Suggestion for Migration

[kishore.joshi@rediffmail]

Hello,
I am a Mechanical engineer with more than 10 years of experience in Marine domain (Engineering and Design).
I am not about to decide to move to which country for better job prospectus (Canada/Australia).
Can you please help me for selecting the country as far as scope of work for an engineer is concern?

 

[thejkhan]

Canada is easier. Wait for more # of ITAs in the 4th quarter or next year.

 

[jairichi]

Hello,
I am a Mechanical engineer with more than 10 years of experience in Marine domain (Engineering and Design).
I am not about to decide to move to which country for better job prospectus (Canada/Australia).
Can you please help me for selecting the country as far as scope of work for an engineer is concern?

Australian PR is a pretty straightforward and quick process.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/australia-immigration-t428290.0.html

 

[thejkhan]

Australian PR is a pretty straightforward and quick process.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/australia-immigration-t428290.0.html

Extremely misleading.

On the surface it looks like another points based system. But it's actually a two step process, the first of which involves skills assessment (differs between professions, so certainly not straightforward) and you could lose years of experience to be assessed +ve, leaving you with less number of years for claiming points.


Anyways, I'm pretty sure when you say straightforward, you actually don't have any idea what the OP has to go through to get assessed +ve (the first step).


He has to undergo the painstaking CDR application process as part of skills assessment by Engineers Australia. CDR sucks the life out of you. And once you're done, you won't have enough remaining eligible years of experience to claim points and reach the bare minimum 60.

 

[jairichi]

Canada is easier. Wait for more # of ITAs in the 4th quarter or next year.

Actually speaking your post is misleading. It is not an established fact that more ITAs will be available in the 4th quarter of this year or next year. Is that published by CIC or IRCC? Even if available do you have any idea what the cutoffs will be. Unlike Canadian immigration which is highly unpredictable like a jackpot lottery Australian PR process can be predicted easily and is completely transparent. What you state are speculations or wild guesses. And, Engineers Australia does not reduce work experience during assessment as OP has a mechanical engineering degree. I agree CDR is a tough process. Let OP take a call on that. Just because you find it tough does not mean everyone has to find it tough.

And, importantly EE of Canada was adopted from Australia and NZ immigration system.

For your kind information I got my Australia PR in May 2016 while I filed my EOI (Expression Of Interest) in March 2016. That means I am well aware and you are not aware of the process.

 

[thejkhan]

Actually speaking your post is misleading. It is not an established fact that more ITAs will be available in the 4th quarter of this year or next year. Is that published by CIC or IRCC? Even if available do you have any idea what the cutoffs will be.

As I said before, I am very familiar with both the old pre-EE system and following the current EE trend.

There is nothing random. The draws are made to meet a fixed immigration target.


Just when they started issuing PRs to pre-EE applicants in vast numbers (after a long hold), EE number of ITAs went down significantly. This also coincided with increased target for refugees.


There isn't much left to speculation. The numbers will go up by 4th quarter or next year, to the 1500 or more ITAs level.

I won't argue further about this.

And, Engineers Australia does not reduce work experience during assessment as OP has a mechanical engineering degree.

His degree is not recognised under the Washington accord - he will potentially lose years of experience.

For your kind information I got my Australia PR in May 2016 while I filed my EOI (Expression Of Interest) in March 2016. That means I am well aware and you are not aware of the process.

I'm totally aware of your status. But simply because you have PR you can't say it's easy for everyone.

You probably had a relevant degree major (IT) and 2 years of relevant experience and an occupation on SOL. That made it straightforward for you.

For myself, I'd need 7 (4+3) years of IT experience (my engineering major being ICT minor), of which 3 years would be to get 5 points to reach 60. Anything but straightforward!

On the other hand, for Canadian PR I qualified with only 1 year of ICT experience.

 

[jairichi]

As I said before, I am very familiar with both the old pre-EE system and following the current trend.

There is nothing random. The draws are made to meet a fixed immigration target.


Just when they started issuing PRs to pre-EE applicants in vast numbers (after a long hold), EE number of ITAs went down significantly. This also coincided with increased target for refugees.


There isn't much left to speculation. The numbers will go up by 4th quarter or next year, to the 1500 or more ITAs level.

I won't argue further about this.

Well, you cannot argue on this because there is nothing on record from CIC or IRCC.

His degree is not recognised under the Washington accord - he will potentially lose years of experience.

I can bet that OP will not lose any years when assessed with EA. Even if OP loses 2 years due to assessment s/he will still have 8 years work experience that will fetch 15 points.

I'm totally aware of your status. But simply because you have PR you can't say it's easy for everyone.

You probably had a relevant degree major (IT) and 2 years of relevant experience and an occupation on SOL. That made it straightforward for you.

For myself, I'd need 7 (4+3) years of IT experience (my engineering major being ICT minor), of which 3 years would be to get 5 points to reach 60.

On the other hand, for Canadian PR I qualified with only 1 year of ICT experience.

Well, your case is different as you did not have relevant degree and experience. Your assessment agency was ACS and every one who got assessment done with ACS knows that 2 years of work experience is deducted by them to determine the 'date deemed skilled'. It does not apply to all assessment agency and one of them is EA. OP's case is similar like mine. Relevant degree and experience. So, s/he has a good chance with Australian PR rather than wait for Canadian PR.

It is a nice discussion. Now let us allow OP to take a call based on our discussion.