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Hossain619

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My visa got rejected for no genuine reason I can find out. Applied on 8th May and got rejected on 9th June.
I Bangladeshi immigrant living in UAE past 13 years. Completed my Bachelor's in 2018 from UAE. Showed every document from UAE and from Bangladesh. Current UAE status is a family business partner.

College: Sault college.

Please help me how to overcome this visa rejection. Should I apply again from UAE as it will hard for me to travel to Bangladesh and apply again? Now the situation in Bangladesh is not good due to Coivid-19 and strict lockdown. I had made lots of plans and now everything is spoiled.

Or should I consider UK.

Everything is explained in SOP and it clearly seems they didn't read my SOP. The reason they have point out are already explained in the SOP.


• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of
residence.





15/07/2021 got my GCMS notes and the reason was given as follows:

Bangladeshi ctzen. 25yrs old. single.
Seeking SP to study Global Business Management at Sault college.

PA obtained Bach of Business ADmin in 2018 & has been working since graduating as Sales marketing specialist @ trading company. in dubai .

I am not satisfied that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of their stay as a temporary resident, I note that:

-the client is single, mobile, is not well established and is not sufficiently established , his residency is tied to his employment. If he leaves his employment to study abroad, he would need to be sponsored again in the future to return. Weak professional and economic ties to COR and home country.

After considering the applicant's academic and professional history, their financial situation, as well as their planned studies and explanation provided for it, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a genuine student who will pursue studies in Canada. The stated benefits of their intended studies do not seem to warrant the cost and difficulty of undertaking foreign education.

Taking the applicant's current employment situation into consideration, the employment does not demonstrate that the applicant is sufficiently well established that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of a period of authorized stay.

Based on the applicant’s limited employment prospects in their country of residence/citizenship, I have accorded less weight to their ties to their country of residence/citizenship.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.
For the reasons above, I have refused this application.


Can you please tell me how to overcome it and successfully apply it again for a positive result.

Thank you
 

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"After considering the applicant's academic and professional history, their financial situation, as well as their planned studies and explanation provided for it, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a genuine student who will pursue studies in Canada. The stated benefits of their intended studies do not seem to warrant the cost and difficulty of undertaking foreign education."

This is crux of your refusal, period. College diploma is not a progression for you, as you already have a BBA and work experience. This program gives you competitive edge in the market. VO feels your intended program is not a reasonable investment, and rightly so. Change to a Masters degree e.g. MBA.
 
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itsmecan

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My visa got rejected for no genuine reason I can find out. Applied on 8th May and got rejected on 9th June.
I Bangladeshi immigrant living in UAE past 13 years. Completed my Bachelor's in 2018 from UAE. Showed every document from UAE and from Bangladesh. Current UAE status is a family business partner.

College: Sault college.

Please help me how to overcome this visa rejection. Should I apply again from UAE as it will hard for me to travel to Bangladesh and apply again? Now the situation in Bangladesh is not good due to Coivid-19 and strict lockdown. I had made lots of plans and now everything is spoiled.

Or should I consider UK.

Everything is explained in SOP and it clearly seems they didn't read my SOP. The reason they have point out are already explained in the SOP.


• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of
residence.





15/07/2021 got my GCMS notes and the reason was given as follows:

Bangladeshi ctzen. 25yrs old. single.
Seeking SP to study Global Business Management at Sault college.

PA obtained Bach of Business ADmin in 2018 & has been working since graduating as Sales marketing specialist @ trading company. in dubai .

I am not satisfied that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of their stay as a temporary resident, I note that:

-the client is single, mobile, is not well established and is not sufficiently established , his residency is tied to his employment. If he leaves his employment to study abroad, he would need to be sponsored again in the future to return. Weak professional and economic ties to COR and home country.

After considering the applicant's academic and professional history, their financial situation, as well as their planned studies and explanation provided for it, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a genuine student who will pursue studies in Canada. The stated benefits of their intended studies do not seem to warrant the cost and difficulty of undertaking foreign education.

Taking the applicant's current employment situation into consideration, the employment does not demonstrate that the applicant is sufficiently well established that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of a period of authorized stay.

Based on the applicant’s limited employment prospects in their country of residence/citizenship, I have accorded less weight to their ties to their country of residence/citizenship.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.
For the reasons above, I have refused this application.


Can you please tell me how to overcome it and successfully apply it again for a positive result.

Thank you
Go through this forum, you will see lot of such rejections from the Abu Dhabi office especially for mature applicants from third world country. Consider applying from home country if you wish to have a fair and better chance.
 

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I'm shocked when applicants post here about refusals saying they have no idea why they are refused when one can usually spot the reason a mile off. In this case, I read to "Sault College" and I immediately knew the VO sees the intended program as irrelevant or a regression.

Having your application processed by Abu Dhabi office has a whole different layer of complexity attached no doubt, because most applications are non-Arabs who only have temporary residence. However, if you choose the correct program and Canada sees your coming there to be of future benefit to it, you'll have a better chance. For someone who already has Bachelors and work experience, applying to go to a college for diploma/certificate is a suicide mission. If the program is not going to lead to career progression, officer would assume you are only using it as a means to enter Canada, and they would not be wrong.

VOs know that 99% of people applying to study in Canada are doing so as a means to immigrate, no matter how much you swear by the gods that you intend to go back home. The problem is VOs need to consider that "if this person ends up staying in Canada, do they have competitive edge? Would they be able to get good jobs and contribute positively to the economy?" If they can't be sure of that, they will reject the application. Graduating with a common diploma or certificate in Canada does not give you any edge in the workforce. There will be loads of people competing for the same job who have higher qualifications.

I believe the excuse about having temporary status in the country of residence given to most UAE applicants is just an additional reason they tag on.

The main issue is that they are worried if this person doesn't have good prospects in Canada judging by their program of study, it will be difficult for them to go back where they came from, cos their status there is temporary. Such people are most likely to stay illegally in Canada. If you opt for relevant program (Masters, PhD etc) at proper public DLI and show adequate means to pay for your tuition and expenses (i.e. show that Canada will benefit from you should you decide to stay on after you graduate) , the excuse of "temporary residence status" will likely fall away.

I know quite a few people who work in Dubai, Bahrain etc and in the last couple of years have applied to pursue their Masters/PhD studies in Canada and none were rejected. It's on joining this forum that I saw the trends of UAE applications being refused en masse.

Important to note: put your best foot forward. Once you get a rejected based on an irrelevant course you have already compromised your chances. Changing programs further solidifies the VO's belief that you are only doing this to migrate (though changing programs might be your best bet). So, best to do it right the first time.
 
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I'm shocked when applicants post here about refusals saying they have no idea why they are refused when one can usually spot the reason a mile off. In this case, I read to "Sault College" and I immediately knew the VO sees the intended program as irrelevant or a regression.

Having your application processed by Abu Dhabi office presents has a whole different layer of complexity attached no doubt, because most applications are non-Arabs who only have temporary residence. However, if you choose the correct program and Canada sees your coming there to be of future benefit to it, you'll have a better chance. For someone who already has Bachelors and work experience, applying to go to a college for diploma/certificate is a suicide mission. If the program is not going to lead to career progression, officer would assume you are only using it as a means to enter Canada, and they would not be wrong.

VOs know that 99% of people applying to study in Canada are doing so as a means to immigrate, no matter how much you swear by the gods that you intend to go back home. The problem is that VOs need to consider that "if this person ends up staying in Canada, do they have competitive edge? Would they be able to get good jobs and contribute positively to the economy?" If they can't be sure of that, they will reject the application. Graduating with a common diploma or certificate in Canada does not give you any edge in the workforce. There will loads of people competing for the same job who have higher qualifications.

I believe the excuse about having temporary status in the country of residence given to most UAE applicants is just an additional reason they tag on.

The main issue is that they are worried that if this person doesn't have good prospects in the Canada judging by their program of study, it will be difficult for them to go back where they came from, cos their status there is temporary. Such people are most likely to stay illegally in Canada. If you opt for relevant program (Masters, PhD etc) at proper public DLI and show adequate means to pay for your tuition and expenses (i.e. show that Canada will benefit from you should you decide to stay on after you graduate) , the excuse of "temporary residence status" will likely fall away.

I know quite a few people who work in Dubai, Bahrain etc and in the last couple of years have applied to pursue their Masters/PhD studies in Canada and none were rejected. It's on joining this forum that I saw the trends of UAE applications being refused en masse.

Important to note: put your best foot forward. Once you get a rejected based on an irrelevant course you have already compromised your chances. Changing programs further solidifies the VO's belief that you are only doing this to migrate (though changing programs might be your best bet). So, best to do it right the first time.
Only if this principle was applied by IRCC to all applicants around the globe I would have called it fair and square. I have seen absolutely terrible profiles (in terms of their job, education, finances, etc) get approved with their entire families but someone who has a great career progression, has no history of overstaying visas or criminal records, is framed as a person who will not leave the country.

Offcourse it is a given to atleast have your chosen course and basics aligned but rejecting just based on someone current residential status is beyond my understanding.
 
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Only if this principle was applied by IRCC to all applicants around the globe I would have called it fair and square. I have seen absolutely terrible profiles (in terms of their job, education, finances, etc) get approved with their entire families but someone who has a great career progression, has no history of overstaying visas or criminal records, is framed as a person who will not leave the country.

Offcourse it is a given to atleast have your chosen course and basics aligned but rejecting just based on someone current residential status is beyond my understanding.
No doubt, I have come across profiles whose approvals have surprised me just like you mentioned... and quite a FEW whose refusals have shocked me, but MOST refusals that I've seen around here are hardly inexplicable IMO.

Unfortunately, there's no principle of fair and square at play when it comes to IRCC.All applications are assessed on their individual merits and the IRCC officers are trained to spot issues that might not be glaringly obvious to a layperson (which is why getting GCMS notes is advisable so we can truly see what the VO considered during the assessment). One just needs to do their best to tick all the boxes and ensure you have a strong application. If you submit a shoddy application with irrelevant course/program, not enough funds, poor english language results etc, then you are diluting your chances of success. Control what you can control is what I'm saying :) .

Every application is assessed on their individual merit, within the policy, training and guidelines of IRCC. Hardly is it ever the case that an application is only evaluated by a single VO - more often than not, it passes through the hands of multiple VOs and even offices. I believe this is done for quality control and an attempt at fairness and accountability. My application from South Africa was passed around in 3 different offices - local, Ottawa and was finally approved in Shanghai.

I almost gave up the idea of applying for a SP because I was so scared by the sheer amount of refusals posted here, reddit FB etc. It took me a whole year of research to put in my application as I needed to thoroughly understand what would give me the best chance at success the first time.
 
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Control what you can control is what I'm saying :) .
I have no problem with profiles getting rejected for the right reasons. They understand most people go via study route is to apply for PR but at the same time they have boxes to tick and they cant just let your profile slide because you sound ''genuine'' in your SOP. You have to take efforts to have documented evidence of what you say.

I only hope they remove this whole subjectivity from this process and ensure good applications are not rejected just because some VO in a particular office are not doing their job properly or view them with a closed mindset of them having temporary visa. That simply frustrates me as there is zero logic with that statement especially for people coming from middle east. These people are high earners with tax free benefits and also live quite a comfortable life. Why would they choose to spend so much money and choose to stay illegally just to ''be in Canada'' People want to move there for the permanent benefits of stability and their children's future and not to stay on cold streets of the country. I don't think there is such desperation :)
 

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I have no problem with profiles getting rejected for the right reasons. They understand most people go via study route is to apply for PR but at the same time they have boxes to tick and they cant just let your profile slide because you sound ''genuine'' in your SOP. You have to take efforts to have documented evidence of what you say.

I only hope they remove this whole subjectivity from this process and ensure good applications are not rejected just because some VO in a particular office are not doing their job properly or view them with a closed mindset of them having temporary visa. That simply frustrates me as there is zero logic with that statement especially for people coming from middle east. These people are high earners with tax free benefits and also live quite a comfortable life. Why would they choose to spend so much money and choose to stay illegally just to ''be in Canada'' People want to move there for the permanent benefits of stability and their children's future and not to stay on cold streets of the country. I don't think there is such desperation :)
I can't remember coming across anyone who was rejected solely for being temporary status, I mean going by GCMS notes? Do you know any such person?
There are always additional reasons attached and temporary status is usually not the first on the list, which is why I think the temporary status thing is usually just an "add-on" reason. Otherwise, no one would ever get approved from UAE who is not Arab, and most people who usually then get approved after fixing other issues, would not get approvals.

What do you think?
 
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I can't remember coming across anyone who was rejected solely for being temporary status, I mean going by GCMS notes? Do you know any such person?
There are always additional reasons attached and temporary status is usually not the first on the list, which is why I think the temporary status thing is usually just an "add-on" reason. Otherwise, no one would ever get approved from UAE who is not Arab, and most people who usually then get approved after fixing other issues, would not get approvals.

What do you think?
From what I've seen, It is usually accompanied with 3 reasons on an average. Home Ties, Temporary Status and Limited Employment Prospects. I have reasons to believe they usually have the same rhetoric binding all together to say you are temporary so considered risk. Going by GCMS notes there are lot of comments about how some middle eastern countries like Saudi are driving localization programs, about how because of someone's temporary status they have given less weightage to professional ties back home, about them not being considered established just because they have temporary status, etc.

Anything to do with the course not matching, insufficient finances, etc is on the applicant and nothing to do with VO.
 
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From what I've seen, It is usually accompanied with 3 reasons on an average. Home Ties, Temporary Status and Limited Employment Prospects. I have reasons to believe they usually have the same rhetoric binding all together to say you are temporary so considered risk. Going by GCMS notes there are lot of comments about how some middle eastern countries like Saudi are driving localization programs, about how because of someone's temporary status they have given less weightage to professional ties back home, about them not being considered established just because they have temporary status, etc.

Anything to do with the course not matching, insufficient finances, etc is on the applicant and nothing to do with VO.
If we were to take this OP's case:
  • if they kept everything else in their application as-is BUT apply from their home country, do you think they would be approved?
  • If they changed their course to a relevant Masters degree at a rated public University, showed more than minimum required funds etc and STILL apply from the UAE, do you think they would be approved?

    Sorry for turning this into a case study :D , just want to determine the weightage of each refusal reasons in determining chances of approval in subsequent application.
 

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If we were to take this OP's case:
  • if they kept everything else in their application as-is BUT apply from their home country, do you think they would be approved?
  • If they changed their course to a relevant Masters degree at a rated public University, showed more than minimum required funds etc and STILL apply from the UAE, do you think they would be approved?

    Sorry for turning this into a case study :D , just want to determine the weightage of each refusal reasons in determining chances of approval in subsequent application.
  • if they kept everything else in their application as-is BUT apply from their home country, do you think they would be approved? - Chances are very thin still. OP's education, current job (which is probably still in entry levels) and studies considered are a total mismatch. OP should spend time to evaluate the course fitting existing profile closely.
  • If they changed their course to a relevant Masters degree at a rated public University, showed more than minimum required funds etc and STILL apply from the UAE, do you think they would be approved? I strongly believe it would still be rejected but with same profile if OP applies from home country chances definitely increase. This is where I bring my subjective behavior theory in place ;-)

Sorry for turning this into a case study :D , just want to determine the weightage of each refusal reasons in determining chances of approval in subsequent application.
Absolutely not. Always appreciate a good healthy discussion as we all can learn from each other and people who see this in future as well.
 

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  • if they kept everything else in their application as-is BUT apply from their home country, do you think they would be approved? - Chances are very thin still. OP's education, current job (which is probably still in entry levels) and studies considered are a total mismatch. OP should spend time to evaluate the course fitting existing profile closely.
  • If they changed their course to a relevant Masters degree at a rated public University, showed more than minimum required funds etc and STILL apply from the UAE, do you think they would be approved? I strongly believe it would still be rejected but with same profile if OP applies from home country chances definitely increase. This is where I bring my subjective behavior theory in place ;-)



Absolutely not. Always appreciate a good healthy discussion as we all can learn from each other and people who see this in future as well.
Thanks :D !
Certainly, option 3 (change profile AND apply from home country) which you alluded to and I intentionally left out would give the BEST chance, but not everyone is able to just go back and apply from home so not a viable option in most cases.

Personally, I believe option 2 gives the better chance of approval. There are people that are temporary residents in UAE who are getting approved everyday - how are they getting through? That tells me the that the status thing is not an automatic reason for rejection. if it were, no one living in the UAE as a temporary resident would ever get approval - unless we are saying those ones just struck it lucky and their applications ended up with nice VOs?
 

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My visa got rejected for no genuine reason I can find out. Applied on 8th May and got rejected on 9th June.
I Bangladeshi immigrant living in UAE past 13 years. Completed my Bachelor's in 2018 from UAE. Showed every document from UAE and from Bangladesh. Current UAE status is a family business partner.

College: Sault college.

Please help me how to overcome this visa rejection. Should I apply again from UAE as it will hard for me to travel to Bangladesh and apply again? Now the situation in Bangladesh is not good due to Coivid-19 and strict lockdown. I had made lots of plans and now everything is spoiled.

Or should I consider UK.

Everything is explained in SOP and it clearly seems they didn't read my SOP. The reason they have point out are already explained in the SOP.


• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your current employment situation.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of
residence.





15/07/2021 got my GCMS notes and the reason was given as follows:

Bangladeshi ctzen. 25yrs old. single.
Seeking SP to study Global Business Management at Sault college.

PA obtained Bach of Business ADmin in 2018 & has been working since graduating as Sales marketing specialist @ trading company. in dubai .

I am not satisfied that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of their stay as a temporary resident, I note that:

-the client is single, mobile, is not well established and is not sufficiently established , his residency is tied to his employment. If he leaves his employment to study abroad, he would need to be sponsored again in the future to return. Weak professional and economic ties to COR and home country.

After considering the applicant's academic and professional history, their financial situation, as well as their planned studies and explanation provided for it, I am not satisfied that the applicant is a genuine student who will pursue studies in Canada. The stated benefits of their intended studies do not seem to warrant the cost and difficulty of undertaking foreign education.

Taking the applicant's current employment situation into consideration, the employment does not demonstrate that the applicant is sufficiently well established that the applicant would leave Canada at the end of a period of authorized stay.

Based on the applicant’s limited employment prospects in their country of residence/citizenship, I have accorded less weight to their ties to their country of residence/citizenship.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.
For the reasons above, I have refused this application.


Can you please tell me how to overcome it and successfully apply it again for a positive result.

Thank you
It's obvious you're just using a study permit to try to enter the Canadian labor market. Not to study.

How are you so surprised that IRCC knows you're not likely to leave after your temporary stay?
 

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Thanks :D !
Certainly, option 3 (change profile AND apply from home country) which you alluded to and I intentionally left out would give the BEST chance, but not everyone is able to just go back and apply from home so not a viable option in most cases.

Personally, I believe option 2 gives the better chance of approval. There are people that are temporary residents in UAE who are getting approved everyday - how are they getting through? That tells me the that the status thing is not an automatic reason for rejection. if it were, no one living in the UAE as a temporary resident would ever get approval - unless we are saying those ones just struck it lucky and their applications ended up with nice VOs?
For the first part, I can tell lot of applicants from Phillipines apply from UAE under SDS without travelling. They even mention this in their SOP that they are working in UAE. They have very high level of approvals.

For second part, offcourse they can't just reject everyone as that would bring them under the radar and would render their job useless. They will mostly approve candidates whose profiles are better than the worse as per their standards. I have seen mostly younger applicants or candidates pursuing PHD level of studies get approved quite easily. There might be other factors.
 
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