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The risk of landing without US visa

VinnyToronto

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Hello everyone,


Last week my friend went for landing at Fort erie ( to make u-turn) he said , officers were not allowing him to do landing process, seems rules have been changed since last week.Now on for landing we have to cross the border .

Now my question is, we both don't have US visa. As we all know people cross rainbow bridge without US visa and get reject slip (Flag Pole).

What are the possibility of flag pole would effect in future if we apply for US visa?
 

iamroth

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You should cross the border. That is just the way it is. You have to get out of the country and "Land" as a Canadian Resident. (You can also do administrative landing in an office inside Canada, but that takes months).

Go to US side, then take a slip (your proof that you went to US border), come back to Canada walking. Land as a PR. Done.

The Future is bright. US people sometimes don't even check your papers. They just turn you around to Canada with the slip. So there is NO problem with "what will happen to my future USA Visa?".

Read here. Another applicant freaked out too when they were turned away :)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/landing-stopped-at-peace-bridge-t186728.0.html

He found out next day, everything is as it was before.
 

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I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.
 

iamroth

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data said:
I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.
How will it stay on his record?
 

thisisauser

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data said:
I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.
I do not think that's true. There's been no reports here of anyone having issues so far.
 

iam_toby

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data said:
I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.
In what way could cause that trouble with future visits to the US?? That sounds a little odd...
 

data

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iam_toby said:
In what way could cause that trouble with future visits to the US?? That sounds a little odd...
Just because there will be a record of the person being refused entry to the US. I have come across posts on an US immigration forum that flag-polers getting administrative refusal being sent to secondary screening when they go to the US after.
 

HY325

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data said:
I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.

i do not agree with you.
my friend didnt have a US visa so she just went to US border and told them she was there to do landing.
they didnt even look at her passport, gave her a slip and explained to her how to get back to canadian side.
 

data

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HY325 said:
i do not agree with you.
my friend didnt have a US visa so she just went to US border and told them she was there to do landing.
they didnt even look at her passport, gave her a slip and explained to her how to get back to canadian side.
Well, the next time she enters the US it may cause trouble. There are cases that people who got administrative refusal will be sent to secondary screening the next time they enter the US.

It may depend on which border agent you get. But for me I'm not willing to risk future complications. I already have my US visa ready :)
 

HY325

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data said:
Well, the next time she enters the US it may cause trouble. There are cases that people who got administrative refusal will be sent to secondary screening the next time they enter the US.
if they didnt even look at her passport, how would they even know who she is and whether she had an administrative refusal or not? it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me

yeah, okay. maybe itll be different from agent to agent.
i guess my friend was lucky?! i dont need a visa to go to US so it doesnt really matter to me
but im very curious now to see how the administrative refusal works
 

thisisauser

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data said:
Just because there will be a record of the person being refused entry to the US. I have come across posts on an US immigration forum that flag-polers getting administrative refusal being sent to secondary screening when they go to the US after.
Please share links to such reports.
 

data

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thisisauser said:
Please share links to such reports.
I didn't save it. But try googling flag polling.
 

VinnyToronto

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data said:
I didn't save it. But try googling flag polling.
I did some Google search but did't find much negative comments on flag polling.
 

gm_1215

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I don't need US visa to travel, (from 30 days visa free country)
When I landed last month, I got refusal letter. They said there is no problem.
 

JORGER

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data said:
I would strongly advise not to get entry refusal from the US.

Even though it is "just an administrative refusal". It will stay on your record and may cause trouble / delay in your next entry to the US.
"administrative refusal" is the key word here. It's not true you are going to have problem to entry again to the usa