this will be a long post.

[sisodia_1995]

Hi everyone , I have some quick questions to get my doubts clear. I have been planning and researching on and about the study visa and the pros and cons of it. I belong to a middle class family. I have completed my Advance Diploma in Hospitality management from I.I.H.M. Kolkata and also obtained a degree of B.Sc. in Hospitality management from Bhartiyar University through their distance learning program as my college was affiliated to this university. I graduated in 2015 for 6 months i was engaged with a consultancy which promised to get me a job in Australia through the 457 visa which came out as a scam and we lost a good chunk of money there . after this horrible experience I got a job in Indigo airlines as a ground staff and i have recently left my job after completing 3 years with the organization. I had plans to join another major airline but due to the pandemic everything went down the drain.

Very shortly after i thought my ship is sinking and there is nothing to hold on to i found out about my friend who is enrolled in a course at Fanshaw college . He suggested me to take a chance at this and have a better future. I discussed the same with my family as i am the youngest one in the family , my elder brother is branch manager in Indian bank and so does my sister in law, my dad has retired last month as Deputy commandant in BSF after serving for 35 years . I am telling you all this to understand the situation i am in, financial resources are limited but we are ready to take the risk. My dad has made it very clear that this is going to be a one way ticket for me, its on me now i make it or break it. so i have been researching about this study visa for a while now so here are my finding and doubts , please debunk any myths or false information I might have accepted.

:> my goal is to enroll for at least 2 year study program in hospitality and tourism , which grants me 3 years of work permit so that i could make my place there and have a strong case for my PR application.
> the doubt i am carrying under this idea is #do all courses be it diploma or masters or graduation which lasts for 2 years results in 3 years of PGWP?
#is hospitality and tourism sector in demand & does it come under skilled worker class ?
# what is the probability of my PR being successful being in hospitality service sector?
# Is PGWP a open work permit? am i restricted to work only in the field of my graduation?
# looking for a permanent job, how difficult or competitive could it be?
> Can i reapply for my Passport renewal while in Canada with my PGWP? i did check that while on work permit its possible to renew your passport while in the host country also can we apply for Indian passport renewal at least 1 year prior to expiry?

> Is LMIA applicable in all the provinces of Canada and is hospitality sector exempted ?
#is LMIA actually tough to obtain even being a permanent employee at the organization?
#How long can i expect to stay and work in Canada with BOWP and if my Express Entry is rejected what options do i have?
#in which sectors is LMIA easily presented by the employer?

>being in Canada for 5 years - 2yo study and 3 years of PGWP i have planned to apply for PR after 3rd year when i have 1 year of permanent job experience. what is the probability that i might get my PR by the end of my PGWP?

>Do i really need an consultant in India or should i directly approach the institute and apply for visa ?

>do different province in Canada have varying immigration laws? like applying from one province i might have better chances at PR?

>Can i apply for PGWP while in Canada or do i have to apply at the border?

>i have found out that most of my friends who travelled to US on J1 visa hired a lawyer and somehow extended their stay . they have left India in 2015 on J1 visa and are still there to this day? how is this possible? are there loopholes in the system?

> will my case get treated differently if i get a diploma certificate or go for a masters graduate from Canadian university while applying for PR?


Thank you guys for being patient and reading through this huge post. Everything rests on my shoulder and i want to place every foot firmly. I will be watching this space for answers. . take care and stay safe.

 

[scylla]

Hi everyone , I have some quick questions to get my doubts clear. I have been planning and researching on and about the study visa and the pros and cons of it. I belong to a middle class family. I have completed my Advance Diploma in Hospitality management from I.I.H.M. Kolkata and also obtained a degree of B.Sc. in Hospitality management from Bhartiyar University through their distance learning program as my college was affiliated to this university. I graduated in 2015 for 6 months i was engaged with a consultancy which promised to get me a job in Australia through the 457 visa which came out as a scam and we lost a good chunk of money there . after this horrible experience I got a job in Indigo airlines as a ground staff and i have recently left my job after completing 3 years with the organization. I had plans to join another major airline but due to the pandemic everything went down the drain.

Very shortly after i thought my ship is sinking and there is nothing to hold on to i found out about my friend who is enrolled in a course at Fanshaw college . He suggested me to take a chance at this and have a better future. I discussed the same with my family as i am the youngest one in the family , my elder brother is branch manager in Indian bank and so does my sister in law, my dad has retired last month as Deputy commandant in BSF after serving for 35 years . I am telling you all this to understand the situation i am in, financial resources are limited but we are ready to take the risk. My dad has made it very clear that this is going to be a one way ticket for me, its on me now i make it or break it. so i have been researching about this study visa for a while now so here are my finding and doubts , please debunk any myths or false information I might have accepted.

:> my goal is to enroll for at least 2 year study program in hospitality and tourism , which grants me 3 years of work permit so that i could make my place there and have a strong case for my PR application.
> the doubt i am carrying under this idea is #do all courses be it diploma or masters or graduation which lasts for 2 years results in 3 years of PGWP?
#is hospitality and tourism sector in demand & does it come under skilled worker class ?
# what is the probability of my PR being successful being in hospitality service sector?
# Is PGWP a open work permit? am i restricted to work only in the field of my graduation?
# looking for a permanent job, how difficult or competitive could it be?
> Can i reapply for my Passport renewal while in Canada with my PGWP? i did check that while on work permit its possible to renew your passport while in the host country also can we apply for Indian passport renewal at least 1 year prior to expiry?

> Is LMIA applicable in all the provinces of Canada and is hospitality sector exempted ?
#is LMIA actually tough to obtain even being a permanent employee at the organization?
#How long can i expect to stay and work in Canada with BOWP and if my Express Entry is rejected what options do i have?
#in which sectors is LMIA easily presented by the employer?

>being in Canada for 5 years - 2yo study and 3 years of PGWP i have planned to apply for PR after 3rd year when i have 1 year of permanent job experience. what is the probability that i might get my PR by the end of my PGWP?

>Do i really need an consultant in India or should i directly approach the institute and apply for visa ?

>do different province in Canada have varying immigration laws? like applying from one province i might have better chances at PR?

>Can i apply for PGWP while in Canada or do i have to apply at the border?

>i have found out that most of my friends who travelled to US on J1 visa hired a lawyer and somehow extended their stay . they have left India in 2015 on J1 visa and are still there to this day? how is this possible? are there loopholes in the system?

> will my case get treated differently if i get a diploma certificate or go for a masters graduate from Canadian university while applying for PR?


Thank you guys for being patient and reading through this huge post. Everything rests on my shoulder and i want to place every foot firmly. I will be watching this space for answers. . take care and stay safe.

Your post is a bit scattered. I'll help with a few questions. My biggest suggestion is that you dedicate significant more time to researching information on the IRCC web site. If you want to do this without a consultant / lawyer, this means you need to be prepared to do a lot of reading and research on your own. Many of the questions you have asked are very basic which indicates you haven't spent any real time researching.

None of us can tell you what your chances are of getting PR and studying in Canada does not guarantee PR. Suggest you dedicate time to researching the Express Entry program. This is a points based immigration program and you want to have around 470+ points to have a good chance of being selected. Calculate how many points you think you will have once you finish your studies in Canada and worked a few years in Canada and this will give you an idea of your chances for getting PR. Details in the link below:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/works.html

Yes, each province has its own immigration program with different rules. Again, you'll need to dedicate time to researching these programs to understand what it takes to qualify and apply. Yes, you can certainly apply for all of these programs on your own without a consultant or lawyer, but again, this means you need to do the research on your own.

Yes, you willl have a higher chance of getting PR with a masters vs. diploma.

Jobs in the hospitality sector are not in demand right now due to COVID-19. None of us can predict where things will stand in the future. Some hospitality jobs are skilled and others aren't.

It's very difficult to find employers willing to go through the LMIA process. Assume you won't be able to do this in the hospitality sector since there are plenty of Canadians available for these jobs.

If you have questions about U.S. visas, please post these to a U.S. immigration forum.

 

[sisodia_1995]

Your post is a bit scattered. I'll help with a few questions. My biggest suggestion is that you dedicate significant more time to researching information on the IRCC web site. If you want to do this without a consultant / lawyer, this means you need to be prepared to do a lot of reading and research on your own. Many of the questions you have asked are very basic which indicates you haven't spent any real time researching.

None of us can tell you what your chances are of getting PR and studying in Canada does not guarantee PR. Suggest you dedicate time to researching the Express Entry program. This is a points based immigration program and you want to have around 470+ points to have a good chance of being selected. Calculate how many points you think you will have once you finish your studies in Canada and worked a few years in Canada and this will give you an idea of your chances for getting PR. Details in the link below:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/works.html

Yes, each province has its own immigration program with different rules. Again, you'll need to dedicate time to researching these programs to understand what it takes to qualify and apply. Yes, you can certainly apply for all of these programs on your own without a consultant or lawyer, but again, this means you need to do the research on your own.

Yes, you willl have a higher chance of getting PR with a masters vs. diploma.

Jobs in the hospitality sector are not in demand right now due to COVID-19. None of us can predict where things will stand in the future. Some hospitality jobs are skilled and others aren't.

It's very difficult to find employers willing to go through the LMIA process. Assume you won't be able to do this in the hospitality sector since there are plenty of Canadians available for these jobs.

If you have questions about U.S. visas, please post these to a U.S. immigration forum.

Thank you so much. I will certainly follow your advice .

 

[D_D]

Hi everyone , I have some quick questions to get my doubts clear. I have been planning and researching on and about the study visa and the pros and cons of it. I belong to a middle class family. I have completed my Advance Diploma in Hospitality management from I.I.H.M. Kolkata and also obtained a degree of B.Sc. in Hospitality management from Bhartiyar University through their distance learning program as my college was affiliated to this university. I graduated in 2015 for 6 months i was engaged with a consultancy which promised to get me a job in Australia through the 457 visa which came out as a scam and we lost a good chunk of money there . after this horrible experience I got a job in Indigo airlines as a ground staff and i have recently left my job after completing 3 years with the organization. I had plans to join another major airline but due to the pandemic everything went down the drain.

Very shortly after i thought my ship is sinking and there is nothing to hold on to i found out about my friend who is enrolled in a course at Fanshaw college . He suggested me to take a chance at this and have a better future. I discussed the same with my family as i am the youngest one in the family , my elder brother is branch manager in Indian bank and so does my sister in law, my dad has retired last month as Deputy commandant in BSF after serving for 35 years . I am telling you all this to understand the situation i am in, financial resources are limited but we are ready to take the risk. My dad has made it very clear that this is going to be a one way ticket for me, its on me now i make it or break it. so i have been researching about this study visa for a while now so here are my finding and doubts , please debunk any myths or false information I might have accepted.

:> my goal is to enroll for at least 2 year study program in hospitality and tourism , which grants me 3 years of work permit so that i could make my place there and have a strong case for my PR application.
> the doubt i am carrying under this idea is #do all courses be it diploma or masters or graduation which lasts for 2 years results in 3 years of PGWP?
#is hospitality and tourism sector in demand & does it come under skilled worker class ?
# what is the probability of my PR being successful being in hospitality service sector?
# Is PGWP a open work permit? am i restricted to work only in the field of my graduation?
# looking for a permanent job, how difficult or competitive could it be?
> Can i reapply for my Passport renewal while in Canada with my PGWP? i did check that while on work permit its possible to renew your passport while in the host country also can we apply for Indian passport renewal at least 1 year prior to expiry?

> Is LMIA applicable in all the provinces of Canada and is hospitality sector exempted ?
#is LMIA actually tough to obtain even being a permanent employee at the organization?
#How long can i expect to stay and work in Canada with BOWP and if my Express Entry is rejected what options do i have?
#in which sectors is LMIA easily presented by the employer?

>being in Canada for 5 years - 2yo study and 3 years of PGWP i have planned to apply for PR after 3rd year when i have 1 year of permanent job experience. what is the probability that i might get my PR by the end of my PGWP?

>Do i really need an consultant in India or should i directly approach the institute and apply for visa ?

>do different province in Canada have varying immigration laws? like applying from one province i might have better chances at PR?

>Can i apply for PGWP while in Canada or do i have to apply at the border?

>i have found out that most of my friends who travelled to US on J1 visa hired a lawyer and somehow extended their stay . they have left India in 2015 on J1 visa and are still there to this day? how is this possible? are there loopholes in the system?

> will my case get treated differently if i get a diploma certificate or go for a masters graduate from Canadian university while applying for PR?


Thank you guys for being patient and reading through this huge post. Everything rests on my shoulder and i want to place every foot firmly. I will be watching this space for answers. . take care and stay safe.

It’s advisable to hire a consultant, since you are spending such a large chunk of money, spending a little more to make your case more solid is advisable. But stick to your own research as well… consultants will guide you better with the legal procedures.
Whatever it is don’t go for anything less than a post graduate degree & do speak with your consultant and analyse how you are going to approach the filling of gap. (For choosing a consultant- go and speak with 4-5 top agencies and get everybody’s opinion and then do more research and finalise one agency)
I also think once you reach there with a 2 year course & then get a pgwp… you have the motivation so I am sure you will make your way for PR (someway or the other) and even if you are unable to you would have already gained 5 years of foreign experience (2 years study & 3 years of work)… and in that span of 3 years, your income shall easily recover your initial investment, so worth investing this sum for your future.
Yes, the PGWP is an open work permit (you can work in any field or not even work, your wish)
Significantly, I will also advise you to be very careful with the visa process… since your SOP (filling the gap mentioning: what you have studied, why did you study that, why did you work as ground staff, how was that job related to your field, why this particular course now, why Canada, who is sponsoring, everything has to be covered), additionally Make sure you file under SDS with paying the fee as much as possible (if a two year course you can pay the fee for 3 semesters as well…along with GIC, which will further prevent the visa officer from raising concerns regarding financial stability)

Rest of your concerns have been solved by our mate I guess. Still, if we are missing on anything… fee free to drop another msg with that query, I will be happy to help you out to the best of my knowledge

 

[canuck78]

Don’t agree that you will easily recover your investment in your 2 years of studies in 3 years especially in hospitality.

 

[D_D]

Don’t agree that you will easily recover your investment in your 2 years of studies in 3 years especially in hospitality.

I think you are right… won’t recover fully
But still if he isn’t taking a loan or anything and he has no obligation to provide a return on investment, then he has the possibility to a decent living right ?

 

[sisodia_1995]

It’s advisable to hire a consultant, since you are spending such a large chunk of money, spending a little more to make your case more solid is advisable. But stick to your own research as well… consultants will guide you better with the legal procedures.
Whatever it is don’t go for anything less than a post graduate degree & do speak with your consultant and analyse how you are going to approach the filling of gap. (For choosing a consultant- go and speak with 4-5 top agencies and get everybody’s opinion and then do more research and finalise one agency)
I also think once you reach there with a 2 year course & then get a pgwp… you have the motivation so I am sure you will make your way for PR (someway or the other) and even if you are unable to you would have already gained 5 years of foreign experience (2 years study & 3 years of work)… and in that span of 3 years, your income shall easily recover your initial investment, so worth investing this sum for your future.
Yes, the PGWP is an open work permit (you can work in any field or not even work, your wish)
Significantly, I will also advise you to be very careful with the visa process… since your SOP (filling the gap mentioning: what you have studied, why did you study that, why did you work as ground staff, how was that job related to your field, why this particular course now, why Canada, who is sponsoring, everything has to be covered), additionally Make sure you file under SDS with paying the fee as much as possible (if a two year course you can pay the fee for 3 semesters as well…along with GIC, which will further prevent the visa officer from raising concerns regarding financial stability)

Rest of your concerns have been solved by our mate I guess. Still, if we are missing on anything… fee free to drop another msg with that query, I will be happy to help you out to the best of my knowledge

thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. i am investing my future into this, returning to country empty hand isn't an option. what do you suggest if i opt for a different course than what i had in my graduation? will the college consider that ?

considering hospitality has very tiny returns

 

[scylla]

thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. i am investing my future into this, returning to country empty hand isn't an option. what do you suggest if i opt for a different course than what i had in my graduation? will the college consider that ?

considering hospitality has very tiny returns

The college generally isn't the problem.

When you apply for a study permit, IRCC wants to see that your planned studies in Canada make sense in light of your previous work experience and education. If your planned studies in Canada have nothing to do with what you've done previously, the study permit has a much higher chance of being refused.

 

[D_D]

The college generally isn't the problem.

When you apply for a study permit, IRCC wants to see that your planned studies in Canada make sense in light of your previous work experience and education. If your planned studies in Canada have nothing to do with what you've done previously, the study permit has a much higher chance of being refused.

He’s absolutely right ! ! !

 

[D_D]

thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. i am investing my future into this, returning to country empty hand isn't an option. what do you suggest if i opt for a different course than what i had in my graduation? will the college consider that ?

considering hospitality has very tiny returns

You have another option … (more like a hack)
Instead of going for a 2 year course, go for two 1 year graduate certificates !!!
By doing so, you can opt to pursue a hospitality management course as your first course (which will suit your profile perfectly from the visa officers perspective)
Then choose a second course which you believe you can get admitted into, keeping in mind your qualifications and experiences…(maybe something that is in demand in Canada)
in that way you have two openings … then you can search for jobs in both fields
Also, search for programs with coop option, which will provide you with additional work experience

 

[D_D]

You have another option … (more like a hack)
Instead of going for a 2 year course, go for two 1 year graduate certificates !!!
By doing so, you can opt to pursue a hospitality management course as your first course (which will suit your profile perfectly from the visa officers perspective)
Then choose a second course which you believe you can get admitted into, keeping in mind your qualifications and experiences…(maybe something that is in demand in Canada)
in that way you have two openings … then you can search for jobs in both fields
Also, search for programs with coop option, which will provide you with additional work experience

Significantly, this will solve your problem as you shall be able to create a good profile for your study permit application & also pursue another course which is in demand. More importantly, gain a 3 year PGWP as well !

 

[D_D]

You have another option … (more like a hack)
Instead of going for a 2 year course, go for two 1 year graduate certificates !!!
By doing so, you can opt to pursue a hospitality management course as your first course (which will suit your profile perfectly from the visa officers perspective)
Then choose a second course which you believe you can get admitted into, keeping in mind your qualifications and experiences…(maybe something that is in demand in Canada)
in that way you have two openings … then you can search for jobs in both fields
Also, search for programs with coop option, which will provide you with additional work experience

I didn’t emphasise on the fact that it is comparatively easier to extend your study permit once you have a valid study permit & you are in Canada. There are few rules & regulations regarding the same but your consultant will solve all your queries… you will need to pay the college tuition & show some funds again for the extension… if you do so, nobody can deprive you of an extension !

 

[scylla]

Significantly, this will solve your problem as you shall be able to create a good profile for your study permit application & also pursue another course which is in demand. More importantly, gain a 3 year PGWP as well !

It solves part of the problem but not the whole problem. I agree this would be a good way to pursue a different course of study in Canada and to switch professions. However none of this guarantees a skilled job in Canada or PR.

 

[D_D]

It solves part of the problem but not the whole problem. I agree this would be a good way to pursue a different course of study in Canada and to switch professions. However none of this guarantees a skilled job in Canada or PR.

Nothing guarantees a skilled job in Canada or PR, that is true !
The rest is upto him, what he makes out of the opportunities. If he believes he can, I’m sure he will secure a job, because then he will work hard in his course. Rest as far as things go… nothing can guarantee anything, one simply has to find ways and make the best out of it !