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T4 required after RPRF fee paid

raj dhaliwal

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Hello friends,iam feb2013 applicant my NOC 6211 i allready done my medical in oct and last week i have request for rprf fee i paid that same day
i have another email from vo to submit my T4 and NOA for the period of 2010 and 2011 its weirod i have all that documents but the problem for those year i have three t4 because my employer has multie no of stores in city and i work various location on those year.and he paid me sepratly on all stores.so i have to explain this to visa officer or no,iam little worried my work permit is bonded on that time.
 

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Can you give more clear explanation of what happened?

What is written in your work permit? From which period to which did you work at the each store? What did you actually write in your application?
If these stores officially belong to the same company, why it should be a problem?
 

raj dhaliwal

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all the stores own by same company iam retail supervisor there on that perid i have lmo based work permit iam woeeied only no of T4S
 

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raj dhaliwal said:
all the stores own by same company iam retail supervisor there on that perid i have lmo based work permit iam woeeied only no of T4S
This does not make sense to me! if all the stores are owned by same company, you should only have one T4 unless these stores run the payroll on their own.

And I don't see issues re your work permit, you are restrited to work for the specified company and in the specified location, as you said, it is same company within the same city, it should not be an issue if my understanding of your situation is correct.
 

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GHD1213 said:
This does not make sense to me! if all the stores are owned by same company, you should only have one T4 unless these stores run the payroll on their own.

And I don't see issues re your work permit, you are restrited to work for the specified company and in the specified location, as you said, it is same company within the same city, it should not be an issue if my understanding of your situation is correct.
Not really, this person works for a gas station
One owner but 13 gas stations. Each location sends
Their pay roll to ceridan payroll company .
So if you work 75 hrs in two weeks but in 2
Different locations you'll get 2 pay chqs from
2 different locations .at the end of the yr
You'll get one t4 for one location
 

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richi jolly said:
Not really, this person works for a gas station
One owner but 13 gas stations. Each location sends
Their pay roll to ceridan payroll company .
So if you work 75 hrs in two weeks but in 2
Different locations you'll get 2 pay chqs from
2 different locations .at the end of the yr
You'll get one t4 for one location
Ok, that is consistent to my understanding that the different shops run their own payrolls, so he got different T4, right?

But, I don't think there is an issue on his work permit though as long as these shops are in the same city. Correct me if I am wrong.
 

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raj dhaliwal said:
yes its in same city
So you just need to provide as CIC requested with clear explanation.

But I am not sure what the CIC's concern is as checklist clearly states that only most recent T4 and NOA are required. Is the salary/remuneration package mentioned in your employment letter materially different from T4/NOA?
 

richi jolly

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Ya its in the same city..but the question is
Why would they ask for t4s after landing fees.
Is there any red flag?
 

GHD1213

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richi jolly said:
Ya its in the same city..but the question is
Why would they ask for t4s after landing fees.
Is there any red flag?
Second that, seems strange to request these info at the final stage.
 

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This is weird ?!

Just remember one simple thing

You should be working at the location stated on your work permit.

If you have worked at multiple locations and they have the same payroll number, this is not ok!

Even though on the surface it looks like one company (one payroll number)

You have still worked at multiple locations!

Quiet simply ...

This is not allowed

All experience complied for your application should be from one location only, if your counting hours from elsewhere you could find your self in trouble !
 

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I don't agree. The location in wp is specified in what city he is only allowed to work, he has already stated that they are in the same city. The nature of this type of business is run on franchise and it is usual that one owerner owns different shops, I can't see why it is not ok to work on one shop and work on the other across the road which is run by same person/co in the same city?

Is it not that simple? He would be in trouble if he work in different cities even though they are owned by same co.
 

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GHD1213 said:
I don't agree. The location in wp is specified in what city he is only allowed to work, he has already stated that they are in the same city. The nature of this type of business is run on franchise and it is usual that one owerner owns different shops, I can't see why it is not ok to work on one shop and work on the other across the road which is run by same person/co in the same city?

Is it not that simple? He would be in trouble if he work in different cities even though they are owned by same co.
Yep 100%

I know this because my employer wanted to sub me out to another store 15 km's away.

My manager called HRSDC and I also sat in on this while on load speaker.

I said to my manager that it specifically states it on the work permit

'Only to work at specified company XXXXXX'

and more so, the line below

the address xxxxxx

My manager disagreed and made the phone call, he got into an argument with the rep and they responded annoyed saying

"doesn't it say it in English on the work permit?"

to be honest my manager did look a little stupid, he should of believed me.

HRSDC and CIC literally mean what they say, and why wouldn't they

to be honest it is a no brainer
 

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Let Raj clear if there is a specific address on his wp? There is no such info in my wp anyway. That is probably only applied to retail industry?
 

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GHD1213 said:
Let Raj clear if there is a specific address on his wp? There is no such info in my wp anyway. That is probably only applied to retail industry?
As far as im aware 'all' closed work permits via LMO have specific address to work at

unless

your on an open work permit then obviously not the case

I really don't think there is any other types of work permits out there, if someone else could chip in on this, maybe toby!