Study permit refused !! Please advise.

[altctrdelighted]

I'm sorry, but your SOP is laborious to read. You are trying too hard and stringing together many unnecessary words to express yourself. E.g.:

"I have gone through an elaborate thought process before fixating on Canada as my flight training destination". This exaggerated sentence is not useful. All you have to say is "I chose Canada for my studies because....".

Will do. Thanks ! I wrote like this because I actually have gone through an elaborate though process. I have been trying to fix on my flight school for the last 2-3 years and at different times I was interested in different places. But I will tone it down a notch.

Also, you have shot yourself in the foot with your SOP. What do you mean by the airspace in India is congested??? Too many planes flying, so no more room in the sky? Why then do you want to join an obviously over-saturated industry???

No. It means that the country is seeing unprecedented growth while not being able to keep up infrastructure wise. There are many reasons - traffic has outgrown the airports, unmanaged slot timings, lots of prohibited or restricted areas, lot of airspace specifically for the air force which they don't want to share with civil aviation. The major chunk of delays occur at airports like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore or Hyderabad where the aircrafts are slowed down or put in a hold in air regularly to wait for their turn for permission to approach and land. Most of the major Indian flight schools are in or around big airports. So, that causes delays (one of the reasons) in flying and the duration of the course runs to 2-4 years.
Many things have been done in the last 5-6 years and that's why the industry keeps on showing double digit growth year on year (pre pandemic). I don't want to get into that. However, I see your point ... either I have to go too technical or it sounds vague. The VO is not an expert or an aviation geek like me to understand everything. So, I will remove this point altogether. Thanks !

Also, what you said about the weather - every country experience different weather situation all year round, still pilots fly all year round!

I don't know of many places in the world where the weather goes from -30C to +30C, with regular thunderstorms, high winds, heavy rains, occasional tornado and lightning ... all in the span of a year. This is what I would get to experience in Harv's air. Infact weather is like the USP of the Canadian flight schools. Similarly, in India you have the monsoons (wind, rainfall, thunderstorms), very cold conditions in the north, sunshine throughout the summers, Hence the correlation. Here's a link what Harv's air says about the weather:
https://www.harvsair.com/international-students/what-is-the-weather-like/

You need to do a A LOT of work on your SOP. Remove the exaggerated emotional writings and false claims and keep it VERY simple.

Finally, I think you are missing the whole point behind the "purpose of visit" reason given. It means that the VO is not convinced you are a intending to go to Canada for flight training. I am not a VO and by simply reading your SOP and the amount of inconsistent claims made in there, I am not convinced either.

No false or inconsistent claims were made by me. But I understand now that I must write what the reader would understand. Thank you !

 

[altctrdelighted]

Career change always happens, so you're free to change to what you love to do. But then, my concern is @34, with all the money that you showed that you have, you still don't have a single investment to tie to your home country like marriage, kids, housing, lands, assets etc. It shows that you're not tied to your home country in anyway and free as a bird to remain in Canada.

Is good you have applied for your note, but then why not try to get some assets in your name before you reapply. You can acquire land or any good home ties, get a flight company to give you recommendations that will show you're back.

In summary, just get some home ties to your name. At 34 nd showing almost 120k as POF then to use parents properties as home ties may tell the VO that maybe, the 120k you're showing isn't really yours.

My humble opinion though, might be wrong. All the best

Yes, that's my concern too !!!! Now, I don't just want to get married or buy property that I don't need so that the VO will approve my application. My parents already have humble and comfortable home and I live there. That's enough for me and that's how it works in India to be honest. I would rather go to another country. But first I will try 2 more times at least. I will think about these points. Thanks !!

 

[altctrdelighted]

I have read about why you chose Canada over any other country but seems not convincing to me, but unfortunately I can not provide you with alternative wording. you mentioned about India as fast moving in aviation and is more prospect than Canada, and yet you mentioned that India aviation is highly congested and has very poor quality in terms of training, making it longer to complete by extending from 2-4yrs. It contradicts previous assertion that you will return to work to the same industry having poorly trained members. If I were you, I would refrain from making general conclusion to make my point.

No. It means that the country is seeing unprecedented growth while not being able to keep up infrastructure wise. There are many reasons - traffic has outgrown the airports, unmanaged slot timings, lots of prohibited or restricted areas, lot of airspace specifically for the air force which they don't want to share with civil aviation. The major chunk of delays occur at airports like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore or Hyderabad where the aircrafts are slowed down or put in a hold in air regularly to wait for their turn for permission to approach and land. Most of the major Indian flight schools are in or around big airports. So, that causes delays (one of the reasons) in flying and the duration of the course runs to 2-4 years.
Many things have been done in the last 5-6 years and that's why the industry keeps on showing double digit growth year on year (pre pandemic). I don't want to get into that. However, I see your point ... either I have to go too technical or it sounds vague. The VO is not an expert or an aviation geek like me to understand everything. So, I will remove this point altogether. Thanks !

Probably I should write - the training here in India is not as good as it is in Canada ... i think that it's better than saying that the training is "poor" in India, which it is tbh. Even all of the Indian airlines send their cadet pilots to train abroad. That should tell something. I will return to India because of the more number of opportunities available here compared to Canada. So, in this way I don't diss the training in India and make my point why I would come back. Is that better ?

You mentioned that you will benefit from training in all whether in Canada, as in India compared to Johannesburg and Miami. This in my opinion, is assumption that in general, all Pilots and Aviation expert who were trained in other country not Canada lacks some training and or whether experience,

It's not an assumption. Its a fact. Of course if you train in Miami you lack flying experience in extreme cold weather. But I will try to write in in such a way that I don't come across as demeaning the training there. That wasn't my intention. The training in Miami or J'berg is of very high quality ... just that they don't have many bad weather days. I will rephrase. Thanks !

plus there are many other countries that has 4 seasons, and has vibrant aviation Industry, more than Canada Airspace. Again question of why did you choose Canada has not been addressed properly. Mind you, you have to convince VPO why you are changing your career at mid 30 on top of this.

Having 4 seasons has no correlation with having a vibrant aviation industry, infact it's a hindrance. But having 4 seasons at a place where a good flight school exists is a great deal for a student there as s/he gets to fly/learn in all kinds of conditions. I don't know of many places in the world where the weather goes from -30C to +30C, with regular thunderstorms, high winds, heavy rains, occasional tornado and lightning ... all in the span of a year. This is what I would get to experience in Harv's air. Infact weather is like the USP of the Canadian flight schools. Similarly, in India you have the monsoons (wind, rainfall, thunderstorms), very cold conditions in the north, sunshine throughout the summers, Hence the correlation. Here's a link what Harv's air says about the weather:
https://www.harvsair.com/international-students/what-is-the-weather-like/

Can I add links in the SOP ?

You can't use your parents properties as proof of home ties, due to the age factors. However you can show those in your name as proof of strong economic ties. I don't know how long your Study Plan is going to look like, but Im afraid officer will want to prove previous decision. so making it loong with detailed research may not make much of the difference.

Ok I see. Thanks ! I have learned a lot by discussing with you guys/girls. I will try to simplify and shorten my study plan. I can only do what's in my hands rest's on the VO.

Key issues I see here is

1. changing of career at mid 30 and gap
2. Why Canada, and if you will return back to your Canada

Yeah, that's what I am trying to address. This discussion is helping.
1. This is the truth what I stated about why I am changing my career at mid 30 because I have always been passionate about flying. Otherwise why will I leave a job that pays me 70k usd a year for 6 months of work in a 7 star floating hotel while I sleep my way through the rest 6 months at home !! How can I write this to the VO ?? smh. And there's a gap but I have always been employed in this period.
2. I will work harder on this point.

Once you have the notes, review and re apply. I don't mean to discourage you, but I want you to succeed, All the best

Yes absolutely. Don't worry, I am never discouraged ... this is all so constructive. And you have no idea how thankful I am that you took time out of your busy schedule to read my doubts and respond. Thanks a ton !!!

 

[altctrdelighted]

Thanks a lot to all of you !!! I have some food for thought. I will change a few things in my SOP. If you think of any more concerns then please let me know. All of you have been so helpful.

 

[Simba112]

No. It means that the country is seeing unprecedented growth while not being able to keep up infrastructure wise. There are many reasons - traffic has outgrown the airports, unmanaged slot timings, lots of prohibited or restricted areas, lot of airspace specifically for the air force which they don't want to share with civil aviation. The major chunk of delays occur at airports like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore or Hyderabad where the aircrafts are slowed down or put in a hold in air regularly to wait for their turn for permission to approach and land. Most of the major Indian flight schools are in or around big airports. So, that causes delays (one of the reasons) in flying and the duration of the course runs to 2-4 years.
Many things have been done in the last 5-6 years and that's why the industry keeps on showing double digit growth year on year (pre pandemic). I don't want to get into that. However, I see your point ... either I have to go too technical or it sounds vague. The VO is not an expert or an aviation geek like me to understand everything. So, I will remove this point altogether. Thanks !

Probably I should write - the training here in India is not as good as it is in Canada ... i think that it's better than saying that the training is "poor" in India, which it is tbh. Even all of the Indian airlines send their cadet pilots to train abroad. That should tell something. I will return to India because of the more number of opportunities available here compared to Canada. So, in this way I don't diss the training in India and make my point why I would come back. Is that better ?



It's not an assumption. Its a fact. Of course if you train in Miami you lack flying experience in extreme cold weather. But I will try to write in in such a way that I don't come across as demeaning the training there. That wasn't my intention. The training in Miami or J'berg is of very high quality ... just that they don't have many bad weather days. I will rephrase. Thanks !



Having 4 seasons has no correlation with having a vibrant aviation industry, infact it's a hindrance. But having 4 seasons at a place where a good flight school exists is a great deal for a student there as s/he gets to fly/learn in all kinds of conditions. I don't know of many places in the world where the weather goes from -30C to +30C, with regular thunderstorms, high winds, heavy rains, occasional tornado and lightning ... all in the span of a year. This is what I would get to experience in Harv's air. Infact weather is like the USP of the Canadian flight schools. Similarly, in India you have the monsoons (wind, rainfall, thunderstorms), very cold conditions in the north, sunshine throughout the summers, Hence the correlation. Here's a link what Harv's air says about the weather:
https://www.harvsair.com/international-students/what-is-the-weather-like/

Can I add links in the SOP ?



Ok I see. Thanks ! I have learned a lot by discussing with you guys/girls. I will try to simplify and shorten my study plan. I can only do what's in my hands rest's on the VO.



Yeah, that's what I am trying to address. This discussion is helping.
1. This is the truth what I stated about why I am changing my career at mid 30 because I have always been passionate about flying. Otherwise why will I leave a job that pays me 70k usd a year for 6 months of work in a 7 star floating hotel while I sleep my way through the rest 6 months at home !! How can I write this to the VO ?? smh. And there's a gap but I have always been employed in this period.
2. I will work harder on this point.



Yes absolutely. Don't worry, I am never discouraged ... this is all so constructive. And you have no idea how thankful I am that you took time out of your busy schedule to read my doubts and respond. Thanks a ton !!!

Thanks for your understanding. By the way, I like how you do your research, and in-depth reading. Work on all the inputs with your and reapply. All the best again