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jasbir78

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dear friends..

skilled worker file have bachelor degree completed in correspondence mode.
would the candidate get 22 points ?

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if it is at least a 2 year degree (full time 2 years at least), then 20 points IF the OP also has the required number of years of education.
 

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jasbir78 said:
dear friends..

skilled worker file have bachelor degree completed in correspondence mode.
would the candidate get 22 points ?

thaanks
Once again: FYI
Just for information: I hope this will help a lot of us.
Education:

• “Educational credential” is defined in R73 as any diploma, degree or trade or apprenticeship
credential issued on the completion of a program of study or training at an educational or
training institution recognized by the authorities responsible for registering, accrediting,
supervising and regulating such institutions in the country of issue.

• “Full-time” is defined in R78(1) as requiring at least 15 hours of instruction per week during
the academic year, including any period of training in the workplace that forms part of the
course of study.

• “Full-time equivalent” means, in respect of part-time or accelerated studies, the period of time
that would have been required to complete those studies on a full-time basis.


Education
Officers should assess programs of study and award points based on the standards that exist in
the country of study. The Regulations do not provide for comparisons to Canadian educational
standards;

If the applicant has an educational credential referred to in a particular paragraph in R78(2) but
not the total number of years of study required by that paragraph, officers should award the
number of points set out in the paragraph that refers to the number of years of study completed
by the applicant [R78(4)].

Example: 1. If an applicant has a master's degree, but only 16 years of education, an officer would go
down to the category for which the applicant meets the total number of years and, using this example,
award 22 points;

Example: 2. If an applicant has a four-year bachelor's degree and 16 years of education, an officer
would award 20 points, as a single two, three, or four-year university credential at the bachelor's level,
combined with at least 14 years of full-time study, is worth 20 points;

Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential.

Pursuant to R77, officers should award points for the credential and years of study that the
applicant has completed at the time the application is made. If further study is completed and
documentation submitted between application and assessment, officers must award the points for
the highest educational credential obtained at the time of assessment.

A distance learning credential is eligible for points as long as it meets the definition of a credential
as outlined in R73. If the credential is not described in terms of number of years duration (i.e.,
three-year bachelor's degree), officers should apply the definition of full-time equivalent study and
knowledge that the visa office has acquired on local education institutions and credentials.

There is a high incidence of fraud in this area. Verification checks should be conducted with
issuing institutions to ensure that program integrity standards are respected.

Pursuant to R78, officers should assess the application and award the applicant up to a maximum
of 25 points for education as follows: download OP6 to see the table
Disclaimer:
These are not my definitions. This is an extract from op6.pdf Page 13. I am neither an Immigration Expert nor a legal Advisor.
 

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Below is a detailed description of all factors that are to be assessed.

Factor 1 Points are awarded for earned educational credentials as well as the number of
Education years of full-time studies or full-time equivalent studies. To be awarded
(maximum points, you must meet both stated criteria.
of 25
points) Full-time studies: At least 15 hours of instruction per week during the
academic year. This includes any period of workplace training that forms part of
the course.

Full-time equivalent studies: If you completed a program of study on a
part-time or accelerated basis, count the length of time it would have taken to
complete the program on a full-time basis.

Use the chart below to determine your points. If you have not completed the
number of years of study that correspond to your highest educational
credential, award yourself points based on the number of years of study.

Example 1: If you have a Master's degree but have completed only 16 years of
full-time study, award yourself 22 points.
Example 2: If you have a four-year Bachelor's degree and have completed 14
or more years of study, award yourself 20 points.

• Master's or PhD AND at least 17 years of full-time or full-time 25
equivalent study
• Two or more university degrees at the Bachelor's level AND at 22
least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A three year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 22
least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A university degree of two years or more at the Bachelor's level, 20
AND at least 14 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A two year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 20
least 14 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A one year university degree at the Bachelor's level AND at 15
least 13 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A one year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 15
least 13 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• A one year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 12
least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
• Secondary school (also called high school) 5
 

rupeshhari

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Hey BobbyB, quick questions. Suppose someone has 12 years of school and then does a 3 year apprenticeship. Does that mean they have 15 years of education. Does education have to be like doing a diploma, degree, etc.

I am trying to understand this:
A one year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study

Does the 12 years include the apprenticeship or is the apprenticeship over and above the formal education (like with lectures at university or diploma granting institutions).

Hope all is well.
 

BobbyB

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rupeshhari said:
Hey BobbyB, quick questions. Suppose someone has 12 years of school and then does a 3 year apprenticeship. Does that mean they have 15 years of education. Does education have to be like doing a diploma, degree, etc.

According to my understanding:
Yes. 12+3=15 years ===>A three year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 22
least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study

Note that even an apprenticeship is taken to be an Educational Credential, because at the end of the apprenticeship, you are normally supposed to sit and pass an Exam. (E.g Commerce, Trade and Industry Exams of a Country - Skilled Workers)

I am trying to understand this:
A one year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study
According to my understanding:
A one year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship AND at 12

least 12 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study


Does the 12 years include the apprenticeship or is the apprenticeship over and above the formal education (like with lectures at university or diploma granting institutions).

Yes, This includes the apprenticeship, according to my understanding. e.g If you have 12 years of education and achieve a diploma or Trade certificate in those (at the end of the 12 years).
Normally, if you do a breakdown of the normal trend of education in a particular country, Let us take for example Nigeria. In Nigeria, the primary Education is 6 Years, Secondary is 5 Years. So we have a total of 11 Years. With a secondary school leaving certificate(WAEC-west African Examination Council) some people either start working or take up an apprenticeship for a year. So they have(11+1)12 years of Education.

Those who want to study further go for "A Level's", some do the "JAMB- Joint admission and Matriculation Board Exams to get to a University for further studies".Such people will then have more than 12 years of Education anyway.

If they then achieve a Bachelor's or Master's degree.
So, if I break that down as well. e.g If a JAMB applicant passes and get admission for a course that earns him a 3 years Bachelor's Degree, he has 11 years plus 3 Uni years = 14 years of studies. if it is a 4 -years degree he has 11+4 =15 years of Education.

I personally think it is the same type of calculation for every other country. All you need to do is count the no of primary+secondary+no of years spent to achieve a Diploma, Certificate (apprenticeship) or Degree.

Hope all is well.
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Hope all is well with you too?



HOPE THESE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS??
 

rupeshhari

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yes. thank you. This should help those chartered accounts answer how many points they get for education.

Thanks.
 

DesiMike

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BobbyB:
What about this scenario. If some one have following education qualification completed in the give order.

1) Completed in 1992: Completed Grade 10
2) From 1993-To 1996: Completed Apprenticeship (4 year program)
3) From 1997-To 1998: Complete Grade 12 (2 year program)
4) From 1999-To 2005: Complete Bachelor of Arts Degree (2 year program completed in 7 years due to work in parallel)

Q1) How can we answer "Schedule 1 Background / Declaration : Question 10" for calculating number of years of education at each like such as primary, secondary, university/college, and trade school?

Q2) Also how can we answer "Application for Permanent Residence in Canada: Question 12" for calculating total number of years of education? Should I check both 'Bachelor degree' and 'Trade/Apprenticeship'?