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Studied abroad but never spent 6 months continuously

EFK

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I would like some help.
I completed a 1 yr Masters course in UK. However, my residence visa was still under my UAE company, and I was traveling back home almost every 2-3 months (Christmas, Easter and Summer).

I assume I will still need a Police certificate from UK? Since I technically lived there as a student.. Though my travel history will show that I never stayed in the country more than 3 months at a stretch...

Please advise..
 

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Yes - you will need a police certificate from the UK.
 

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If you NEVER physically lived in UK for more than 6 months in a row, you won't need a PCC from there.
 

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But looking at this, it seems that I will need to get the PCC, because technically, I was living there in a student accommodation rented under my name with a student visa for 8 months... and I just kept going back home for 3 week vacations, right?

"You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18. (For example, if you lived in a country for eight months but left on a two-week vacation, that counts as living there for eight months.)"

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp
 

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True. Because 2 weeks less than 8 months is still greater than 6 months in a row. In your case, you claimed to have traveled back every 2-3 months. That will not add up to 6 months in a row.
 

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EFK said:
But looking at this, it seems that I will need to get the PCC, because technically, I was living there in a student accommodation rented under my name with a student visa for 8 months... and I just kept going back home for 3 week vacations, right?

"You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18. (For example, if you lived in a country for eight months but left on a two-week vacation, that counts as living there for eight months.)"

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp
There are 2 instances of people who got their applications rejected on this forum because although they schooled in a foreign country, they made short trips to and fro regularly and hence didn't provide a PC for their country of study as they claimed not to have lived there continuously for 6 months or more in a row. If I were u I would provide a UK PC, it doesn't take long to obtain.
 

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Asivad Anac said:
If you NEVER physically lived in UK for more than 6 months in a row, you won't need a PCC from there.
This is incorrect and very bad advice. We have numerous examples from this forum where the PCC was required even thought someone did not spend six months continuously in one country (but spent more than six months total there). The UK PCC is definitely required in this case - there is absolutely no question of that.
 

Asivad Anac

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This is incorrect and very bad advice. We have numerous examples from this forum where the PCC was required even thought someone did not spend six months continuously in one country (but spent more than six months total there). The UK PCC is definitely required in this case - there is absolutely no question of that.
CIC clearly states that you need PCC(s) for your country of residence and any country where you have lived for 6 or more months in a row. As the OP hasn't lived in the country for 6 or more months in a row, the advise is in accordance with what CIC state on their site. If we find it convenient to follow CIC's advise on everything except things where it doesn't suit our way of comprehending something, let's take it up with CIC rather than berating someone for providing 'incorrect' advise when all they have done is paraphrase CIC.

As for dan_and's point, I have no idea why CIC gave that example. If someone lived in another country for 8 months and left on a 2 week vacation, that is still more than 6 months by any calculation. Unless said vacation was taken before 6 months passed and CIC is insisting that it will still count as 8 months despite the vacation (and they will STILL count it as more than 6 months in a row). Which contradicts their immediately previous statement of needing a PCC if one has lived in a country for 6 months in a row!

Take a hypothetical example. Someone lives in Country X (not their country of residence) from 20th Oct '13 to 20th Dec '13, takes a vacation from 20th Dec '13 to 31st Dec '13, comes back and lives from 1st Jan '14 to 1st Mar '14, takes a vacation till 30th Jun '14, comes back and stays from 1st Jul '14 to 1st Aug '14, takes a vacation till Oct '14, comes back and stays from 1st Nov '14 to 1st Dec '14 and leaves to never come back to that country. It is 6 months of stay spread over 1.3 years! Would you still argue they need a PCC? If so, where does the counting stop being 'in a row' and move to 'add up all your stay divided over time'?

Having said that, I concur that having an additional PCC(s) does no harm except cost you minor change and some time and effort in acquiring it. Go ahead, get those and submit the same.

All the best!


Who needs a police certificate?

In general, you and all the people in your family who are 18 or older need to get a police certificate. You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18. (For example, if you lived in a country for eight months but left on a two-week vacation, that counts as living there for eight months.)

For the country you currently live in, the police certificate must be issued no more than six months before you apply.

For countries where you have lived for six months or more, the police certificate must be issued after the last time you lived in that country.
 

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EFK, yes, you will need the UK PCC.
 

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Hello Guys,

I am now PPR (October 13, AOR July 24 & ITA July 17th, CEC-Inland). I want to say thanks for your help throughout the process. However, I want to share my experience regarding this thread.

I studied overseas (in Trinidad & Tobago) doing my Masters for 1.5 years. I did not stay in Trinidad continuously for more than months at any give time. So when I saw this thread I became a bit concerned and decided to send a CSE (I had already submitted my documents) with an attached explanation letter and my scanned passport pages to CIC. Trying to indicate that I did not spend six months continuously in Trinidad at any given time. I got a reply from CIC in about 3 days to say that documents were attached to file. On August 24, 2015 CIC send an email for me to upload PCC from Trinidad. They gave me 7 days which was quite short. So I scampered immediately to get fingerprints done and signed by notary public. I also got a bank draft and send off the information to Trinidad and Tobago Police Department. I scanned the documents ( I always scan documents for easy storage long term). When my seven days was almost up luckily I had the scan documents so I attached them for CIC including the fedex tracking number.

When my file reach Trinidad which was around their public holiday weekend, I called them after that and spoke to one of the officers (very kind) he told me he will have it done the next day. I called back the next day to find out if it was finished and he told me in the evening. He asked me why the rush and I told him. At same time I asked him to scan it and email it to me while at the same time send the original hard copy by regular mail (which is what they normally do after processing the request). He did scanned it and send it to me the evening of September 2, 2015 as promised (I haven't received the hard copy by mail as yet but it was sent). I sent a CSE with the scanned copy on the same evening. I got a confirmation email on September 8th that it was attached to my file and DECISION MADE on September 10th. Them waited 33 days for PPR. I was told that it was approved from September 25th but I should await further instructions instructions.

I am happy that they gave me the opportunity to submit the PCC rather refuse my application. There are some well thinking officer in CIC but please note that they did ask for PCC in this case, possibly because I maintained an address in Trinidad while studying there.

Also if you are not sure just send the document you're unsure about and always be nice to them with your emails. They work hard and long hours and deserve some credit which we rarely give to them.

I wish you guys all the best and will be praying for guys success not only with PR but with life in Canada.

Thanks for allowing me to share my experience

All the best.