Temp work permit and residency question

[Archer74]

Hi all

Given that I cannot apply for the working Holiday Visa, i would like you advice on a temporary work permit from the UK to Toronto

What I wanted to do was to apply for the temporary work permit (cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/work) and at the same time apply for residency (i understand this can take up to 6 years)

Both applications will be made from the UK. I understand that the waiting time for a temp work permit maybe up to two years and you have to join a queue, but can you also apply for residency at the same time?

If i get the work permit and move over there, would my residency permit application still be valid, or would i need to apply for one from within Canada once i have worked there for 3 years or can you do both and see whichever one comes first? I also read that your residency application is stronger if you have already worked for a full year or more in your province, but would that only apply if you worked there, and then returned home and applied for residency from here?

Sorry about the questions, the temp work permit and residency application are a little confusing but I think this is the only way I am able to do it, I do not mind waiting for permits and applications to be approved as I plan to do the move properly and just once

 

[scylla]

There is no rule that states that you can apply for PR once you have worked in Canada for three years. You can, however, apply for PR through the Canadian Experience Class program once you have worked in Canada for a year. To qualify, the work must be full time, paid and skilled. You must also meet certain additional requirements.

You can apply for a temporary work permit and PR (residency) at the same time. The two applications will not impact each other. If you are approved for a temporary work permit, your residency/PR application will not be impacted and will continue to be processed.

To qualify to apply for a temproary work permit, you will first have to find an employer in Canada who is willing to offer you a job and then that employer will have to obtain an approved Labour Market Opinion. Once you have the job offer and an approved LMO, you will then qualify for a temporary work permit.

 

[Archer74]

Thanks for your reply

But as I understood it you could apply on the waiting list for a temporary work permit, and if authorized, come to Canada under a 6 months travel visa, look for a job, be able to say to that job you already have a temporary work permit so they can start the LMO , leave the country to return home, return to Canada and pick up your work permit at the POE, and then be ready by your start date. is this not the case? Am i getting confused with the Open work permit?

We have friends who we will stay with for the first 6-8 months while we would look for our own place so a resident address should not be an issue for us

Thank you

 

[scylla]

But as I understood it you could apply on the waiting list for a temporary work permit, and if authorized, come to Canada under a 6 months travel visa, look for a job, be able to say to that job you already have a temporary work permit so they can start the LMO , leave the country to return home, return to Canada and pick up your work permit at the POE, and then be ready by your start date. is this not the case? Am i getting confused with the Open work permit?

There is no such temporary work permit. To qualify to apply for a temporary work permit, you must first obtain the job offer and approved LMO.

There are some work permits where an LMO and/or job offer isn't required such as an open work permit or working holiday visa. However there is no such thing as a six month temproary work permit that allows you to come to Canada and look for a job.

 

[Archer74]

Thanks for your reply

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. The 6 months I was referring to was for the visitors visa

I have come to this forum as the more I read up the more confused I get and I would just like someone to be able to tell me my options here.

I am 37, degree educated in IT, 7 years commercial experience, in addition to other IT accreditation
I simply would like to move to Canada, time is not much of an issue I can wait.
I have no family members there. My partner (no married) is in the same situation but works in accounts. Same kind of CV as mine. We are both UK born.
The companies we work for do not have offices in Canada


To ask the advice simply, how can we move to Canada?

(Please don't just say to come for a working holiday and look for a job, its too much of a risk as I am well aware the chances for a foreign worker are slim at best considering permits and LMO's)

What are my options? Can I not apply and join a queue for a permit type?
How on earth do all the other people get to Canada, with what I have been reading on the forums a lot of people are having their permits and Visa's approved but how? There is no way each of them has visited Canada and looked for work, or that they work for a company that can do an internal transfer. I would have thought we were in a pretty good situation all round to be good candidates but each time I look into more this a door just closes

Getting real frustrated. Can anyone help me with this?

 

[scylla]

There is no queue for a work permit.

If you are intent on immigration, you'll need to spend more time reading through the immigration program information on the CIC web site and familiarize yourself with the options. This will answer your question regarding how people come here. There are a few streams that don't require Canadian work expience or a job offer in Canada. For example, the Federal Skilled Worker program started accepting applications at the start of May this year (no job in Canada required to qualify). To qualify to apply, your occupation must be on the Eligible Occupations list and you must meet certain other critieria to have enough points to qualify.

The good news is that there are a couple of IT occupations on the list this year. The bad news is that CIC is only accepting 300 applications per occupation. The IT occupations are extremely popular and the application cap was certainly reached back in May. In other words, if your occupation is IT, you've missed the boat for this year for the FSW program.

More information here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/index.asp

Again, the best thing to do is REALLY familiarize yourself with the requirements of all of the immigration programs available. There's really no alternative to doing the research yourself and making the time to really understand the programs if immigrating to Canada is important to you (actually there is one alternative - you can hire an immigration lawyer or consultant). The full list of programs can be found here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/apply.asp

 

[Archer74]

Thanks scylla

I have been reading more today and jumped onto the Skilled Worker section of this forum and have just been reading the links posted by bryan98

Doesn't look good at all

Even if I go through all of the application process, chances are my degree and certifications wont count for much and I will be on less wages than my Canadian born counterparts, that's if I even get my foot in the door without coming up against the "do you have Canadian experience"

Canada was a wonderful idea for us but I was getting a bad feeling the more and more I looked into it, now I know why

To be honest, it seems the only viable, reasonably secure way for us to be able to work in Canada and possibly get residence there is to be lucky and find a job with a company that has an office in Canada, and take an internal vacancy as a means as a transfer providing the vacancy is within your field.

The girlfriend is trying various agencies (visamigrate) but I am hugely doubtful of these sales orientated companies offering a "work and live" visa apparently valid for 4 year. Never heard of such a thing

Deflated......

But really appreciate that you tried to help

Thank you