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Technical Question - Schedule A – Background/Declaration [IMM 5669]

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Hi again everyone!

Just a quick question regarding the Schedule A – Background/Declaration form. Under 'Personal History', the form states:

Provide the details of your personal history since the age of 18, or the last 10 years, whichever comes first.

My wife will have just turned 18 when we submit our application. Does this mean we just provide the details of her personal history from her 18th birthday to the day we submit? I'm assuming they don't want her history since the age of 8 :p

Thanks!

Stephanie & Courtney
 

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Yup just since 18. so it will be a short history.
easier to fill out for you !! :D
 

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3000miles said:
Hi again everyone!

Just a quick question regarding the Schedule A – Background/Declaration form. Under 'Personal History', the form states:

Provide the details of your personal history since the age of 18, or the last 10 years, whichever comes first.

My wife will have just turned 18 when we submit our application. Does this mean we just provide the details of her personal history from her 18th birthday to the day we submit? I'm assuming they don't want her history since the age of 8 :p

Thanks!

Stephanie & Courtney
yes provide details of her personal history from her 18th birthday
 

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Awesome! So as well, she won't need a police certificate since she will have only been 18 for a few weeks when we submit?
 

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3000miles said:
Awesome! So as well, she won't need a police certificate since she will have only been 18 for a few weeks when we submit?
"Who needs a police certificate?

In general, you and everyone in your family who is 18 years of age or over need to obtain a police certificate. You must obtain a police certificate from each country or territory where you have lived for six consecutive months or longer since reaching the age of 18."

Since she will be 18 years of age when the application is submitted, she still needs a PC. It doesn't matter that most of the time covered by your application she was under 18, at the submission of the application she will be 18, so get it done.
 

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Even though she will only have been 18 for a few weeks when we submit?

"Who needs a police certificate?

In general, you and everyone in your family who is 18 years of age or over need to obtain a police certificate. You must obtain a police certificate from each country or territory where you have lived for <b>six consecutive months or longer since reaching the age of 18." </b>

Also, what about fingerprints?
 

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Yes, even though. The reason being, by the time the application is finalized, she will have lived somewhere for 6 months as an 18 year old. You will likely be asked to submit the certificate at that time, which will tack an extra 8-12 weeks on your processing time just waiting for it to be done and returned to you.

Fingerprints can be done at any police station, usually. The FBI link provides a ten-card to be used, in case they don't have one of their own.
 

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That's a good plan. So in our case, my wife will be in Canada from 4 days after her 18th birthday, and while the visa is being processed (our Canadian address is on all of the forms). I understand that we do not need Police certificates for Canada. Should we have the US certificates done anyways? We'll be back in the US for a week for her birthday and our wedding so if need be we could do it then.
 

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Correct, you do not need to submit one for Canada. They will request and get it done themselves. For the US one, you can have it done from anywhere, as long as the prints are properly taken by police authorities, you can send it to the FBI to get her check done. See here for the instructions on doing the FBI request: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp
 

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If I were in your shoes, I'd want the application to go through as smoothly as possible. While the FBI certificate may not be technically required, I think that it's going to be hard to communicate it to folks .... and even more so for them to waive a requirement in the system.

So, while technically you may not need it, I would go with the spirit of the rule and submit it. That way, you'll avoid a series of questions.

Similarly, for the background: it's not explicitly clear what 'whichever comes first' means. If you look at it as a timeline, the earlier of the two is 10 years ago. Given that you can take a couple moments and write in 2002 - 20xx student and perhaps a couple additional lines and be done with it, I would personally do that and avoid getting into a series of explanations for why it's blank. Ultimately, they want to know what she's been up to to understand what type of person she is ... giving them a blank sheet of paper will likely make folks uneasy and therefore will take time to sort out exactly how to proceed.

So, I'd go with the spirit of the rules - even if it may arguably be over-sharing. Show them you have nothing to hide and provide everything upfront.

But, that's just my two cents, FWIW.
 

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Awesome advice! Thanks again everyone.

Stephanie & Courtney
 

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How do you answer Question#4, (regarding personal details of your father). there's a blank for the "date of death, if deceased". my dad is still alive so i don't have to answer that. i'm filling out the form on the computer. it will not let me put n/a. do i just leave that blank? but we're not supposed to leave anything blank right? and have to write "n/a" if the question is not applicable to you. how to handle that? thanks.
 

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Rosey_L said:
How do you answer Question#4, (regarding personal details of your father). there's a blank for the "date of death, if deceased". my dad is still alive so i don't have to answer that. i'm filling out the form on the computer. it will not let me put n/a. do i just leave that blank? but we're not supposed to leave anything blank right? and have to write "n/a" if the question is not applicable to you. how to handle that? thanks.
After you print it, write in, with black ink, N/A :)
 

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^nice idea :D how about on filling out the dates for #8 for personal history. i have to use from "2009/07 to present". do i just print it and write in again, or is there a proper way to do it? ;D