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Timing the application, security clearances and medical

sounion

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So I was wondering, can I send in my application first with a note saying that the medical and security clearances have been sent away for?

I just want to get this in, but the security clearances take awhile and then I went for the medical but they have to send the results and everything.

Thanks

p.s. this is inland application
 

computergeek

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sounion said:
So I was wondering, can I send in my application first with a note saying that the medical and security clearances have been sent away for?

I just want to get this in, but the security clearances take awhile and then I went for the medical but they have to send the results and everything.

Thanks

p.s. this is inland application
An inland application can be sent without medicals but sending it in without police clearance certificates is likely to have it returned to you as incomplete.

It's always best to submit a complete application, as it ensures the smoothest flow through the system. Sending it in early in hopes of getting faster processing time is likely to actually slow it down.
 

NicJohn

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05-11-2013
I also applied inland. I sent along with my application my Police Certificates and reciepts from the doctor for the medical, as the doctor will send them.

The reciepts prove that the medicals were done. I have heard if everything is sent in all at once, it can actually make the process quicker.. As they do not need to ask for anything else to be sent in, which holds the application up until they recieve it.
 

sounion

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Med's Done....
24-10-2012
Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
I understand. The only problem is that the security clearances that we require will most likely take 6 months to get as they come from Uganda (not the fastest institutions) and Bhutan (a place that rarely has foreigners ask for police clearance as it's uncommon to live there past 6 months). My wife mentioned that someone told her that we can send it in without the clearances but attach a letter that states that the clearances have been sent away for. Is this allowable?

Second part, once I submit the application, do I have implied status? Do I get implied status if clearances are pending?


Cheers
 

computergeek

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11-02-2012
Interview........
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sounion said:
I understand. The only problem is that the security clearances that we require will most likely take 6 months to get as they come from Uganda (not the fastest institutions) and Bhutan (a place that rarely has foreigners ask for police clearance as it's uncommon to live there past 6 months). My wife mentioned that someone told her that we can send it in without the clearances but attach a letter that states that the clearances have been sent away for. Is this allowable?
Generally it's not advisable. Usually it will make your application processing slower than if you waited and submitted a completed application. But if you think it's going to take 6+ months to obtain, you may wish to note this to the VO - that you cannot easily obtain these nor predict the timing of them, and thus you are submitting your information now before it goes stable and you will forward the PCCs as they become available. The PCCs are not required for first stage approval.

Note that criminal checks (PCCs) are not the same as security checks (performed by CSIS).

sounion said:
Second part, once I submit the application, do I have implied status? Do I get implied status if clearances are pending?
If they accept it as complete, yes. If they do not, no. That's the downside to submitting an incomplete application - implied status only applies for receipt of a complete application. So you won't be safe until you get the AOR for the application. Once they give you an AOR, then you know they've accepted the application for processing.
 

sounion

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Would you advise then, extending my temporary resident visa in the meantime? How long does it take to get an AOR?
 

computergeek

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sounion said:
Would you advise then, extending my temporary resident visa in the meantime? How long does it take to get an AOR?
Oh, absolutely. Keep yourself in status - you can apply for a restoration of status, but that's an extra $200, so it's definitely not worth it.

For inland applications AOR seems to happen about 4-6 weeks before they do stage 1 - so approximately 4 months.
 

sounion

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20-11-2013
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20-11-2013
Okay will do.

What is AOR, and PCC?
 

weary-damsil31

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computergeek said:
Oh, absolutely. Keep yourself in status - you can apply for a restoration of status, but that's an extra $200, so it's definitely not worth it.

For inland applications AOR seems to happen about 4-6 weeks before they do stage 1 - so approximately 4 months.
Computergeek,you made me worried..:( we never get any AOR yet but it's been 2-3 weeks now that i can access to ecas and see that they received our application on June 7. some people in the spreadsheet of june for the 2012 inland applicants reported that they got their AOR already. this is really stressing me out. :( any advise pls.?
 

sounion

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Med's Done....
24-10-2012
Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
oooh one more thing.

I just did my medical. I'm assuming the doctor sends that off to someone. What happens if it arrives before my application?

Or am I getting what happens completely wrong.
 

computergeek

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21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
sounion said:
Okay will do.

What is AOR, and PCC?
AOR = Acknowledgment of Receipt

PCC = Police Clearance Certificate
 

computergeek

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Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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weary-damsil31 said:
Computergeek,you made me worried..:( we never get any AOR yet but it's been 2-3 weeks now that i can access to ecas and see that they received our application on June 7. some people in the spreadsheet of june for the 2012 inland applicants reported that they got their AOR already. this is really stressing me out. :( any advise pls.?
Not everyone seems to receive an AOR. If you can see your file in e-cas, it means they have your file. With a June 7 received date, I'd expect you could be hearing from them in the next 4-6 weeks (for AIP/Stage 1 approval).
 

computergeek

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Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
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VISA ISSUED...
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sounion said:
oooh one more thing.

I just did my medical. I'm assuming the doctor sends that off to someone. What happens if it arrives before my application?

Or am I getting what happens completely wrong.
Two separate systems. It means that someone will look in the immigration medical system and find your results and match them up with your application. Don't worry, they do this all the time.
 

misscanada

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computergeek said:
Oh, absolutely. Keep yourself in status - you can apply for a restoration of status, but that's an extra $200, so it's definitely not worth it.

For inland applications AOR seems to happen about 4-6 weeks before they do stage 1 - so approximately 4 months.


Hi, It is correct. I am apllying inland and sent out my application in June 07th,2012. Only on October 16th,2012 we got AOR.
 

sounion

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Med's Done....
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Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
Okay thanks computergeek, thanks misscanada