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timing of language tests

Hoogenband

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I understand Express Entry can take a few years, especially for those with no Canadian job experience or offers. To start the process, you have to provide info re education, work experience and language test results.

What's to stop me from lying about having done the language tests? Once my application has progressed (maybe 1-2 years later) and they want to see the test results, couldn't I just say 'oh sorry, I've lost them, ... but look, I did another test last month, here are the results, proving my high levels of English and French'
Surely, as long you get approx the same number of points as you initially claimed, there's no problem, right?

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Asivad Anac

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Nothing except the risk of possible being banned for misrepresentation.

When you create the EE profile, you are asked to provide a unique reference number for your language test along with test date and score details. You can certainly input random gibberish there and the system wouldn't bother cross-verifying that immediately. But if this score then gets you invited, you are given only 60 days in which to submit all the original documents. That will be a pretty steep challenge then to book a test and get the 'required' score (as inputted previously) so that you can get past the ITA hurdle.

And even if you do hoodwink the system, any CIC officer will only have to notice the date on your test results to figure out your neat little scheme and refuse you at best or charge you with misrepresentation and ban you from applying to CIC for 5 years, at worst. Not the most efficient way of immigrating, if you ask me.

All the best!
 

Hoogenband

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thanks for the reply. I take your point. But couldn't I just say, 'oh sorry - I've actually lost the test results. I moved house ...' Then I could just show them some more recent test results (60 days would be a challenge but certainly doable) . Of course, the score wouldn't be exactly the same, but as long as it was within certain thresholds, then my scheme might work. (well, 'scheme' is the wrong word, I wouldn't describe this as ethically dubious). Besides, I think, with the language results, after a year or so, they lose validity.
 

Asivad Anac

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Language tests are valid for 2 years. Yes, you can certainly lose the test results, even for real, but that will only prompt CIC to refuse your application. If you cannot provide the exact same test results to them - test date, scores in each of the section and reference number should all match with what was declared earlier. They won't accept alternate test results but would expect you to contact your test administrator to get a 'duplicate' report of the originally declared test - and you won't be able to explain your inability to procure that.

Not worth it.
 

Hoogenband

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Thanks for the info - very useful to know. Hmm, I think I'll want to move to Canada a few years from now. Well, I'll keep reading and researching.
 

EFK

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Just a quick question... why would you assume that it will take "a few years" to get the PR?
If you have the required score, you can get an ITA immediately... and if you submit all your documents upon receipt of ITA, the entire process can technically be completed within 6-7 months... some have even got their PR within 2 - 3 months of sending all the documents...
IELTS is valid 2 years.. and need to just get your education documents equivalency done... once these 2 are done, you can create an EE profile immediately..
 

Hoogenband

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6-7 months? Really? That's interesting. I'm no expert, I just had the impression it took longer than that, especially for people like me who wouldn't get maximum points (no job offer, Canadian job experience etc). IELTS is valid for 2 years, so I presume the other documents, health etc, are also valid for at least that period.
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EFK

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All FSW outland are in the same position as you: no job letter and no Canadian experience..
As long as you get the required points, you are all good... that can be easily attainable with CLB 9 in IELTS, 3 years foreign experience, and a Masters or Bachelors degree (depending on age)..

Medicals are valid for 1 year from when they are done: need to land within 1 year of medicals.. this is usually done after the ITA is received.
PCC is also valid 1 year for current country of residence... for any countries where you have lived in the past, it only needs to be dated after you stopped living there..
ECA evaluation is valid 5 years
IELTS is valid 2 years
 

Creon

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agree with the others. please don't risk yourself.

apart from them banning you, they may also make the process harder for others also.