Surrogacy

[lalababy]

has anyone here pparticipated from Nigeria done surrogacy from Nigeria, donor eggs and applied for the child to come into Canada? How long is the process.. do I need a lawyer to file documents

 

[canuck78]

has anyone here pparticipated from Nigeria done surrogacy from Nigeria, donor eggs and applied for the child to come into Canada? How long is the process.. do I need a lawyer to file documents

This requires lawyers who specialize in international surrogacy and perhaps adoption since donor eggs are being used especially if you don’t have a partner so the child would not be biologically related to any family member. Would also make sure you have plenty of time in Nigeria after the birth of the child and purchase private emergency medical insurance when your child comes back to Canada because in most provinces your child will need citizenship before they qualify for provincial healthcare and that can take up to a year.

 

[Hopefulval]

Nope I do not fully agree with you. The law says if you are the parent at birth (only one parent) and you a Canadian citizen, your child is automatically a citizen. You have to file and it takes 8 months.

 

[lalababy]

The question is how long it will take to bring the child to Canada

 

[Hopefulval]

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes/rules-2020.html

 

[Hopefulval]

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/identity/who-parent-purposes-where-assisted-human-reproduction-including-surrogacy-arrangements-involved.html

 

[Hopefulval]

The question is how long it will take to bring the child to Canada

I believe I answered your question already.

 

[Pragmatic]

I what to ask, what if someone who isn't a Citizen before the child was born abroad. But parent became citizen just 5 days after the child was born. Can you directly pass down citizenship by descent to that Child. Do you guys think there are consideration in awarding the child Citizenship since the parent became a citizen just 5 days after child was born and technically its in the same time frame of Child birth & becoming citizen.

Secondly, is it in every case like this that DNA testing is requested to prove Child-Parent Relationship.

Please anyone that has experienced this or have heard of this kind of scenario from someone should please share.

Thanks.

 

[armoured]

I what to ask, what if someone who isn't a Citizen before the child was born abroad. But parent became citizen just 5 days after the child was born. Can you directly pass down citizenship by descent to that Child. Do you guys think there are consideration in awarding the child Citizenship since the parent became a citizen just 5 days after child was born and technically its in the same time frame of Child birth & becoming citizen.

Does this question actually have something to do with surrogacy?

And the answer to the question is no. The child was not born 'in the same time frame.' The child was born after the parent became a citizen. The relevant time frame is 'after.'

The parent can sponsor the child to become a PR and then, when in Canada, the child can apply directly to become a citizen with no waiting period.

DNA tests - not in all cases. If it's a surrogacy case, my guess is higher probability of dna test requirement.

 

[Pragmatic]

Does this question actually have something to do with surrogacy?

And the answer to the question is no. The child was not born 'in the same time frame.' The child was born after the parent became a citizen. The relevant time frame is 'after.'

The parent can sponsor the child to become a PR and then, when in Canada, the child can apply directly to become a citizen with no waiting period.

DNA tests - not in all cases. If it's a surrogacy case, my guess is higher probability of dna test requirement.

Thanks for your answers Armoured, your explanation is really very refreshing and helpful and Yes.. It involves surrogacy, like you said this may be the likely possible reason for the DNA test request.

Am intrigued with your answer on the 3rd Paragraph., And i quote "The parent can sponsor the child to become a PR and then, when in Canada, the child can apply directly to ●BECOME A CITIZEN WITH NO WAITING PERIOD.●

I never knew a child can apply for Citizenship right away when they arrive Canada as PR without the Physical Presence Requirement of 3 out 5 years. Someone did say so to me a couple weeks back but I really wasn't sure how true that was., Because when you look up what IRCC says about minors citizenship application requirement on their site, it states that minors needs to have accumulate the 3 out of 5 years required same as adults, My Bad, Maybe i just didn't really read through everything in depth to see this part of NO WAITING PERIOD,so I wasn't really sure.

Kid in question is still 6months old. And I don't know if the whole NO WAITING PERIOD TO APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP AFTER ARRIVING AS PR, applies to a child / children's below a certain age.- Please I will appreciate if you could shed more light on this.

Thank you for very explicit breakdown and explaination., I was thinking as much we don't really get to hear about it often., there may humanitarian ground on maybe few cases like this where Citizenship could have been granted to a Child, even if a Child was born just Couple days after a parent became a Citizen themself. But Maybe Not. Very difficult to say if this may have happened and how often it does happen, If at all.

Thanks oncemore Armoured, for your very details clarification, and really look forward to you throwing abit more light on this NO WAITING PERIOD FOR A CHILD TO APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVE CANADA AS PR.

 

[armoured]

Thanks oncemore Armoured, for your very details clarification, and really look forward to you throwing abit more light on this NO WAITING PERIOD FOR A CHILD TO APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVE CANADA AS PR.

A child (minor) who has one Canadian citizen-parent can apply for citizenship without the waiting period. I have done so myself: as a Canadian by descent, my child did not get citizenship when born abroad; we applied for her when we moved to Canada and got it in due course without the residency requirement part.

There's a thread here:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/citizenship-application-for-children.606330/page-2#post-9808430

I think the key part is that this is an application under Section 5(2) but I might have it backwards and it's 5(1).
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/application-canadian-citizenship-minors.html

I do not believe there are any particular or different requirements with respect to adopted or surrogate children as long as they are legally the child of the Canadian citizen (i.e. need to show parentage). But I wouldn't know if there were any special requirements. You'll have to look into that part.

 

[Pragmatic]

A child (minor) who has one Canadian citizen-parent can apply for citizenship without the waiting period. I have done so myself: as a Canadian by descent, my child did not get citizenship when born abroad; we applied for her when we moved to Canada and got it in due course without the residency requirement part.

There's a thread here:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/citizenship-application-for-children.606330/page-2#post-9808430

I think the key part is that this is an application under Section 5(2) but I might have it backwards and it's 5(1).
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/application-canadian-citizenship-minors.html

I do not believe there are any particular or different requirements with respect to adopted or surrogate children as long as they are legally the child of the Canadian citizen (i.e. need to show parentage). But I wouldn't know if there were any special requirements. You'll have to look into that part.

Armoured, I am indeed so grateful with your explanation., I really do appreciate this breakdown with facts and reference, and a breakdown like this coming from someone who had such experience and applied for your daughter's citizenship right away without a waiting period speaks a great deal of volume. Thanks so much I will put this in mind for the future., and also thanks for all these useful links you added they are really helpful.

 

[armoured]

Armoured, I am indeed so grateful with your explanation., I really do appreciate this breakdown with facts and reference, and a breakdown like this coming from someone who had such experience and applied for your daughter's citizenship right away without a waiting period speaks a great deal of volume. Thanks so much I will put this in mind for the future., and also thanks for all these useful links you added they are really helpful.

Please take care, not sure how clear I was, about the point that the child must first become a PR, i.e. come to Canada, before applying for the grant of citizenship - but at that point, no need to meet the days-of-residency requirement.

Good luck.

 

[Dfav]

@Pragmatic please how did you bring the kids to Canada?

 

[Pragmatic]

@Pragmatic please how did you bring the kids to Canada?

Kid is not in Canada yet. WIP