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TFW Application Rejected - Don't Think he will return home - please help!

lucybear05

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Mar 17, 2012
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My nanny is devastated, and I am hoping we can get some help from the experts! Here is the background. Our nanny is from the Philippines. She is wonderful. Her husband has been back home in Manila looking after their two children (ages 9 and 11). Our nanny's husband, R, recently got a job offer from a cleaning company in our city (Edmonton, Alberta). I understand he was hired through an "open LMO", and that this employer had obtained 9 open LMO's, and then recruited 9 people in Manila. Our nanny and R were so excited; R's sister was going to take care of their children, and R could then come to Edmonton.

Well, now our nanny is heartbroken, because R's application for a work permit was just rejected, on the basis of something along the lines of "we aren't satisfied you would return to the Philippines when your work permit expires". It is my understanding that 5 out of the total 9 employees hired by this company have now been turned down on this basis. The first 4 were single with no children. R's application is the 5th to be processed. We were worried about the fact that R's wife (our nanny) is already here, but we thought because they have young children at home that would work in their favour.

Anyway, my questions are as follows, as I would really like to help them:

1. Can he appeal this decision, or provide additional information or anything, or is it basically "over" with respect to the process they were going through?
2. If it's over, can he re-apply/start all over with that same employer (assuming the employer would agree to try again with him)?
3. If so, would there even be any point in re-applying, given the rejection?
4. If he can or should re-apply, what can he do in his application to assure the government he would leave the country after his work permit expires (R and our nanny are extremely honest, accountible, religious people; I don't believe they would ever remain in Canada illegally).
5. We think we could perhaps get R a job offer with another employer (who could get an LMO for sure; it is a large engineering and construction company, and they are in the process of hiring a ton for TFW). Would there be any utility in having R re-apply through this new employer, or will he just be up against the same issues?
6. Any other ideas on how we might help R?
7. Final question; how long roughly is it taking for the government to process PR applications for Live-In Caregiver's these days (our nanny was crying saying it would take years and years for her to be with her husband again, and I wanted to reassure here it is not that long, but I wasn't sure).

Many thanks in advance! We hate to see our nanny uphappy...
 

job_seeker

VIP Member
Jul 27, 2009
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1. No.
2. Yes he can apply again, but if there are no significant changes in the husband's circumstances then it's not advisable to apply again as it will be turned down again. He has to show "ties" but considering he takes care of his children then a "good job with a reputable company is then out".
3. See 2
4. See 2.
5. You could try.
6. Wait for your nanny's PR (sorry out of ideas). It is overcoming the objections that would be necessary and without ties in the Philippines then chances are very slim if not nil.
7. PR apps as per the cic website is 32 months for caregivers.

lucybear05 said:
My nanny is devastated, and I am hoping we can get some help from the experts! Here is the background. Our nanny is from the Philippines. She is wonderful. Her husband has been back home in Manila looking after their two children (ages 9 and 11). Our nanny's husband, R, recently got a job offer from a cleaning company in our city (Edmonton, Alberta). I understand he was hired through an "open LMO", and that this employer had obtained 9 open LMO's, and then recruited 9 people in Manila. Our nanny and R were so excited; R's sister was going to take care of their children, and R could then come to Edmonton.

Well, now our nanny is heartbroken, because R's application for a work permit was just rejected, on the basis of something along the lines of "we aren't satisfied you would return to the Philippines when your work permit expires". It is my understanding that 5 out of the total 9 employees hired by this company have now been turned down on this basis. The first 4 were single with no children. R's application is the 5th to be processed. We were worried about the fact that R's wife (our nanny) is already here, but we thought because they have young children at home that would work in their favour.

Anyway, my questions are as follows, as I would really like to help them:

1. Can he appeal this decision, or provide additional information or anything, or is it basically "over" with respect to the process they were going through?
2. If it's over, can he re-apply/start all over with that same employer (assuming the employer would agree to try again with him)?
3. If so, would there even be any point in re-applying, given the rejection?
4. If he can or should re-apply, what can he do in his application to assure the government he would leave the country after his work permit expires (R and our nanny are extremely honest, accountible, religious people; I don't believe they would ever remain in Canada illegally).
5. We think we could perhaps get R a job offer with another employer (who could get an LMO for sure; it is a large engineering and construction company, and they are in the process of hiring a ton for TFW). Would there be any utility in having R re-apply through this new employer, or will he just be up against the same issues?
6. Any other ideas on how we might help R?
7. Final question; how long roughly is it taking for the government to process PR applications for Live-In Caregiver's these days (our nanny was crying saying it would take years and years for her to be with her husband again, and I wanted to reassure here it is not that long, but I wasn't sure).

Many thanks in advance! We hate to see our nanny uphappy...
 

lucybear05

Star Member
Mar 17, 2012
105
3
Thanks so much jobseeker!

So I think what you're saying is that any work permit application will need him to show "ties" to the Philippines. Isn't two school age children in the Philippines "ties"!? I am thinking you are suggesting that it isn't good enough "ties". I mean, their entire extended family is in Manila, including their children. I just don't know what could be a bigger "tie" than that.

But if it wasn't a good enough "tie", then I guess that's that.

32 months - how awful. So it really will be 4 or more years before she has PR and can hope to bring her family here (she has only been working for us under the LCP program for 2 months). What a terrible system to have such slow processing times that these women are away from their families, working hard, for so long. Ugh. Makes me so frustrated!
 

job_seeker

VIP Member
Jul 27, 2009
4,539
83
Not enough. He can take the 6 month care giving course and then apply as a caregiver. The 6-month course and the 18 month application process (should he find an employer) would cut down the waiting time for them to be together

lucybear05 said:
Thanks so much jobseeker!

So I think what you're saying is that any work permit application will need him to show "ties" to the Philippines. Isn't two school age children in the Philippines "ties"!? I am thinking you are suggesting that it isn't good enough "ties". I mean, their entire extended family is in Manila, including their children. I just don't know what could be a bigger "tie" than that.

But if it wasn't a good enough "tie", then I guess that's that.

32 months - how awful. So it really will be 4 or more years before she has PR and can hope to bring her family here (she has only been working for us under the LCP program for 2 months). What a terrible system to have such slow processing times that these women are away from their families, working hard, for so long. Ugh. Makes me so frustrated!