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Thank you very much, really informed, well organized and deserved to be pinned. One question is there is any difference between regular security check and " security screening". What I mean is when I see " security screening " in the notes should I prepare myself for the long wait or is still possible to get something within couple of months.


All applicants go through the security screening and for most applicants it is hidden as s15 or 16, so they won't see it. Some applicants have to undergo stringent screening, which is due to their background or some other concerns.
 
This is ircc reply after my MP sent the csis report to them asking what is the status with ircc:


The service must sometimes rely on the cooperation of foreign agencies to provide criminal and security check.
Any information supplied to the service by a foreign agency is evaluated against what the service already possesses
 
This is ircc reply after my MP sent the csis report to them asking what is the status with ircc:


The service must sometimes rely on the cooperation of foreign agencies to provide criminal and security check.
Any information supplied to the service by a foreign agency is evaluated against what the service already possesses

If you read my post it specifically states that CSIS, only makes a recommendation. How the IRCC deals with it is solely the prerogative of IRCC, which can be based on it getting additional information from foreign agencies. Since CSIS will not release the contents of their file, and neither will IRCC release it, it is difficult to state as to what they are requested, or what they are waiting for.
 
If you read my post it specifically states that CSIS, only makes a recommendation. How the IRCC deals with it is solely the prerogative of IRCC, which can be based on it getting additional information from foreign agencies. Since CSIS will not release the contents of their file, and neither will IRCC release it, it is difficult to state as to what they are requested, or what they are waiting for.
Thank you. So it is not necessarily a trained officer and it can be an agency? Any approximate time frame for the ircc review?
 
Thank you. So it is not necessarily a trained officer and it can be an agency? Any approximate time frame for the ircc review?

It is always an IRCC officer who will make a determination. When I say getting information from foreign agencies, it could be any kind of request, ranging from a criminal issue, a white collar crime, money laundering etc. Once all the information is available with IRCC, and based on the opinion made by CSIS, a final determination will be made.

As regards time frame, its all over the place. One of the applicants I worked with, one of his previous employer (a company) was involved in a white collar crime investigation. The applicant had nothing to do with it, and had resigned before the investigation started. Still IRCC took almost 1.5 years to process his EE application. This is largely because the process of requesting information from foreign agencies is a slow process and most foreign agencies have their own bureaucratic hurdles before they release the information, which takes forever. Not necessarily that your case will take long, but there is no specific timeframe.
 
It is always an IRCC officer who will make a determination. When I say getting information from foreign agencies, it could be any kind of request, ranging from a criminal issue, a white collar crime, money laundering etc. Once all the information is available with IRCC, and based on the opinion made by CSIS, a final determination will be made.

As regards time frame, its all over the place. One of the applicants I worked with, one of his previous employer (a company) was involved in a white collar crime investigation. The applicant had nothing to do with it, and had resigned before the investigation started. Still IRCC took almost 1.5 years to process his EE application. This is largely because the process of requesting information from foreign agencies is a slow process and most foreign agencies have their own bureaucratic hurdles before they release the information, which takes forever. Not necessarily that your case will take long, but there is no specific timeframe.

My employers, although blue chip/Fortune 500, have been involved in some major scandals - fx rate& Libor rate rigging, various mis-selling scandals. I hope this is not holding up my application as I only work in the finance department.
 
It is always an IRCC officer who will make a determination. When I say getting information from foreign agencies, it could be any kind of request, ranging from a criminal issue, a white collar crime, money laundering etc. Once all the information is available with IRCC, and based on the opinion made by CSIS, a final determination will be made.
Hi,
So foreign agencies could include our native countries as well right? Or it's CSIS who contacts our countries?
All this extra check seems like it's done by random (statistics related) because clearly many cases don't have any criminal issues but they still are stuck in security check for no reason :(

My husband has been stuck in security check since December 2016 :(
 
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Thank you so much for your good information provided to us.According to IRCC, the security screening has been started since June 2016 and still not over; in case, the criminality has not been started on Feb 2017. how is it possible the criminality has not yet begun after security?
the other thing, how long does it take for criminality?
 
My employers, although blue chip/Fortune 500, have been involved in some major scandals - fx rate& Libor rate rigging, various mis-selling scandals. I hope this is not holding up my application as I only work in the finance department.

I just merely gave an example. Every case is different and will be processed differently.
 
Hi,
So foreign agencies could include our native countries as well right? Or it's CSIS who contacts our countries?
All this extra check seems like it's done by random (statistics related) because clearly many cases don't have any criminal issues but they still are stuck in security check for no reason :(

My husband has been stuck in security check since December 2016 :(

Foreign agencies means any NON-Canadian agency, it could be your country of residence or any country you travelled to. checks are not random, they are based on credible information. The checks done by CSIS are not only criminal, but involve security checks too, and there is a big distinction between the two. The security inadmissibility criteria is laid out on the CSIS Act and the IRPA.
 
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Thank you so much for your good information provided to us.According to IRCC, the security screening has been started since June 2016 and still not over; in case, the criminality has not been started on Feb 2017. how is it possible the criminality has not yet begun after security?
the other thing, how long does it take for criminality?

Have you ordered GCMS, or are you just saying so based on the status on MyCIC?
 
Foreign agencies means any NON-Canadian agency, it could be your country of residence or any country you travelled to. checks are not random, they are based on credible information. The checks done by CSIS are not only criminal, but involve security checks too, and there is a big distinction between the two. The security inadmissibility criteria is laid out on the CSIS Act and the IRPA.
Thank you for your explanation!

I ordered GCMS a few times already, latest one came on July 4th and also just ordered CSIS report which will probably reveal that CSIS was completed back in Spring.
 
Foreign agencies means any NON-Canadian agency, it could be your country of residence or any country you travelled to. checks are not random, they are based on credible information. The checks done by CSIS are not only criminal, but involve security checks too, and there is a big distinction between the two. The security inadmissibility criteria is laid out on the CSIS Act and the IRPA.
Does CSIS contact foreign agencies and rely on them to complete the report or the CSIS report is just based on online databases and Interpol and then IRCC will contact appropriate agencies based on the CSIS report?