2015
35
4
So I called CIC today and got a wonderful girl who was extremely helpful.

However, she told me that parents who have spent time in Canada, even over 6 months, do NOT require police clearance from Canada unless specifically mentioned/requested by CIC.
For all other countries where total time is over 6 months we need police clearance.

What is forum's opinion on this?

Thanks,
 

Amarpreetd

Star Member
Jan 11, 2016
103
7
canadian_legend said:
So I called CIC today and got a wonderful girl who was extremely helpful.

However, she told me that parents who have spent time in Canada, even over 6 months, do NOT require police clearance from Canada unless specifically mentioned/requested by CIC.
For all other countries where total time is over 6 months we need police clearance.

What forum's opinion on this?

Thanks,
she gave you the right info.....
 

Noui

Full Member
Nov 29, 2016
26
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Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-01-2016
Doc's Request.
CSQ_23-06-2016, Submitted Oct. 2016
AOR Received.
01-02-2016
File Transfer...
13-06-2016
Med's Request
23-06-2016
Med's Done....
28-07-2016
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
13-04-2017
VISA ISSUED...
01-05-2017
LANDED..........
01-05-2017
My mother is currently in Canada, LVO is in Paris. All the required documents have already been transmitted, the medical visit is made as well as the RPRF payment. The status in the Ecas is "in process" (Medical results have been received).
My question is: If she receives the PPR, must she return to her country to have the PR visa? Or, can she get her PR visa here in Canada?
Thank you.
 

myYahoo

Star Member
Aug 4, 2013
111
5
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
26-07-2013
AOR Received.
26-09-2013
Med's Request
03-03-2014
Med's Done....
05-03-2014
Passport Req..
17-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
25-03-2014
LANDED..........
28-03-2014
Noui said:
My mother is currently in Canada, LVO is in Paris. All the required documents have already been transmitted, the medical visit is made as well as the RPRF payment. The status in the Ecas is "in process" (Medical results have been received).
My question is: If she receives the PPR, must she return to her country to have the PR visa? Or, can she get her PR visa here in Canada?
Thank you.
Visa Stamping can be done anywhere in the world where you are present.
 

Rossei

Champion Member
Jun 6, 2010
2,663
443
Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Yes
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
18-Jan-2011 (Buffalo)
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
26-Nov-2010
AOR Received.
21-Jul-2011 (Email)
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
25-Jul-2011 (Reg. Mail)
Med's Done....
03-Aug-2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
08-Sep-2011 (Email)
VISA ISSUED...
20-Sep-2011 (Buffalo)
LANDED..........
20-Sep-2011 (Niagara)
kilamans said:
scylla,
i really doubt on that note, expecting the family count as of today(applying date) for last 3 years, expecting for the future income is possible
example, i am single, i am pgp2016
2012 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2013 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2014 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3

Now my application is in process and if for next 2 years it takes to process, then CIC asks

2015 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2016 - i am single, so my family size is myself + dad+mom = 3
2017 - if i am married, then my family is 4, then my income category should meet 4 for 2017, and its practical that my spouse supports me on the income, which can meet the LICO table
2018 - i got twins, then it becomes 6
2019 - CIC asks for income proof, so for 2018, i should meet the income category 6, for all the years from 2012

and this same logic should apply at the time of applying in 2016
The bold section is not true. CIC isn't that dumb.

If your family size increases during processing (after application submission), then CIC may ask for latest NOA to see if you still meet the income requirements for increased family size. They wouldn't reject you as a sponsor if you didn't meet MNI from the initially submitted NOA for the newly increased family.
 

proulx

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Jun 23, 2015
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ElenaRu said:
Thanks a lot! I`ve got only CSQ request... :'(
hi elenaru, you are not alone. i got letter from cic asking request for my mom's CSQ...i just received CSQ approval last tuesday, after almost 3 months of waiting. hoping for medical, police clearance and passport request soon.

-proulx-
 

Ywcat

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Jan 6, 2016
23
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Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
OTTAWA
App. Filed.......
05-01-2016
AOR Received.
16-05-2016
File Transfer...
02-08-2016
Med's Request
07-02-2017
Med's Done....
08-12-2016
proulx said:
hi elenaru, you are not alone. i got letter from cic asking request for my mom's CSQ...i just received CSQ approval last tuesday, after almost 3 months of waiting. hoping for medical, police clearance and passport request soon.

-proulx-
We are in the same boat. I just received CSQ last week, and I sent a copy by Email to CIC right away. I hope they can do something if they got the email. :D ;D