Substitute for Experience letter

[nilesh29]

Hi All,

I have a question for proving my working experience with an employer in the U.S for the Express Entry.

This was an EVC (Employer-Vendor-Client) model where I worked for an end client "A" at it's client site. "A" contracted its services for me through "B" and "C".

"A" (Client) -----> "B" (Implementation Partner) -----> "C" (Employer/Vendor) -------> Me

I was employed and paid by "C" full-time between April 2015 and May 2016. Upon several requests made with "C", I wasn't able to get an employment verification letter from "C" that proves my roles/responsibilities, hours and salary, etc according to CIC format. They ignore my requests. No luck with "B" as well since they denied saying that I need to get it from my employer "A". Of course, no luck with "A" as well, as they (managers/senior team members) seem to ignore emails from past contractors.

Dates worked/employed: April 2015 to May 2016

However, I have the following documents with me:

1. Client Letter from "A" dated March 17, 2016: This letter was obtained from "A" for H1-B renewal purpose, and it states my job title and detailed job duties performed at its work site as a Programmer Analyst.

2. Client "A" Identity Card: It bears my full name and photograph

3. Client "A" Weekly Timesheets: Details the number of hours worked per week on a daily basis for April 2015 to May 2016. (Screenshots)

4. Implementation Partner "B" Timesheet: Document showing same number of hours worked and approved by a person working with "B"

5. 2015 Form W-2 from "C"

6. 2016 Form W-2 from "C"

7. Just one 2015 year-end pay-stub from "C": Shows wages received in 2015 same as 2015 W-2 mentioned above. However, this shows my pay-rate per hour if it's needed.

8. Monthly Bank Statements: Statements between April 2015 and May 2016 showing salary credits from "C"

Lastly, I can get a letter from a person working with "A" as a contractor that can attest that I performed those job duties and can include his identity and email contact info.

Do you think all of the above substitute documents in place of a reference letter prove my experience and satisfy CIC requirements (job title, job duties, hours and dates worked, salary info)? Are there any pitfalls here?

Would be helpful if anyone who had similar substitute documents got through Express Entry can shed light on this issue.

Thanks a lot.

 

[hope2018]

Hi All,

I have a question for proving my working experience with an employer in the U.S for the Express Entry.

This was an EVC (Employer-Vendor-Client) model where I worked for an end client "A" at it's client site. "A" contracted its services for me through "B" and "C".

"A" (Client) -----> "B" (Implementation Partner) -----> "C" (Employer/Vendor) -------> Me

I was employed and paid by "C" full-time between April 2015 and May 2016. Upon several requests made with "C", I wasn't able to get an employment verification letter from "C" that proves my roles/responsibilities, hours and salary, etc according to CIC format. They ignore my requests. No luck with "B" as well since they denied saying that I need to get it from my employer "A". Of course, no luck with "A" as well, as they (managers/senior team members) seem to ignore emails from past contractors.

Dates worked/employed: April 2015 to May 2016

However, I have the following documents with me:

1. Client Letter from "A" dated March 17, 2016: This letter was obtained from "A" for H1-B renewal purpose, and it states my job title and detailed job duties performed at its work site as a Programmer Analyst.

2. Client "A" Identity Card: It bears my full name and photograph

3. Client "A" Weekly Timesheets: Details the number of hours worked per week on a daily basis for April 2015 to May 2016. (Screenshots)

4. Implementation Partner "B" Timesheet: Document showing same number of hours worked and approved by a person working with "B"

5. 2015 Form W-2 from "C"

6. 2016 Form W-2 from "C"

7. Just one 2015 year-end pay-stub from "C": Shows wages received in 2015 same as 2015 W-2 mentioned above. However, this shows my pay-rate per hour if it's needed.

8. Monthly Bank Statements: Statements between April 2015 and May 2016 showing salary credits from "C"

Lastly, I can get a letter from a person working with "A" as a contractor that can attest that I performed those job duties and can include his identity and email contact info.

Do you think all of the above substitute documents in place of a reference letter prove my experience and satisfy CIC requirements (job title, job duties, hours and dates worked, salary info)? Are there any pitfalls here?

Would be helpful if anyone who had similar substitute documents got through Express Entry can shed light on this issue.

Thanks a lot.

If you were on payrolls of 'C' then I would say that's where your reference letter should come from, if they are not willing to provide, can anybody who is working in 'C' can you provide the same to you? You will need to attach your job offer letter with them, paystubs, visiting card of colleague/supervisor who is writing that letter for you. Points 5 & 6 are valid and can be shown as relates to 'C', but Points 1, 2 & 3 are not very useful. If you do the way you just explained you will make it overtly confusing for IRCC. Keep it simple, get a letter from 'C' along with other supporting docs and possibly a letter from C where they refused to provide you reference letter.

 

[viki1805]

If you were on payrolls of 'C' then I would say that's where your reference letter should come from, if they are not willing to provide, can anybody who is working in 'C' can you provide the same to you? You will need to attach your job offer letter with them, paystubs, visiting card of colleague/supervisor who is writing that letter for you. Points 5 & 6 are valid and can be shown as relates to 'C', but Points 1, 2 & 3 are not very useful. If you do the way you just explained you will make it overtly confusing for IRCC. Keep it simple, get a letter from 'C' along with other supporting docs and possibly a letter from C where they refused to provide you reference letter.

just to add to this, IMO having a proof of denial from company C to provide a reference letter in the format that CIC requires will definitely be super helpful when you explain why you got someone from A to attest to your job duties but of course the best way to go is to get the letter from your actual employer which is company C.

 

[nilesh29]

If you were on payrolls of 'C' then I would say that's where your reference letter should come from, if they are not willing to provide, can anybody who is working in 'C' can you provide the same to you? You will need to attach your job offer letter with them, paystubs, visiting card of colleague/supervisor who is writing that letter for you. Points 5 & 6 are valid and can be shown as relates to 'C', but Points 1, 2 & 3 are not very useful. If you do the way you just explained you will make it overtly confusing for IRCC. Keep it simple, get a letter from 'C' along with other supporting docs and possibly a letter from C where they refused to provide you reference letter.

Thanks a lot, @hope2018
Since I'm unable to get a reference letter directly from "C", I could attach a letter from a colleague who used to work for "C" during my employment period and attest my title, job duties and probably attach his/her W-2 as a proof that he/she was employed by "C" as well.

just to add to this, IMO having a proof of denial from company C to provide a reference letter in the format that CIC requires will definitely be super helpful when you explain why you got someone from A to attest to your job duties but of course the best way to go is to get the letter from your actual employer which is company C.

Thanks @viki1805
In addition to the above, I could add point 1 which is a client letter stating the job duties.