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Thread for Outland LONDON, UK Applications!

Gatawa04

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Jan 9, 2014
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Ipswich
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29/01/2014
AOR Received.
28/02/2014
Med's Done....
25/01/2014
Hi all

i am in panic mode a bit, got an email from LVO and they are asking me to explain what " No live trace" on my police certificate means. I was cautioned for assault in 2008.
- Should i have mentioned this when i filled my application?
- Will this have an impact on the outcome of application?
-will tbis delay my application?
- In responding do i just put the details, dates and the Police force involved or do i explain the whole incident who was in involved and what it was about?

Anyone in a similar situation or any advice will be appreciated
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Gatawa04 said:
Hi all

i am in panic mode a bit, got an email from LVO and they are asking me to explain what " No live trace" on my police certificate means. I was cautioned for assault in 2008.
- Should i have mentioned this when i filled my application?
- Will this have an impact on the outcome of application?
-will tbis delay my application?
- In responding do i just put the details, dates and the Police force involved or do i explain the whole incident who was in involved and what it was about?

Anyone in a similar situation or any advice will be appreciated
Yes, you should have.. A police caution in the UK is an admission of guilt.
Yes, it might do.
Probably not, especially if they accuse you of misrepresentation...
You will probably have to give them "chapter and verse" now, as they have latched onto it.
 

taffy7

Champion Member
May 23, 2013
2,482
69
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
zardoz said:
Yes, you should have.. A police caution in the UK is an admission of guilt.
Yes, it might do.
Probably not, especially if they accuse you of misrepresentation...
You will probably have to give them "chapter and verse" now, as they have latched onto it.

My 21 year old came back with no live trace and he has never been arrested , detained or convicted nothing . I thought this was a good thing. He don't have as much as a parking ticket .
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
taffy7 said:
My 21 year old came back with no live trace and he has never been arrested , detained or convicted nothing . I thought this was a good thing. He don't have as much as a parking ticket .
NO LIVE TRACE indicates that information exists on the PNC.
NO TRACE is completely clean.
 

taffy7

Champion Member
May 23, 2013
2,482
69
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
zardoz said:
NO LIVE TRACE indicates that information exists on the PNC.
NO TRACE is completely clean.

Right ! i just looked again , it had no trace on one, live trace on the other . I sent explanation of the no live trace . Zardoz you here yet?
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
taffy7 said:
Right ! i just looked again , it had no trace on one, live trace on the other . I sent explanation of the no live trace . Zardoz you here yet?
Still stuck in the UK, waiting for our house buyer to sell her house... Sigh...
 

taffy7

Champion Member
May 23, 2013
2,482
69
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
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zardoz said:
Still stuck in the UK, waiting for our house buyer to sell her house... Sigh...
:( :( :( :( :( :(
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
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Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
taffy7 said:
Indeed. She is getting a real bargain as well, and she knows it. Hence, I don't think that she'll back out. It's just a matter of time.
 

taffy7

Champion Member
May 23, 2013
2,482
69
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
Lets hope you get here for the summer :)
 

Gatawa04

Full Member
Jan 9, 2014
27
0
Ipswich
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29/01/2014
AOR Received.
28/02/2014
Med's Done....
25/01/2014
zardoz said:
Yes, you should have.. A police caution in the UK is an admission of guilt.
Yes, it might do.
Probably not, especially if they accuse you of misrepresentation...
You will probably have to give them "chapter and verse" now, as they have latched onto it.
This is turning out to be a nightmare, just been through all my forms on the application pack and to my horror i found that on Shedule A Background declaration IMM 3669E Question 6J i ticked the No box instead of Yes. In my part i missunderstood what detained meant. I took it it meant being lockec up afterbeing convicted. I was held at a police station for the booking process and the released after a couple of hours , the charges were dropped and i never went to court but was cautioned instead.

My question now
- should i be explaining my mistake to the case officer?
- should i be getting an immigration lawyer?
If so does anyone know of a good Canadian immigration lawyer in the UK preferably in and around London

any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Gatawa04 said:
This is turning out to be a nightmare, just been through all my forms on the application pack and to my horror i found that on Shedule A Background declaration IMM 3669E Question 6J i ticked the No box instead of Yes. In my part i missunderstood what detained meant. I took it it meant being lockec up afterbeing convicted. I was held at a police station for the booking process and the released after a couple of hours , the charges were dropped and i never went to court but was cautioned instead.

My question now
- should i be explaining my mistake to the case officer?
- should i be getting an immigration lawyer?
If so does anyone know of a good Canadian immigration lawyer in the UK preferably in and around London

any ideas or help will be greatly appreciated
Yes, you should try to explain in detail to the case officer, emphasising the misunderstanding of the question(s). I really don't think an immigration lawyer will help at this point. Maybe keep that in your back pocket for later, especially if you are refused on the grounds of "misrepresentation", as that carries a two year exclusion ban.

You are probably aware of the following, but for other readers who may not understand a "Police Caution" in the UK. https://www.gov.uk/caution-warning-penalty
 

bmore321

Star Member
May 24, 2013
150
1
Canada (TWP)
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-09-2013
Doc's Request.
12-12-2013 FBI Police Report
AOR Received.
08-10-2013
File Transfer...
08-10-2013
Med's Done....
17-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
25-04-2014 Received COPR 3-5-2014
LANDED..........
19-05-2014
Help - I got this email back from CIC. Are they asking me and my spouse to fill forms IMM5406E and IMM5669E? For form IMM5669E, we filled it for the last 10 years because it is most recent, now they are asking from 18th birthday.

"In order to continue the processing of your application, I require the completion of the following information:
- Family Information Form for yourself and your sponsor.

- Schedule A – we require information from age 18 to date. You have provided information from February 2003, please could you complete Q8 personal history and Q12 addresses from September 1991 until February 2003.


Please forward this information to us within 30 days. To expedite the processing of your application, you may scan and email this information. Please mark any email correspondence for the attention of CDD. "
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
bmore321 said:
Help - I got this email back from CIC. Are they asking me and my spouse to fill forms IMM5406E and IMM5669E? For form IMM5669E, we filled it for the last 10 years because it is most recent, now they are asking from 18th birthday.

"In order to continue the processing of your application, I require the completion of the following information:
- Family Information Form for yourself and your sponsor.

- Schedule A – we require information from age 18 to date. You have provided information from February 2003, please could you complete Q8 personal history and Q12 addresses from September 1991 until February 2003.


Please forward this information to us within 30 days. To expedite the processing of your application, you may scan and email this information. Please mark any email correspondence for the attention of CDD. "
Yeah, London, along with some other Visa Offices, have started doing that. I personally believe that they are incorrect in their following of the documented process, but what are you going to do... Same happened to me last year. For some of us, back to "18" is a very long time...
 

bmore321

Star Member
May 24, 2013
150
1
Canada (TWP)
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-09-2013
Doc's Request.
12-12-2013 FBI Police Report
AOR Received.
08-10-2013
File Transfer...
08-10-2013
Med's Done....
17-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
25-04-2014 Received COPR 3-5-2014
LANDED..........
19-05-2014
zardoz said:
Yeah, London, along with some other Visa Offices, have started doing that. I personally believe that they are incorrect in their following of the documented process, but what are you going to do... Same happened to me last year. For some of us, back to "18" is a very long time...

How long after you sent them the information did you get the visa or heard from them?
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
bmore321 said:
How long after you sent them the information did you get the visa or heard from them?
It was about 6 weeks after sending them the updated info that it changed to "DM" state. I'll take a look at my GCMS notes and see if there was anything relevant in there about this process. Then, I'll update this post.

Update:

Their request: 03/06/13 (Email)
I responded: 03/06/13 (Special delivery - 9am Next Day)
They updated: 14/06/13 (Yes, it really did take them 10 days!!)
Decision made: 23/07/13 (Even if they did get it wrong to start with)