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Tested Positive for Myobacterium TB Complex - St. Luke's Medical Extension Center, Ermita

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I am 22yo from the Philippines, a study permit applicant waiting to study in Ontario, Canada by September 2023. But, I have just been tested positive for myobacterium TB complex during my sputum test in SLEC. I'm writing on here to ask for assistance with regard to my application, as I am unsure of what steps to take next. I am currently taking medications for the treatment (started two days ago).

Last March 27, 2023, I had a prior general medical examination in Healthway Medical, Greenbelt for personal purposes. I had just came back from Thailand and been smoking there for quite some time and wanted to check how it affected my whole body when I got back to the Philippines. I had a hematology test, urinalysis, fecalysis and a chest x-ray. My chest x-ray had findings that stated, "Streaky and nodular opacities are seen in the left mid lung; Pulmonary vascularity is within normal; Heart is normal in size; Diaphragm, sinuses, and visualized osseous structures are intact", along with an impression saying, "Consider left med lung fibrosis and granuloma. Recommend clinical correlation". My doctor at the time told me to avoid smoking, but everything else is fine and I shouldn't be worried about anything. I was a little concerned so I just rested for weeks and barely went outside until my appointment at SLEC.

My medical examination at SLEC was scheduled on April 20, 2023. They made me return on June 20-21, for a sputum test. A follow-up pulmonary evaluation was done on July 24th and that's when I was told I had something actively growing in my left lung, and apparently there was also water in it. Honestly, it just looked like my previous chest x-ray. So I was a bit confused. She also told me then that I tested positive for myobacterium tuberculosis complex, so I have to undergo a 6-month treatment. The whole news was so overwhelming and concerning because my semester is in two months, and I asked her how this is going to affect my studies and application. She told me bluntly that it's going to be postponed by the Canadian Embassy, pending a report about my health status. She told me that I have two options -- whether to do the treatment in SLEC everyday Mon-Fri or do it with my private doctor with continuous monitoring. I chose having to deal with it privately.

Honestly, I was so confused because I have never coughed, nor did I ever experience any other signs and symptoms typically seen in a TB patient. So, if I even had the slightest chance of having TB, it would be inactive or latent. I do chest x-rays every year, and last year it was fine, and didn't show signs of TB.

I saw a pulmonologist in Makati Medical Center last July 26, 2023 with my fiancé. My doctor was telling me about how good my immunity is because I only had scar tissues from my last chest x-ray. And that whatever was going on with my lungs at the time, it immediately stopped it. I wasn't able to show him the SLEC chest x-ray because they never gave me a copy for it. He told me that since he's going to follow the protocols and instructions given by the SLEC (Request for Medical Certificate) and immediately start treatment as needed and referred. As for my fiancé, he told him that he should get his x-rays done (from literally every side), and his results turned out fine, surprisingly. There were no signs of him having tuberculosis at all. This is the part where we both got more confused. He barely takes care of his lungs (smoker), and had been in close contact with me almost all the time. He had been wherever I have been for a year.

So, I thought maybe there's a chance SLEC mistakenly misdiagnose their patients with TB? And from what I have seen so far, there were numerous complaints talking about how SLEC is incompetent with tests regarding tuberculosis. They would be flagging x-rays that barely show active tuberculosis, and have mistakes with sputum results as well, delaying applications. And upon doing another test in their designated countries, they would end up knowing they never actually had any tuberculosis the whole time. And apparently, this has been a problem for years already, and no one knows why and how they come up with these results. I'm just concerned about the wasted money, time, effort and the bad side effects brought by antibiotics, considering it should be taken initially for two months. And it seems a little sketchy that it turns out it's actually a common case rather than rare.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get a second opinion from Makati Medical Center, Centuria Medical Center (Hi-Precision), or possibly another panel physician? Would they honor potential results that may contradict their assessment? If I do prove I've been free from TB, would I need a lawyer to proceed with this?
 
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Taran D

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I am 22yo from the Philippines, a study permit applicant waiting to study in Ontario, Canada by September 2023. But, I have just been tested positive for myobacterium TB complex during my sputum test in SLEC. I'm writing on here to ask for assistance with regard to my application, as I am unsure of what steps to take next. I am currently taking medications for the treatment (started two days ago).

Last March 27, 2023, I had a prior general medical examination in Healthway Medical, Greenbelt for personal purposes. I had just came back from Thailand and been smoking there for quite some time and wanted to check how it affected my whole body when I got back to the Philippines. I had a hematology test, urinalysis, fecalysis and a chest x-ray. My chest x-ray had findings that stated, "Streaky and nodular opacities are seen in the left mid lung; Pulmonary vascularity is within normal; Heart is normal in size; Diaphragm, sinuses, and visualized osseous structures are intact", along with an impression saying, "Consider left med lung fibrosis and granuloma. Recommend clinical correlation". My doctor at the time told me to avoid smoking, but everything else is fine and I shouldn't be worried about anything. I was a little concerned so I just rested for weeks and barely went outside until my appointment at SLEC.

My medical examination at SLEC was scheduled on April 20, 2023. They made me return on June 20-21, for a sputum test. A follow-up pulmonary evaluation was done on July 24th and that's when I was told I had something actively growing in my left lung, and apparently there was also water in it. Honestly, it just looked like my previous chest x-ray. So I was a bit confused. She also told me then that I tested positive for myobacterium tuberculosis complex, so I have to undergo a 6-month treatment. The whole news was so overwhelming and concerning because my semester is in two months, and I asked her how this is going to affect my studies and application. She told me bluntly that it's going to be postponed by the Canadian Embassy, pending a report about my health status. She told me that I have two options -- whether to do the treatment in SLEC everyday Mon-Fri or do it with my private doctor with continuous monitoring. I chose having to deal with it privately.

Honestly, I was so confused because I have never coughed, nor did I ever experience any other signs and symptoms typically seen in a TB patient. So, if I even had the slightest chance of having TB, it would be inactive or latent. I do chest x-rays every year, and last year it was fine, and didn't show signs of TB.

I saw a pulmonologist in Makati Medical Center last July 26, 2023 with my fiancé. My doctor was telling me about how good my immunity is because I only had scar tissues from my last chest x-ray. And that whatever was going on with my lungs at the time, it immediately stopped it. I wasn't able to show him the SLEC chest x-ray because they never gave me a copy for it. He told me that since he's going to follow the protocols and instructions given by the SLEC (Request for Medical Certificate) and immediately start treatment as needed and referred. As for my fiancé, he told him that he should get his x-rays done (from literally every side), and his results turned out fine, surprisingly. There were no signs of him having tuberculosis at all. This is the part where we both got more confused. He barely takes care of his lungs (smoker), and had been in close contact with me almost all the time. He had been wherever I have been for a year.

So, I thought maybe there's a chance SLEC mistakenly misdiagnose their patients with TB? And from what I have seen so far, there were numerous complaints talking about how SLEC is incompetent with tests regarding tuberculosis. They would be flagging x-rays that barely show active tuberculosis, and have mistakes with sputum results as well, delaying applications. And upon doing another test in their designated countries, they would end up knowing they never actually had any tuberculosis the whole time. And apparently, this has been a problem for years already, and no one knows why and how they come up with these results. I'm just concerned about the wasted money, time, effort and the bad side effects brought by antibiotics, considering it should be taken initially for two months. And it seems a little sketchy that it turns out it's actually a common case rather than rare.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get a second opinion from Makati Medical Center, Centuria Medical Center (Hi-Precision), or possibly another panel physician? Would they honor potential results that may contradict their assessment? If I do prove I've been free from TB, would I need a lawyer to proceed with this?
For the latent and inactive TB one has to go for treatment. People have to go through it for PR as well and sometimes after getting PR. It is normal stuff. So you have to undergo treatment. Unfortunately until and unless your medical panel send a report to IRCC that you have completed the treatment your medical won't be passed and you won't get a visa. Medical passed is must.
Unfortunately IRCC doesn't care about any doc rather than their appointed medical panel. Though if you want to try you can. To be frankly saying even though they found a light streak in lungs one has to go for medical furtherance and surveillance. Hope this helps.
 

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I am 22yo from the Philippines, a study permit applicant waiting to study in Ontario, Canada by September 2023. But, I have just been tested positive for myobacterium TB complex during my sputum test in SLEC. I'm writing on here to ask for assistance with regard to my application, as I am unsure of what steps to take next. I am currently taking medications for the treatment (started two days ago).

Last March 27, 2023, I had a prior general medical examination in Healthway Medical, Greenbelt for personal purposes. I had just came back from Thailand and been smoking there for quite some time and wanted to check how it affected my whole body when I got back to the Philippines. I had a hematology test, urinalysis, fecalysis and a chest x-ray. My chest x-ray had findings that stated, "Streaky and nodular opacities are seen in the left mid lung; Pulmonary vascularity is within normal; Heart is normal in size; Diaphragm, sinuses, and visualized osseous structures are intact", along with an impression saying, "Consider left med lung fibrosis and granuloma. Recommend clinical correlation". My doctor at the time told me to avoid smoking, but everything else is fine and I shouldn't be worried about anything. I was a little concerned so I just rested for weeks and barely went outside until my appointment at SLEC.

My medical examination at SLEC was scheduled on April 20, 2023. They made me return on June 20-21, for a sputum test. A follow-up pulmonary evaluation was done on July 24th and that's when I was told I had something actively growing in my left lung, and apparently there was also water in it. Honestly, it just looked like my previous chest x-ray. So I was a bit confused. She also told me then that I tested positive for myobacterium tuberculosis complex, so I have to undergo a 6-month treatment. The whole news was so overwhelming and concerning because my semester is in two months, and I asked her how this is going to affect my studies and application. She told me bluntly that it's going to be postponed by the Canadian Embassy, pending a report about my health status. She told me that I have two options -- whether to do the treatment in SLEC everyday Mon-Fri or do it with my private doctor with continuous monitoring. I chose having to deal with it privately.

Honestly, I was so confused because I have never coughed, nor did I ever experience any other signs and symptoms typically seen in a TB patient. So, if I even had the slightest chance of having TB, it would be inactive or latent. I do chest x-rays every year, and last year it was fine, and didn't show signs of TB.

I saw a pulmonologist in Makati Medical Center last July 26, 2023 with my fiancé. My doctor was telling me about how good my immunity is because I only had scar tissues from my last chest x-ray. And that whatever was going on with my lungs at the time, it immediately stopped it. I wasn't able to show him the SLEC chest x-ray because they never gave me a copy for it. He told me that since he's going to follow the protocols and instructions given by the SLEC (Request for Medical Certificate) and immediately start treatment as needed and referred. As for my fiancé, he told him that he should get his x-rays done (from literally every side), and his results turned out fine, surprisingly. There were no signs of him having tuberculosis at all. This is the part where we both got more confused. He barely takes care of his lungs (smoker), and had been in close contact with me almost all the time. He had been wherever I have been for a year.

So, I thought maybe there's a chance SLEC mistakenly misdiagnose their patients with TB? And from what I have seen so far, there were numerous complaints talking about how SLEC is incompetent with tests regarding tuberculosis. They would be flagging x-rays that barely show active tuberculosis, and have mistakes with sputum results as well, delaying applications. And upon doing another test in their designated countries, they would end up knowing they never actually had any tuberculosis the whole time. And apparently, this has been a problem for years already, and no one knows why and how they come up with these results. I'm just concerned about the wasted money, time, effort and the bad side effects brought by antibiotics, considering it should be taken initially for two months. And it seems a little sketchy that it turns out it's actually a common case rather than rare.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get a second opinion from Makati Medical Center, Centuria Medical Center (Hi-Precision), or possibly another panel physician? Would they honor potential results that may contradict their assessment? If I do prove I've been free from TB, would I need a lawyer to proceed with this?
I agree with the feedback you've already been given above.

Either go through the treatment if you still want to come to Canada. Or if you really don't want to, then abandon your plans to study in Canada.

A lawyer isn't going to be able to make this go away and will be a waste of money.
 

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I'm just concerned about the wasted money, time, effort and the bad side effects brought by antibiotics, considering it should be taken initially for two months. And it seems a little sketchy that it turns out it's actually a common case rather than rare.
Canada takes TB very, very seriously. That’s all you need to know.

Relative also had to go through a 3-month sputum test just because SLEC found traces in the lung X-rays before they were able to get their PR visa. Also caused a flag at immigration every time they tried to enter Canada because they didn’t do their medical surveillance (yes, more tests upon landing in Canada) immediately. Your case actually requires treatment.
 
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Canada takes TB very, very seriously. That’s all you need to know.

Relative also had to go through a 3-month sputum test just because SLEC found traces in the lung X-rays before they were able to get their PR visa. Also caused a flag at immigration every time they tried to enter Canada because they didn’t do their medical surveillance (yes, more tests upon landing in Canada) immediately. Your case actually requires treatment.
I don't think you understand how many people get misdiagnosed by SLEC, and they end up not having tuberculosis in the first place. I have done several tests already that showed I was never actually exposed to tuberculosis. Blood (TB Quantiferon), and more sputum tests (AFB smear and MTB PCR) were done on me. None of these show MTB detection.

The reason why I feel shitty about having to undergo the treatment and deal with the 6 month delay is because I'm afraid of antibiotic resistance, merely because I barely have the germ in my system at all. I'm potentially going to destroy my liver. SLEC has been known to be doing this thing for YEARS. I know the weight of having tuberculosis and how this should be monitored by the Canadian Embassy, but how about the misdiagnosed applicants who have to undergo unnecessary treatment?

If you would observe how they collect the applicants' sputum it's super unhygienic. Sure, it's supervised by the medical staffs BUT who does sputum collection at a rooftop with an open space? Where you'll be expectorating at an open cubicle, with (left and right) dividers that are 4ft tall and 1 meter wide. You can see, and hear other people coughing literally beside you while you're doing your own collection. There are people doing the same thing across from you and behind you. No one does this kind of sputum collection in this ghetto way.
 
Jul 28, 2023
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Philippines
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20-04-2023
I am 22yo from the Philippines, a study permit applicant waiting to study in Ontario, Canada by September 2023. But, I have just been tested positive for myobacterium TB complex during my sputum test in SLEC. I'm writing on here to ask for assistance with regard to my application, as I am unsure of what steps to take next. I am currently taking medications for the treatment (started two days ago).

Last March 27, 2023, I had a prior general medical examination in Healthway Medical, Greenbelt for personal purposes. I had just came back from Thailand and been smoking there for quite some time and wanted to check how it affected my whole body when I got back to the Philippines. I had a hematology test, urinalysis, fecalysis and a chest x-ray. My chest x-ray had findings that stated, "Streaky and nodular opacities are seen in the left mid lung; Pulmonary vascularity is within normal; Heart is normal in size; Diaphragm, sinuses, and visualized osseous structures are intact", along with an impression saying, "Consider left med lung fibrosis and granuloma. Recommend clinical correlation". My doctor at the time told me to avoid smoking, but everything else is fine and I shouldn't be worried about anything. I was a little concerned so I just rested for weeks and barely went outside until my appointment at SLEC.

My medical examination at SLEC was scheduled on April 20, 2023. They made me return on June 20-21, for a sputum test. A follow-up pulmonary evaluation was done on July 24th and that's when I was told I had something actively growing in my left lung, and apparently there was also water in it. Honestly, it just looked like my previous chest x-ray. So I was a bit confused. She also told me then that I tested positive for myobacterium tuberculosis complex, so I have to undergo a 6-month treatment. The whole news was so overwhelming and concerning because my semester is in two months, and I asked her how this is going to affect my studies and application. She told me bluntly that it's going to be postponed by the Canadian Embassy, pending a report about my health status. She told me that I have two options -- whether to do the treatment in SLEC everyday Mon-Fri or do it with my private doctor with continuous monitoring. I chose having to deal with it privately.

Honestly, I was so confused because I have never coughed, nor did I ever experience any other signs and symptoms typically seen in a TB patient. So, if I even had the slightest chance of having TB, it would be inactive or latent. I do chest x-rays every year, and last year it was fine, and didn't show signs of TB.

I saw a pulmonologist in Makati Medical Center last July 26, 2023 with my fiancé. My doctor was telling me about how good my immunity is because I only had scar tissues from my last chest x-ray. And that whatever was going on with my lungs at the time, it immediately stopped it. I wasn't able to show him the SLEC chest x-ray because they never gave me a copy for it. He told me that since he's going to follow the protocols and instructions given by the SLEC (Request for Medical Certificate) and immediately start treatment as needed and referred. As for my fiancé, he told him that he should get his x-rays done (from literally every side), and his results turned out fine, surprisingly. There were no signs of him having tuberculosis at all. This is the part where we both got more confused. He barely takes care of his lungs (smoker), and had been in close contact with me almost all the time. He had been wherever I have been for a year.

So, I thought maybe there's a chance SLEC mistakenly misdiagnose their patients with TB? And from what I have seen so far, there were numerous complaints talking about how SLEC is incompetent with tests regarding tuberculosis. They would be flagging x-rays that barely show active tuberculosis, and have mistakes with sputum results as well, delaying applications. And upon doing another test in their designated countries, they would end up knowing they never actually had any tuberculosis the whole time. And apparently, this has been a problem for years already, and no one knows why and how they come up with these results. I'm just concerned about the wasted money, time, effort and the bad side effects brought by antibiotics, considering it should be taken initially for two months. And it seems a little sketchy that it turns out it's actually a common case rather than rare.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get a second opinion from Makati Medical Center, Centuria Medical Center (Hi-Precision), or possibly another panel physician? Would they honor potential results that may contradict their assessment? If I do prove I've been free from TB, would I need a lawyer to proceed with this?
AS AN UPDATE: I have tested NEGATIVE for TB Quantiferon Test, AFB Smear Test, MTB PCR Test and even another evaluation from another radiologist and pulmonologist. None of the tests show I have been exposed nor did I ever have MTB in my system.
 

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AS AN UPDATE: I have tested NEGATIVE for TB Quantiferon Test, AFB Smear Test, MTB PCR Test and even another evaluation from another radiologist and pulmonologist. None of the tests show I have been exposed nor did I ever have MTB in my system.
Is it at all possible for you to undergo a new medical through a different panel physician?
 

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Hello all. Please do the panel physicians let us know when sputum smear and culture test results are available or they just wait to do X-ray after 3 months before giving us results?
 

Taran D

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Hello all. Please do the panel physicians let us know when sputum smear and culture test results are available or they just wait to do X-ray after 3 months before giving us results?
They will send all the reports directly to IRCC. 3 months xray is mandatory even though sputum comes to be negative.
 

Booster

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So I won’t get to know if I have tb or not unless ircc contacts me? Because after 8 weeks of waiting I have the burning desire to know what the results are so I know if I’m getting my visa soon or not.
 

Taran D

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So I won’t get to know if I have tb or not unless ircc contacts me? Because after 8 weeks of waiting I have the burning desire to know what the results are so I know if I’m getting my visa soon or not.
You can request them to share the details with you. Both these sputum and 3 months' xray are compared to the previous ones and then examined. Unfortunately you have to wait for correspondence from IRCC.