Suicide attempt by my friend out of frustration

[affan_123]

All,

Yesterday evening my friend tried suicide out of frustration. He is sitting at 449 and hasn't received ITA. He is currently admitted to hospital and doing OK. His parents are in state of shock. Guys just piece of advice, please dont take any silly step. Have patience.

Tell your friend his attempt of suicide is for a country which is already struggling to stabilise its economy. There are no white collar jobs in Canada especially for foreign grads and experience. the country we are residing is much much better place than Canada in terms of jobs, own house and freedom. Canada is a charm and a dream but Its a wildest dream.

 

[ntwkengg]

My GC was started with a previous employer...I left after I140, PD is 2013. At current rate I will be current in 2023. I know Canada is tougher, I will not move unless I have a job.

thats great then dont worry. better to stay in US.....

 

[hope1712]

First of all make sure your friend never do this again give him hopes.. I know if he went up to this much he must have gone through some really bad times. Canadian dream well let him know what ever is written here by other members and what i am going to write is completely true. Canada is going through a Great Recession and canadian dollar is standing no where. Finding a good job is like winning a lottery, i have freinds having masters degree and wirking ina security company for lowest wage. In next few months canadian economy will be in worse than ever as oil industry is completely screwed. More than 10000 people only in alberta were layed off and are more stressed than you. Dont look at few hundread people who have better jobs look at rest of the population struggling to servive. I am here for last 5 years and still far away from my goals as i am unable to overcome expenses and still far away from dream life. You will not consider my comments untill you would go through all this. Good luck life is not all about canada

well said..after reading your comments I even started thinking positive. My file was rejected 2 times just for a simple document I have kept WES xerox copy. My dream was to go to Canada leaving a good job with a good pay in South Africa. But now I should rethink..thanks

 

[Englishman1987]

All,

Yesterday evening my friend tried suicide out of frustration. He is sitting at 449 and hasn't received ITA. He is currently admitted to hospital and doing OK. His parents are in state of shock. Guys just piece of advice, please dont take any silly step. Have patience.

Not nice to read, hope all is well now.

 

[Alexios07]

Am I the only here that think his act is very stupid and of a weak-willed person? He is just at the VERY FIRST step of a new life and already cannot withstand the wait and pressure ? then how the hell he could migrate and face a long and harsh job hunting process in a totally new and culturally difference country ? Canada doesn't need another man to jump in front of the bus or skytrain in rush hour again.

 

[c.james]

Am I the only here that think his act is very stupid and of a weak-willed person? He is just at the VERY FIRST step of a new life and already cannot withstand the wait and pressure ? then how the hell he could migrate and face a long and harsh job hunting process in a totally new and culturally difference country ? Canada doesn't need another man to jump in front of the bus or skytrain in rush hour again.

No point to judge any person's action or outcomes. It's obvious to compare situation, apart there is more to life than one purpose or goal. Considering Canada is one of toughest decisions to make several indicators are:

- Car (Must needed)
- Phone (must needed)
- Stress (persistent and unending)
- Credit card (must needed)


As you land here passing driving test will be a nightmare, my friend failed it 5 times but had to pass it anyhow to get a job. You also have to be good with computers for sure mostly education courses assignments, quizzes are loaded with excel, word and power point. Some mid-term exam are computer based. Surviving in snow is close to hell - it can also lead to seasonal depression when you can't go out of your house. How long are you going to watch Tv or spend time on internet ?

-Even banking they have e-deposit (mobile deposits), direct deposits, pre-authorized withdrawal.

One more head ups is healthcare is close to "nothing" - god forbid if you end up in some pain you will have endless waiting times for simple visit and doctors visit with you in patient room will only last 2 minutes hardly. Please don't raise hopes especially when you're moving to Canada.

Even after being permanent residence some are in quest of gathering all money and pack bags up.

 

[kateg]

These are recommendations, not judgements.

As you land here passing driving test will be a nightmare, my friend failed it 5 times but had to pass it anyhow to get a job

Canada has a mass-transit system. If you live in a larger city, you can usually get to and from work without needing a car. It takes a little longer, but it's doable. There are driving schools as well, and they can be a good investment for the proof of funds money.

You also have to be good with computers for sure mostly education courses assignments, quizzes are loaded with excel, word and power point.

Absolutely. There are some good resources online for learning computer skills.

Surviving in snow is close to hell - it can also lead to seasonal depression when you can't go out of your house. How long are you going to watch Tv or spend time on internet ?

I suffer from seasonal depression when left untreated. Get some really good bulbs, something like this:

http://www.amazon.ca/Cowboystudio-Spectrum-Lighting-85-Photography/dp/B003MU7GLQ

CFL is better than LED.

You can get them in a kit with a diffuser - they look something like this:

http://www.amazon.ca/Cowboystudio-Photography-Continuous-Reflective-Umbrellas/dp/B004C867R6

They will fill the room with light, of the type that will keep the depression from kicking in. The diffuser keeps it from having bright spots in your face.

One more head ups is healthcare is close to "nothing" - god forbid if you end up in some pain you will have endless waiting times for simple visit and doctors visit with you in patient room will only last 2 minutes hardly

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There are walk-in clinics in most locations. I generally wait from 20 minutes to an hour and a half to see a doctor. To help prevent abuse, they don't like prescribing large amounts of pain medication to people who they don't know, but they are generally OK with providing a referral to a specialist, and something to help until you can see them. With a referral, you get seen much faster.

The visit will be fairly quick, so that they can serve more patients in a short time. If there's an emergency, you can see someone fast if you need to.

 

[lotusEsp]

immigration is not a right - its something you have to work and fight for.

Its not THAT hard for many of us - whether thats luck or not I couldnt say. For example:

I didnt have to take a driving test, I had my driving lic automatically exchanged after just a 1min eye exam.

Phones can be bought cheaply and used pay as you go - no need for a contract

stress? apart from the actual PR processes my life has very little stress in it

you dont get free health
creditcard - TD give you a creditcard on the day you open your account - if you put up a reserved bond for it's value - which is fair enough.

 

[c.james]

These are recommendations, not judgements.

Canada has a mass-transit system. If you live in a larger city, you can usually get to and from work without needing a car. It takes a little longer, but it's doable. There are driving schools as well, and they can be a good investment for the proof of funds money.

Absolutely. There are some good resources online for learning computer skills.

I suffer from seasonal depression when left untreated. Get some really good bulbs, something like this:

http://www.amazon.ca/Cowboystudio-Spectrum-Lighting-85-Photography/dp/B003MU7GLQ

CFL is better than LED.

You can get them in a kit with a diffuser - they look something like this:

http://www.amazon.ca/Cowboystudio-Photography-Continuous-Reflective-Umbrellas/dp/B004C867R6

They will fill the room with light, of the type that will keep the depression from kicking in. The diffuser keeps it from having bright spots in your face.
.

There are walk-in clinics in most locations. I generally wait from 20 minutes to an hour and a half to see a doctor. To help prevent abuse, they don't like prescribing large amounts of pain medication to people who they don't know, but they are generally OK with providing a referral to a specialist, and something to help until you can see them. With a referral, you get seen much faster.

The visit will be fairly quick, so that they can serve more patients in a short time. If there's an emergency, you can see someone fast if you need to.

Appreciate you're views my whole idea of explanation is - Life is worth a lot then suicide or Canada.. there is more to life ;D

 

[c.james]

immigration is not a right - its something you have to work and fight for.

Its not THAT hard for many of us - whether thats luck or not I couldnt say. For example:

I didnt have to take a driving test, I had my driving lic automatically exchanged after just a 1min eye exam.

Phones can be bought cheaply and used pay as you go - no need for a contract

stress? apart from the actual PR processes my life has very little stress in it

you dont get free health
creditcard - TD give you a creditcard on the day you open your account - if you put up a reserved bond for it's value - which is fair enough.

Reading what you wrote I couldn't resist to express about my friend - He has 3 years work permit (PG) he started working when he had 2 years and 6 months remaining now as of today closely he has 3 months remaining still PNP office is not making a decision neither rejecting nor making a decision.

Other side of story 8 months ago his father passed away - I advised him to apply for bereavement leave (as it is legal right) guess what his employer did said 3 days as per law that's all you get, if you still want to go then I am not sure if you position will be any longer available. For the love of god in my lifetime I never felt these helpless that couldn't do anything just let life happens. Did not even get to see his father for last time even.

Immigrants just want answers (in fair amount) no one is asking for special treatment. In my opinion "Yes" or "No" does suffice, so moving forward in life is possible.

 

[lotusEsp]

I know you are right, but no-one is forcing us to immigrate. It's their country, they can handle the process however they like. We just have to suck it up


Think yourselves lucky you are not trying for citizenship in Switzerland. There they have have a voting system in the Canton, where your neighbours & people in your area can vote for/against you

 

[mead]

No point to judge any person's action or outcomes. It's obvious to compare situation, apart there is more to life than one purpose or goal. Considering Canada is one of toughest decisions to make several indicators are:

- Car (Must needed)
- Phone (must needed)
- Stress (persistent and unending)
- Credit card (must needed)


As you land here passing driving test will be a nightmare, my friend failed it 5 times but had to pass it anyhow to get a job. You also have to be good with computers for sure mostly education courses assignments, quizzes are loaded with excel, word and power point. Some mid-term exam are computer based. Surviving in snow is close to hell - it can also lead to seasonal depression when you can't go out of your house. How long are you going to watch Tv or spend time on internet ?

-Even banking they have e-deposit (mobile deposits), direct deposits, pre-authorized withdrawal.

One more head ups is healthcare is close to "nothing" - god forbid if you end up in some pain you will have endless waiting times for simple visit and doctors visit with you in patient room will only last 2 minutes hardly. Please don't raise hopes especially when you're moving to Canada.

Even after being permanent residence some are in quest of gathering all money and pack bags up.

I agree with there is no point in judging anyone and we shouldnt do that as pointed above by kateg

- Car (Must needed)
Car is not a must but having a car will save u time
- Phone (must needed)
well phone is a must but there very cheap plans like $20 per month etc and phone is now a days must in any where in the world.
- Stress (persistent and unending)
stress depends on the person and one can get stress anywhere. Like my wife gets stressed if she sees a bug.
- Credit card (must needed)
most likely u get a debit card free when u open an account

-Even banking they have e-deposit (mobile deposits), direct deposits, pre-authorized withdrawal.
how is that bad? u want big queues?

One more head ups is healthcare is close to "nothing"
thats not true ..i agree finding a family doctor is difficult but walk in clinics are pretty good. if u use emergency service for non emergency needs its going to be a problem. healthcare is free in canada and most drugs are covered with a minimal charge to u.

 

[Alexios07]

No point to judge any person's action or outcomes. It's obvious to compare situation, apart there is more to life than one purpose or goal. Considering Canada is one of toughest decisions to make several indicators are:

- Car (Must needed)
As you land here passing driving test will be a nightmare, my friend failed it 5 times but had to pass it anyhow to get a job. You also have to be good with computers for sure mostly education courses assignments, quizzes are loaded with excel, word and power point. Some mid-term exam are computer based. Surviving in snow is close to hell - it can also lead to seasonal depression when you can't go out of your house. How long are you going to watch Tv or spend time on internet ?

If you live in Vancouver, then you don't really need a car, for the public transit here is very good and frequent. However, it's not the case of Edmonton or other cities. I do agree on the driving test, it's very hard, and you will definitely fail at your first test.

One more head ups is healthcare is close to "nothing" - god forbid if you end up in some pain you will have endless waiting times for simple visit and doctors visit with you in patient room will only last 2 minutes hardly. Please don't raise hopes especially when you're moving to Canada.

Are you comparing Canadian healthcare with UK's or other Nordic countries' ? because I think Canadian healthcare is pretty good already. Like kateg said, just find a nearest walk-in clinic and you can have a check up in less than half an hour. On my first year in Canada, one of my international student friend had a rare case of blood cancer (leukemia something), and she got her treatment absolutely free of charge. Top notch quality care.

 

[c.james]

If you live in Vancouver, then you don't really need a car, for the public transit here is very good and frequent. However, it's not the case of Edmonton or other cities. I do agree on the driving test, it's very hard, and you will definitely fail at your first test.

Are you comparing Canadian healthcare with UK's or other Nordic countries' ? because I think Canadian healthcare is pretty good already. Like kateg said, just find a nearest walk-in clinic and you can have a check up in less than half an hour. On my first year in Canada, one of my international student friend had a rare case of blood cancer (leukemia something), and she got her treatment absolutely free of charge. Top notch quality care.

I AM NOT BRAGGING ABOUT CANADA:

Situation depends on cities where you reside. Like Toronto has best (Presto) Metro Linx you can use presto on HSR and Burlington and also Via Rail. I know that ?

What you're in Alberta, Manitoba - some routes have 1 bus schedules in hour, so if you miss that even by 5 minutes then you have to wait for close to 2 hours, mind you Alberta has the most expensive transit system in Canada, still it has loops.

Now, Healthcare google clinics in Edmonton, Alberta for sake of knowing it and see when you get an appointment. Don't judge by you're surrounding I am not judging anyone here, sharing views

 

[mead]

I AM NOT BRAGGING ABOUT CANADA:

Situation depends on cities where you reside. Like Toronto has best (Presto) Metro Linx you can use presto on HSR and Burlington and also Via Rail. I know that ?

What you're in Alberta, Manitoba - some routes have 1 bus schedules in hour, so if you miss that even by 5 minutes then you have to wait for close to 2 hours, mind you Alberta has the most expensive transit system in Canada, still it has loops.

Now, Healthcare google clinics in Edmonton, Alberta for sake of knowing it and see when you get an appointment. Don't judge by you're surrounding I am not judging anyone here, sharing views

yes cities in remote part have some issue with public transit.

however healthcare is not that bad. there r a lot of walk in clinics in edmonton . walk in clinics are just that walk in no appointments necessary. ur local drug store may have a walk in clinic. if u want family doctors then yes u have to wait for appointment. if u have emergency u just hurry on to ur nearest hospital emergency room no need for appointment again. family doctors r needed when u need continual care like regular visits like say u have diabetes then u need certain amount of regular check ups for which u have to plan and find a family doctor.