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STUDY PERMIT DENIED

kmlogramonte

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Jun 1, 2018
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Ok so heres the story. Please help me i dont know what to do.
My mom and dad is in lebanon. We contacted an immigration lawyer in toronto
I got here in toronto canada and now studying in a college. And it seems like i enjoyed canada. I applied for another course in the same college. And my lawyer applied for extension study permit but now it was denied.
Before she submitted the application she thought i was applying for tourist visa thats why i wasted my 6 months here without working because she told me i cant work.
Now we corrected it and she applied for study permit extension. But now it was denied. And more problem is im now enrolled to my college and my permit is expired. I wanna continue my studies but i dont know what to do. Please help asap.
 
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Helican

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Ok so heres the story. Please help me i dont know what to do.
My mom and dad is in lebanon. We contacted an immigration lawyer in toronto
I got here in toronto canada and now studying in a college. And it seems like i enjoyed canada. I applied for another course in the same college. And my lawyer applied for extension study permit but now it was denied.
Before she submitted the application she thought i was applying for tourist visa thats why i wasted my 6 months here without working because she told me i cant work.
Now we corrected it and she applied for study permit extension. But now it was denied. And more problem is im now enrolled to my college and my permit is expired. I wanna continue my studies but i dont know what to do. Please help asap.
being a lawyer, how could they make such a mistake?
 

Liquid_231

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May 9, 2018
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Ok so heres the story. Please help me i dont know what to do.
My mom and dad is in lebanon. We contacted an immigration lawyer in toronto
I got here in toronto canada and now studying in a college. And it seems like i enjoyed canada. I applied for another course in the same college. And my lawyer applied for extension study permit but now it was denied.
Before she submitted the application she thought i was applying for tourist visa thats why i wasted my 6 months here without working because she told me i cant work.
Now we corrected it and she applied for study permit extension. But now it was denied. And more problem is im now enrolled to my college and my permit is expired. I wanna continue my studies but i dont know what to do. Please help asap.
Hello buddy,

Am so sorry for what you are going through. I think your text wasn't that clear but I will try to answer it how I understood it.

Its very unfortunate that the lawyer made such a mistake, moreover It could even be that she made another mistake whiles submitting the study permit extension.

Did your lawyer apply for the extention before or after your study permit expired or did she apply for it when it was close to expiration? If it was close to or after expiration, then that explains the refusal, if not, there could be many other reasons.

You are never prevented by no one from re-applying. But since your study permit has expired, that makes you illegal to be in Canada. You could be apprehended by the authority if found out.

My suggestion to you is to leave Canada and re-apply for student permit. Now you explain to them what exactly happened, why you overstayed in Canada, why the new course etc. With genuine reasons, they will be left with nothing than grant you the study permit again.

Again, I advise you to make the study permit application on your own in order to avoid any mistakes.

This is my advice to you, though there could be other means that will solve your case without having you to leave Canada. Explore other avenues and chances but note, the more you overstay your study permit, the more you lose your chance of getting permit.

Finally, I ask you to calm down. There's always a way out to every problem.

Cheers!
 
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kmlogramonte

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Jun 1, 2018
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Hello buddy,

Am so sorry for what you are going through. I think your text wasn't that clear but I will try to answer it how I understood it.

Its very unfortunate that the lawyer made such a mistake, moreover It could even be that she made another mistake whiles submitting the study permit extension.

Did your lawyer apply for the extention before or after your study permit expired or did she apply for it when it was close to expiration? If it was close to or after expiration, then that explains the refusal, if not, there could be many other reasons.

You are never prevented by no one from re-applying. But since your study permit has expired, that makes you illegal to be in Canada. You could be apprehended by the authority if found out.

My suggestion to you is to leave Canada and re-apply for student permit. Now you explain to them what exactly happened, why you overstayed in Canada, why the new course etc. With genuine reasons, they will be left with nothing than grant you the study permit again.

Again, I advise you to make the study permit application on your own in order to avoid any mistakes.

This is my advice to you, though there could be other means that will solve your case without having you to leave Canada. Explore other avenues and chances but note, the more you overstay your study permit, the more you lose your chance of getting permit.

Finally, I ask you to calm down. There's always a way out to every problem.

Cheers!
Thankyou so much. I really appreciate the answer. And yes it mustve been that. Im really sad as the lawyer that helped me we trusted her. But i think all she wants is money
 

Helican

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Aug 18, 2017
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08-17-2017
LANDED..........
Sept 2, 2017
I know. We payed her alot
She needs to own her mistake and explain everything to CIC. cant just say that she made a mistake and now you have to suffer. She handled the entire case so how could she forget what she was supposed to do
 

Liquid_231

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May 9, 2018
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Thankyou so much. I really appreciate the answer. And yes it mustve been that. Im really sad as the lawyer that helped me we trusted her. But i think all she wants is money
Cheer up buddy,

All is well.

You can private message me. We can put our heads together as to how to solve your issue, okay.

So cheer up.

Cheers!
 

langnelz

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Jun 1, 2018
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I gained an admission into MA program in a University in Canada. Before the admission, I had already started a PhD program in Thailand, but i want to leave and take up the opportunity to Canada I am currently not in my home country Ghana. I am planning to submit an application for a study permit online but the query is requesting me to state my current country of residence and my status. Now, should I go ahead and tell them I am a student? What will be the likely implications? In fact, I am afraid that I may not get the student permit if they realize especially that I am on a PhD program. Please, I will cherish your advice in this case.

Thank you
 

Liquid_231

Star Member
May 9, 2018
53
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I gained an admission into MA program in a University in Canada. Before the admission, I had already started a PhD program in Thailand, but i want to leave and take up the opportunity to Canada I am currently not in my home country Ghana. I am planning to submit an application for a study permit online but the query is requesting me to state my current country of residence and my status. Now, should I go ahead and tell them I am a student? What will be the likely implications? In fact, I am afraid that I may not get the student permit if they realize especially that I am on a PhD program. Please, I will cherish your advice in this case.

Thank you
Relax buddy, its not a big deal!

Now this is what you have to do if you want to really leave Thailand and school in Canada.

Never lie, with respect to your location and status, because they will eventually find out that you aren't in Ghana and that you are schooling and if they do, you can be penalized severely.

There's no point in being afraid of being refused visa cos you are schooling elsewhere. Its your life and your choice! It matters with the reasons you give to them for applying for student permit in Canada. They can't refuse you if your reasons are genuine, truthful and makes perfect sense.

Now make sure you elaborate on why you chose that school and program in Thailand. Continue by telling them why you must leave for Canada to school; reaons could be the poor nature of their teaching, bad curriculum combination, educational system below your standard, your expectations not being met, a higer and better school in Caanada in terms of ranking, scholarship funds not enough, etc. These are a jist of illustrations am giving. Just make sure they are geniune reasons and truthful according to your case and situation.

You have nothing to worry about. Go for your dream, fight for it and let nothing stop you.

Cheers!
-Liquid-
 
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Tiqua

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Relax buddy, its not a big deal!

Now this is what you have to do if you want to really leave Thailand and school in Canada.

Never lie, with respect to your location and status, because they will eventually find out that you aren't in Ghana and that you are schooling and if they do, you can be penalized severely.

There's no point in being afraid of being refused visa cos you are schooling elsewhere. Its your life and your choice! It matters with the reasons you give to them for applying for student permit in Canada. They can't refuse you if your reasons are genuine, truthful and makes perfect sense.

Now make sure you elaborate on why you chose that school and program in Thailand. Continue by telling them why you must leave for Canada to school; reaons could be the poor nature of their teaching, bad curriculum combination, educational system below your standard, your expectations not being met, a higer and better school in Caanada in terms of ranking, scholarship funds not enough, etc. These are a jist of illustrations am giving. Just make sure they are geniune reasons and truthful according to your case and situation.

You have nothing to worry about. Go for your dream, fight for it and let nothing stop you.

Cheers!
-Liquid-
Your post is so insightful. I recently was denied a visa to go for my PHD in Canada, due to the reason that I may not return home after my studies, and my current immigration status in the US. I recently just finished my masters program in the US and was on a temporary work permit which was to expire soon.
I am saddened by this refusal, I was so eager to start my program, and I even had a scholarship worth 22k CAD from the school.
I am planning to go back to my home country Nigeria and maybe reapply from there, and I hope to be accepted. I am just scared though that they may find something again.
Please what do you think of this? And what can I do to make my application much more convincing.
 

Liquid_231

Star Member
May 9, 2018
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Your post is so insightful. I recently was denied a visa to go for my PHD in Canada, due to the reason that I may not return home after my studies, and my current immigration status in the US. I recently just finished my masters program in the US and was on a temporary work permit which was to expire soon.
I am saddened by this refusal, I was so eager to start my program, and I even had a scholarship worth 22k CAD from the school.
I am planning to go back to my home country Nigeria and maybe reapply from there, and I hope to be accepted. I am just scared though that they may find something again.
Please what do you think of this? And what can I do to make my application much more convincing.
Hello Tiqua,

I am really sorry for receiving news on having your visa denied. By the way, thanks for your comment on my post. :)

In a conversation recently with a close friend of mine who is in South African, I had to point out to him that, it's even shocking to hear visa applicants with secured scholarship for either Master's degree or PhD denied visa. It's actually unheard of!.

My friend is actually Ghanaian and on scholarship for his master's degree and plans to have his PhD in Canada right after graduation. He's a bright student and am so certain he will secure scholarship for his PhD as you did. Unfortunately, visa denials has left so many appliants frustrated but sincerely speaking, this shouldn't have been the case.

This is what I believe, aside proving that you are financially capacitated to take care of yourself with scholarship or whatsoever means, they look for one thing, which is: "How will we know for sure you will leave our country after we allow you to school here?" Take it like this if you would:, I allowed you into my house cos you knocked at my door in the middle of the night. You had no where to sleep, I allowed you in to rest in my room with the intention of seeing you off in the morning, only to wake up the next morning to see you sipping tea with bread and fried egg and watching tv and ohh! you had your legs crossed on my center table as well, ofcourse while taking your unwelcomed breakfast.

So why am I bringing this even up? Every immigration office has this fear of inviting people into their country; what if the guest overstays his welcome, limits, comforts. Such is this for every house owner, it's my house, and I tell you what to do and and not what you want to do. This why even people we think will easily get the visa still get denied. We come to understand it perfectly when we put ourselves in the shoes of a guest, whether or not if you have intentions to overstay after school in Canada and work or become a permanent resident, or leave for your home country right away, we have to be patient for the owner to give us the go ahead. When we give them the assurance that, we have no intentions of overstaying in any means, they feel okay with that far more than showing good academic history or bank statement, or something in this manner.

Frankly speaking, a high proportion of visa rejects fall into this category, not convincing them enough that "you will leave early in the morning as I told you."

Certainly Yes! I would tell you to reapply again but this time do your homework well. I have a brother in University of Waterloo in Canada. He got scholarship for master's degree but got visa refused for his first application but sailed through for his second attempt. He had to make sure his paper work was intact, his reasons, perfect. Don't give up.

If I am to judge your situation with the little info I have received from you, you probably didn't hammer on the fact that you will leave the country after your PhD (elaborate much on this in your "Letter of Explanation" showing ties to your home country if there is), you probably had mentioned in your visa to USA already that you will leave for your home country after master's degree so they're really kinda puzzled the sudden change of mind (these sort of information are easily known to these immigration offices: if so, you have highlight on why you intend to continue with PhD before you get back home.). Again, after master's, they think you should go home, moving from USA to Canada makes them think you have no intentions of going back to your home country. In my weak opinion though I could be wrong, I think applying from Nigeria for the second time should ease chances for you to get the visa, could answer some of their questions, probably. It could also be that your PhD programme has no link to the master's program you took, am not certainly sure if this is so, just saying.

There could be other of reasons why they think you won't leave for your home country. You know this better than I do, so kindly work on this. I've only shared my thoughts and beliefs on what should get you through. Always welcome innovative ideas from others but be open-minded, knowing exactly what will help and weaken your application. Remember, two heads are always better than one. :) I wish you the best in your second application.

Sorry for the long text.

Cheers!
Liquid.
 
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moomoo

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Ok so heres the story. Please help me i dont know what to do.
My mom and dad is in lebanon. We contacted an immigration lawyer in toronto
I got here in toronto canada and now studying in a college. And it seems like i enjoyed canada. I applied for another course in the same college. And my lawyer applied for extension study permit but now it was denied.
Before she submitted the application she thought i was applying for tourist visa thats why i wasted my 6 months here without working because she told me i cant work.
Now we corrected it and she applied for study permit extension. But now it was denied. And more problem is im now enrolled to my college and my permit is expired. I wanna continue my studies but i dont know what to do. Please help asap.
Did the first or the second study permit extension application was filed after your existing study permit expired? If you are out of status at the time of applying for an extension, CIC will reject the application. At that point, you have to apply for restoration of status instead of an extension. You include the same documents and an explanation of events that prevented you from applying for an extension in time (possibly the lawyer screwup). If successful, CIC will issue you a new study permit.